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      08-03-2017, 03:34 PM   #23
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That was my thread and I did a significant amount of work with forum members outside of what was in that thread. That coding in the videos was definitely not good.

As I have stated a few times in a few threads, the coding solution we ended up with is 90% of what the ECE cars do. I am still running it on my car today but since we realized we could not 100% enable due to hardware limitations it hasn't been distributed to my knowledge.

The shutters are not responsible for the tunnel but from what I can tell are used in scenarios where we have oncoming traffic and the opposite high beam is to be enabled. Since the hardware is missing and hence it won't take the coding the opposite high beam doesn't enable in this situation so really no harm in running this...just not as good as it could be.

FWIW there is no mystery to what the ECE coding is; the coding is all there in the firmware files and can be extrapolated with ESys. The key is you can't run that coding on a US car due to improper hardware. You have to pick the settings you can enable.

Lots of misinformation floating around on this; I hope this clears it up a bit. Officially, coding doesn't work to enable. Unofficially, you can get most of it enabled.
So you are saying that I CAN get this feature working around 90% WITHOUT glaring either oncoming traffic or cars directly ahead of me, even though my '17 US 340i doesn't have the shutters on its LEDS?
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So then the next question is how do we do it?
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The shutters are not responsible for the tunnel
Incorrect. Attached is the GFHB pattern from an ECE F30 LCI for reference.
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The LEDs don't have shutters.
Some actually do have shutters and it so far has been limited to mostly Hella supplied units. They are significantly different from the Walze used in the Bi-Xenon AFS units. The attached image shows a 1x1 Oslon SMD with Microshutters. They appear as a grid across the diode surface.


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Exactly. And if you compare the "hardware" parts numbers between the USA and ECE cars, one can figure out exactly what needs to be changed out...and can then determine if it's worth it to you.
This isn't a guarantee. The F10 LCI LED have different part numbers but there is no hardware difference. US lights have the Microshutters but the operation of them is blocked. CAS will not issue a function release to ZGW as it is blocked by the VIN which includes the COP Region. Instead faults for Implausible Signals are generated.
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So this adds even more confusion. Almaretto kept insisting that the Euro and NA F30 headlights must be different because of different part numbers, but you say the F10 is the same.

The f30 has two different suppliers for the Euro LED headlights, Hella and Magneti Marelli

https://www.schmiedmann.com/en/bmw-f...3-11-7-419-627

https://betaautoparts.com/product/f3...7-oe-original/

Which one of these should I purchase for coding with FLE?
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So this adds even more confusion. Almaretto kept insisting that the Euro and NA F30 headlights must be different because of different part numbers, but you say the F10 is the same.
The part numbers are not the only factor. It is known that the hardware is different.
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My cars anti dazzle works. It may not be the full on system like in Europe, but it works. Never ever have I been flashed by on coming drivers. You can watch the lights dance & move out of the way. Another member contacted me on this forum for a ride along. Seeing is believing. I did a remote hook up with my coder so he could duplicate what he did for others. He said cars with LCA and LKA do not work because of different cameras. When I go to the dealer I tell them do not update my car, so not to lose the feature.
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My cars anti dazzle works. It may not be the full on system like in Europe, but it works. Never ever have I been flashed by on coming drivers. You can watch the lights dance & move out of the way. Another member contacted me on this forum for a ride along. Seeing is believing. I did a remote hook up with my coder so he could duplicate what he did for others. He said cars with LCA and LKA do not work because of different cameras. When I go to the dealer I tell them do not update my car, so not to lose the feature.
And my F010's lamps danced as well, before I coded it back because it is not the same performance as on my F015.
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This is actual for me as well. I've just created topic about this, but after that found this one already existing. So if we have FLE module only, so we only remove 2 values in FA and that's it? But system will not function as fully expected?
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This is actual for me as well. I've just created topic about this, but after that found this one already existing. So if we have FLE module only, so we only remove 2 values in FA and that's it? But system will not function as fully expected?
No. Coding requires VO and FDL coding. And yes, there is a difference between capable lamps and not. For example, and i3 with FLE is not capable.
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No. Coding requires VO and FDL coding. And yes, there is a difference between capable lamps and not. For example, and i3 with FLE is not capable.
But what VO and FDL coding is required in this particular case? I did VO coding to FEM_BODY and KAFAS2 modules, but what else is required? I appreciated if you can provide some details
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But what VO and FDL coding is required in this particular case? I did VO coding to FEM_BODY and KAFAS2 modules, but what else is required? I appreciated if you can provide some details
For which vehicle?
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For which vehicle?
340i 2016

Here is how my list of ECU's look like and setting under FEM_BODY
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340i 2016

Here is how my list of ECU's look like and setting under FEM_BODY
Correct. LCI F3x with FLE will not work. FLE's are what replaced LHM/TMS.
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but what else is required? I appreciated if you can provide some details
A non-India market ECE car to start. US/CAN F30/1 LCI cannot create the Dynamic Shadow (Fashion Mode). The stepper motors will move in Platoon Mode (Active Target Tracking) with no issue. With great frustration, it is that latter portion of Adaptive Driving Beam functionality that is being incorrectly interpreted as "tunneling".

Attached is a Filtered composite I made of an isolated GFHB array with the Dynamic Shadow both Active and Inactive. The section within the Orange boundary is the problem and does not have a solution for this application currently.
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Correct. LCI F3x with FLE will not work. FLE's are what replaced LHM/TMS.
So should I then add back 5AP and 8s4 to FA to restore to original settings? What I don't clearly understand if this specific FA changes changed somehow operation of automatic high beam or no?
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Correct. LCI F3x with FLE will not work. FLE's are what replaced LHM/TMS.
So should I then add back 5AP and 8s4 to FA to restore to original settings? What I don't clearly understand if this specific FA changes changed somehow operation of automatic high beam or no?
Adding 5AP back is the easiest way to restore normal HBA Mode. 8S4 is not an issue and can remain deleted.
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Adding 5AP back is the easiest way to restore normal HBA Mode. 8S4 is not an issue and can remain deleted.

Thanks.
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Still annoyed at yet another cost-cutting move on BMWs part, but since they are illegal in the US anyway, I guess you can't blame them for saving money where they can.
I don't think they are illegal in the US anymore as my step-moms new Volvo XC60 has the ant-dazzle/ tunnel feature. BMW needs to catch up.

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Adding 5AP back is the easiest way to restore normal HBA Mode. 8S4 is not an issue and can remain deleted.
One more question? Does order of this codes in SALaPa section matter? Or I can just add it to the end ?
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One more question? Does order of this codes in SALaPa section matter? Or I can just add it to the end ?
You can add to end and E-sys will alphabetize when you select apply.
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