[harkes]

Originally Posted by Orion4

Wonder why while all the rest of sample read below or right at the Universal Averages, Manganese, Titanium, Magnesium and zinc read high? Are they considered sacrificial elements in engine performance?

You can read an explanation to the different elements on Blackstone webpage.

[AshlandTE87]

I like to change the oil midway through the dealership maintenance schedule....approx. every 5-6k miles. Late last summer when I went to change it again and went to the dealership to buy the BMW (Shell) 5w-30, I was informed they were out as BMW now uses 0W-30. So I asked the guy at the parts counter (who I know) what he thought of the change as he drives an F10 with N55, JB4, FBO. Said he car now eats a quart every 3k miles because it's so thin but BMW went that direction due to normal MPG pressure from the gub.

So I didn't buy and went on in search of Shell Euro 5W-30 which is LL01 but only to find out it is only offered (in the US at least) in 55 gallon drums. Maybe that has changed but I have yet to see any of it in a 5-qt or qt bottle. So I ended up going with Shell Euro 0W-40. The lack of LL01 certification drove me crazy but I convinced myself to move forward with it due to the certification it carried for MB, Porsche, and the two VW specs that are usually also listed on oils that carry the LL01 cert. Soooooooooo, I thought if it meets these same specs for the other mfg's that LL01 oils also meet then I can't be doing any harm to the engine by using it.

After reading the thread which is basically a freshening of a much discussed topic, I am hopeful that the Shell Euro 0W-40 gets LL01 soon just to pacify my brain. The car ran great with the oil but the lingering question persists.....is this oil actually good enough even though it meets these other high performance specs. Ugh!

[Polo08816]

Originally Posted by AshlandTE87

I like to change the oil midway through the dealership maintenance schedule....approx. every 5-6k miles. Late last summer when I went to change it again and went to the dealership to buy the BMW (Shell) 5w-30, I was informed they were out as BMW now uses 0W-30. So I asked the guy at the parts counter (who I know) what he thought of the change as he drives an F10 with N55, JB4, FBO. Said he car now eats a quart every 3k miles because it's so thin but BMW went that direction due to normal MPG pressure from the gub.

So I didn't buy and went on in search of Shell Euro 5W-30 which is LL01 but only to find out it is only offered (in the US at least) in 55 gallon drums. Maybe that has changed but I have yet to see any of it in a 5-qt or qt bottle. So I ended up going with Shell Euro 0W-40. The lack of LL01 certification drove me crazy but I convinced myself to move forward with it due to the certification it carried for MB, Porsche, and the two VW specs that are usually also listed on oils that carry the LL01 cert. Soooooooooo, I thought if it meets these same specs for the other mfg's that LL01 oils also meet then I can't be doing any harm to the engine by using it.

After reading the thread which is basically a freshening of a much discussed topic, I am hopeful that the Shell Euro 0W-40 gets LL01 soon just to pacify my brain. The car ran great with the oil but the lingering question persists.....is this oil actually good enough even though it meets these other high performance specs. Ugh!

Why not just get Castrol Edge 0w-40 which is LL-01 certified and available at Walmart for $26 for 5 quarts?

I change it every 5,000 miles so I'm not worried if it's not the absolute best snake oil available.

[AshlandTE87]

I did consider the Castrol as I've been using that in my E39. I guess it's because I've boughten into the Shell PurePlus gas to oil as having superior lubricating and thermal characteristics. At least that seems to be how it's marketed. Plus, BMW has switched to it (maybe only due to price idk).

[zole2112]

Mobil 1 0W40 since my 540i days

[Schmidty_]

Motul 8100 X-Max 0w40

in both the M235 N55 and E70 X5M S63

[Musashi]

Originally Posted by F30RiK

liqui-moly leichtlauf high tech is LL01, I just checked on my jug.

https://products.liqui-moly.com/leic...h-5w-40-5.html

Yes, but not 0W40 for 0- to -40C climates.

[upsidedownfunnel]

Originally Posted by badbread

Here's mine with over 10k miles on BMW oil:

And this is another after I added a magnetic drain plug. As you can see the oil test reflects the plug being added:

A side effect of using that drain plug is that you won't have an accurate picture of what metals are in your oil. So if it's shedding a lot of metal you might not be aware since it won't show up in the report and your drain plug is catching it.

[F32Fleet]

Originally Posted by AshlandTE87

I like to change the oil midway through the dealership maintenance schedule....approx. every 5-6k miles. Late last summer when I went to change it again and went to the dealership to buy the BMW (Shell) 5w-30, I was informed they were out as BMW now uses 0W-30. So I asked the guy at the parts counter (who I know) what he thought of the change as he drives an F10 with N55, JB4, FBO. Said he car now eats a quart every 3k miles because it's so thin but BMW went that direction due to normal MPG pressure from the gub.

So I didn't buy and went on in search of Shell Euro 5W-30 which is LL01 but only to find out it is only offered (in the US at least) in 55 gallon drums. Maybe that has changed but I have yet to see any of it in a 5-qt or qt bottle. So I ended up going with Shell Euro 0W-40. The lack of LL01 certification drove me crazy but I convinced myself to move forward with it due to the certification it carried for MB, Porsche, and the two VW specs that are usually also listed on oils that carry the LL01 cert. Soooooooooo, I thought if it meets these same specs for the other mfg's that LL01 oils also meet then I can't be doing any harm to the engine by using it.

After reading the thread which is basically a freshening of a much discussed topic, I am hopeful that the Shell Euro 0W-40 gets LL01 soon just to pacify my brain. The car ran great with the oil but the lingering question persists.....is this oil actually good enough even though it meets these other high performance specs. Ugh!

You can always check the PDS of the 0w40 in other countries (eg UK). It appears that for marketing reasons oil companies will sometimes not list all of the OE approvals on a label.


Shell's GTL product (BMW label or otherwise) is top knotch.

[blakep8]

I have to add a quart of oil to my car... I used liqui molly at the oil change and I don't want to order another 5L just for 1 quart. If the weight is the same can I use a different brand

[XxThe_RemedyXx]

Castrol Edge 0W-30 Euro Formula for me. Car loves it.

[FastF30]

Vargas oil recommendation....

http://performance.vargasturbo.com/products/

[cosmicdebris48059]

Originally Posted by blakep8

I have to add a quart of oil to my car... I used liqui molly at the oil change and I don't want to order another 5L just for 1 quart. If the weight is the same can I use a different brand

Technically, it "probably" won't hurt as long as it's a synthetic of the same grade, but I personally wouldn't want to make a habit of it. I always like to have extra in case I need to add some in between oil changes. Have you noticed any difference using the Liqui Moly?

[simplebimmer]

So far been using 0w-40 from wal mart...no issue filter i used oem.

[TSA8151]

I often had to top off my oil between oil changes with warranty oil change. Once I switched to royal purple my car stopped needing top offs between oil changes.

[ceedawg]

Again Amsoil or nothing at all!

[SeanWRT]

Best oil is the one that gets changed often. Thread closed

[AGONXF30]

I use Castrol 0W-40 and I found it to last longer than BMW Shell product from the dealer. Generally my car burns a 1/2 quart to a quart at around 8K miles with the Castrol. With the BMW LL oil I was burning a quart as early as 5K miles. Basically the BMW oil was breaking down sooner. I stick to Castrol and 8K or so oil changes.

[F32Fleet]

Originally Posted by AGONXF30

I use Castrol 0W-40 and I found it to last longer than BMW Shell product from the dealer. Generally my car burns a 1/2 quart to a quart at around 8K miles with the Castrol. With the BMW LL oil I was burning a quart as early as 5K miles. Basically the BMW oil was breaking down sooner. I stick to Castrol and 8K or so oil changes.

That's not what it means but OK.

[AGONXF30]

Originally Posted by F32Fleet

That's not what it means but OK.

What does it mean JR? Enlighten us with your fluid dynamic expertise.

[F32Fleet]

Originally Posted by AGONXF30

What does it mean JR? Enlighten us with your fluid dynamic expertise.

You're applying an oil performance term (IE. last longer) to describe oil consumption. Oil consumption has nothing to do with oil oxidation (i.e. breakdown).

[lo_xyooj]

My maintenance ended 10/1. I just did my oil change over the weekend and put in Liqui-Moly 5w40.