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      03-27-2017, 08:58 PM   #1
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I'm kinda new to the bimmer world and I wanted to noe how can I make 400+ on the stock turbo...Also to does anyone anything about meisterschaft products specifically exhaust and dp. Please help
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You need full bolt ons + tune (or JB4.)

I made 400whp/473wtrq with e40. If you don't have access to e85 or use meth you won't be close to the 400whp mark.

Here is my dyno:
http://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1312822

Meisterschaft makes awesome stuff, specifically their exhaust. Expensive though.
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      03-27-2017, 10:54 PM   #3
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Ok but I've been hearing such great things about bootmod3.. How efficient is that tuning platform?
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Ok but I've been hearing such great things about bootmod3.. How efficient is that tuning platform?
I just made the switch and while I do not have dyno sheets.

BM3 on 91 does feel slower than my E40 JB4. But the power and smoothness on the BM3 is far more superior. With that said, I'm going to look into a E30 BM3 tune.
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What about the diverter valve? Will that make a big difference?
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What about the diverter valve? Will that make a big difference?
It doesn't give hp as such, but a larger spring help keeping closed. Maybe a cyborg can feel the difference..

How much are you prepared to spend? And how safe do you want your complete installation to be?
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I'm trying to get a wicked setup.. I want to get the best bang for my buck
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Those 2 don't go together sorry bro.

Cheapest setup/most power would be catless downpipe, FMIC, chargepipe and tune (BM3, flash tune, or jb4 are your options.) run race gas or e30-40 mixture.
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Those 2 don't go together sorry bro.

Cheapest setup/most power would be catless downpipe, FMIC, chargepipe and tune (BM3, flash tune, or jb4 are your options.) run race gas or e30-40 mixture.
+1 if you want cheap power

Power : Catless downpipe (VRSF) , Phoenix FMIC, JB4 with E30-40 or race gas(Used)

The setup above will be pretty close to 400whp for about $800-1000

-I actually happen to be selling my JB4 , for $400 if interested.
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I'm kinda new to the bimmer world and I wanted to noe how can I make 400+ on the stock turbo...Also to does anyone anything about meisterschaft products specifically exhaust and dp. Please help
JB4 + Downpipe + Intercooler + Intake + Fuel it stage 2 + E85 ( or upgraded fuel)

GThaus make aggressive exhausts that sound really good, keep in mind most of the time there will be a wait on these exhausts.
They use AR design downpipes
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      03-28-2017, 02:00 PM   #11
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Hey Mike are you familiar with the meisterschaft dp?
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You can make close to 400, relatively speaking. 370ish is about where it's going to cut off on the F30 without a Flash or meth or E85 though
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If you want a practical but fast daily driver: Go with a catless DP, K&N drop in air filter, CTS Intercooler, and Chargepipe. Then get a flash, either Frank Smith's(What I run) or BM3.

You can continue to add power through a new fuel pump, which allows for more aggressive tunes, or Meth/Ethanol. If you want to run meth/ethanol, you are going to need to get a unit along with them to control everything.

I would personally stick with the first option as it is the most safe, least to worry about, and most cost effective. After that, you start getting into mixing ethanol buying JB4 or other units to control ethanol or meth. Buying meth, running lines, just not worth it in my opinion for a daily. Now if you are building a pure track car, or pure drag car, then it's a different story.

Also, after you go the FBO/Flash route, before spending any more money I would recommend getting lighter rims, better tires, and a lowering for better handling, or else all that power is useless!
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So if I went stg 1 pure turbo upgrade I'll be in the consistent 4s with the supporting mods?
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So if I went stg 1 pure turbo upgrade I'll be in the consistent 4s with the supporting mods?
Are you PWG or EWG, if you are EWG then Stage1 is almost useless. Also, I would strongly recomend doing supporting mods first and seeing what you want afterwards before dumping $5,000 all at once.

Just to give you context:

DP: $300
CP: $250
FMIC: $400+
AirFilter: $50-100
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Intake(a good one): $300
Flash Tune: $800

That already puts you at $2,000 and you haven't even touched turbos, fuel pumps, ethanol controllers, or meth set ups.

Best way is to do install the above first, and then go part by part afterward because everything else builds off each other.

Can't stress enough the importance of a good tire/suspension set up though or else you are honestly wasting your time and money.
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So if I went stg 1 pure turbo upgrade I'll be in the consistent 4s with the supporting mods?
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So if I went stg 1 pure turbo upgrade I'll be in the consistent 4s with the supporting mods?
Are you PWG or EWG, if you are EWG then Stage1 is almost useless. Also, I would strongly recomend doing supporting mods first and seeing what you want afterwards before dumping $5,000 all at once.

Just to give you context:

DP: $300
CP: $250
FMIC: $400+
AirFilter: $50-100
or
Intake(a good one): $300
Flash Tune: $800

That already puts you at $2,000 and you haven't even touched turbos, fuel pumps, ethanol controllers, or meth set ups.

Best way is to do install the above first, and then go part by part afterward because everything else builds off each other.

Can't stress enough the importance of a good tire/suspension set up though or else you are honestly wasting your time and money.
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Then I think you'll get the biggest Bang for your buck
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400rwhp ftw!!! bcuz its like, a big number and stuff and sounds cooler than 300-something lol
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This guy....
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I would say if you want to go stage 1, just wait and save so you can go all out on stage 2 or 3
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