[jq_f22]

Originally Posted by FastF30

I see he does BM3 and MHD... so which one you running... I'm looking for a tuner... I'm running MHD was going to go Fabian but feel he might set me up for the Autobahn instead of USA roads we race (short and sweet)....

BM3, haha there seems to be tons of solid tuners out there from what I've seen f80paul, wedge etc. I only have experience with Cary though and he's put together a strong tune.

[FastF30]

This is beyond anything I was expecting from a stock turbo.... that's it... I'm going Dorch2 and Upgraded Lpfp , BPM4, full E85 Jordan tune... thanks jq955 for opening my eyes ....

B58 say what... lol...lol...lol... told you all this motor had it in it.. lol... so happy...




Big opening of the wallet also...lol... BPM4 is $1,049... so $5,500+/- including labor etc...

I think a fx-150 E50 Jordan tune will be enough...

[5w20]

Originally Posted by jq955

Yep options, driver weight, fuel level ,and modifications but I doubt the three of us are going to go find a scale to find out, those are base weights, for simply making an estimate over a quick forum discussion it works.
Casper83 who had a similar spec car to mine got corner weight results, 3737 was the result. https://www.2addicts.com/forums/show....php?t=1624116
Now if we had the 1 series hatch over here in the states I would agree, a m135 xdrive is around 3500lbs thats a bigger advantage.
It seems like your car is the lightest overall. Congrats

3800lbs scale verified at the track.

100lbs = 10hp = .1 is a myth.

[FastF30]

Originally Posted by 5w20

3800lbs scale verified at the track.

100lbs = 10hp = .1 is a myth.

It's just some easy math to ballpark I'd say on the low side once you break into 11's.... But I have no doubt this car will be fast enough for what it is once I upgraded the Hpfp... The coilovers and Hpfp upgrade along with the xdrive makes this a perfect city rally car...

P.s VD verifys 100#'s = 10whp for the most part...

[n55david]

we should do a separate database for the 2 3 and 4 series cars. there is a noticeable weight difference between them.

[Erices1 335i]

Agreed Phantom.....Google says the M235i xdrive is 3527lbs, the 335i xdrive is 3710lbs, and lastly the 430i drive is 3638lbs.
Being a drag racer for over 15 years, I can tell you that 100 pounds equals .1 second in the quarter mile. All else being equal, the 235i will be roughly .2 faster than the 335i.

[n55david]

Originally Posted by Erices1 335i

Agreed Phantom.....Google says the M235i xdrive is 3527lbs, the 335i xdrive is 3710lbs, and lastly the 430i drive is 3638lbs.
Being a drag racer for over 15 years, I can tell you that 100 pounds equals .1 second in the quarter mile. All else being equal, the 235i will be roughly .2 faster than the 335i.

yeah 235s are coming in between 3400ish and 3600ish depending on how its optioned etc.. add more for full on fluids etc etc

it should be broken down by series and drive configuration.

so 6 categories, 2 series xdrive and rwd, etc etc. then sub categories for turbo etc.

thinking I may put it together.

[n55david]

yeah, after this week I'll put together a new list for everyone and update it weekly. I'll start a new thread for people to post times with mods and proof of time (dragy, time slips etc)

[jq_f22]

Originally Posted by Erices1 335i

Agreed Phantom.....Google says the M235i xdrive is 3527lbs, the 335i xdrive is 3710lbs, and lastly the 430i drive is 3638lbs.
Being a drag racer for over 15 years, I can tell you that 100 pounds equals .1 second in the quarter mile. All else being equal, the 235i will be roughly .2 faster than the 335i.

Ericies1 335 not sure where you got that number from sounds like what a zf8 rwd m235 would weigh. You must have missed up above where I posted corner weights for a m235 xdrive 3737 was the result with 3/4 tank of fuel and no driver. 5w20 posted his scale weight at the strip of 3800lbs(not sure on fuel tank or if he was inside of the car) The point being that is a 63lbs difference so not even a tenth at the track. The problem I see here is that excuses are being made for the 3 and 4 series cars when they have just as much potential to run a 11 second time as a 2 series. Look below for two examples first a rwd 335 ewg and second a rwd 435 like 5w20's car(both stock fuel system cars). Guys try launching in 2nd it helps ton with wheelspin and I use the technique on my awd car from time to time.

[Munchi435i]

Originally Posted by jq955

Ericies1 335 not sure where you got that number from sounds like what a zf8 rwd m235 would weigh. You must have missed up above where I posted corner weights for a m235 xdrive 3737 was the result with 3/4 tank of fuel and no driver. 5w20 posted his scale weight at the strip of 3800lbs(not sure on fuel tank or if he was inside of the car) The point being that is a 63lbs difference so not even a tenth at the track. The problem I see here is that excuses are being made for the 3 and 4 series cars when they have just as much potential to run a 11 second time as a 2 series. Look below for two examples first a rwd 335 ewg and second a rwd 435 like 5w20's car(both stock fuel system cars). Guys try launching in 2nd it helps ton with wheelspin and I use the technique on my awd car from time to time.

Would love to see some logs of your current setup before you upgrade HPFP

[n55david]

Originally Posted by jq955

Ericies1 335 not sure where you got that number from sounds like what a zf8 rwd m235 would weigh. You must have missed up above where I posted corner weights for a m235 xdrive 3737 was the result with 3/4 tank of fuel and no driver. 5w20 posted his scale weight at the strip of 3800lbs(not sure on fuel tank or if he was inside of the car) The point being that is a 63lbs difference so not even a tenth at the track. The problem I see here is that excuses are being made for the 3 and 4 series cars when they have just as much potential to run a 11 second time as a 2 series. Look below for two examples first a rwd 335 ewg and second a rwd 435 like 5w20's car(both stock fuel system cars). Guys try launching in 2nd it helps ton with wheelspin and I use the technique on my awd car from time to time.

dude, there is absolutely a weight difference between the cars and its about 100lbs give or take specific options +/- xdrive

[5w20]

Originally Posted by jq955

Ericies1 335 not sure where you got that number from sounds like what a zf8 rwd m235 would weigh. You must have missed up above where I posted corner weights for a m235 xdrive 3737 was the result with 3/4 tank of fuel and no driver. 5w20 posted his scale weight at the strip of 3800lbs(not sure on fuel tank or if he was inside of the car) The point being that is a 63lbs difference so not even a tenth at the track. The problem I see here is that excuses are being made for the 3 and 4 series cars when they have just as much potential to run a 11 second time as a 2 series. Look below for two examples first a rwd 335 ewg and second a rwd 435 like 5w20's car(both stock fuel system cars). Guys try launching in 2nd it helps ton with wheelspin and I use the technique on my awd car from time to time.

2nd gear is no good when comparing it to a car with a proper tire setup. You will not be able to cut the 1.6 60’ or low 1.7. All the 11 second runs are AWD on street tires or RWD cars with a sticky tire of some sort. Advantage awd on launch but they do suffer a little on ET speed because of their additional weight. A RWD setup can easily make that up ground by installing a drag setup.

Freakf30’s car had meth and drag pack setup with some weight removed. I don’t have stock fueling, I have a Dorch stg1 pump on an OTS tune. Tbh, meth is supplemental fueling, so you can’t count that as stock fueling.

Lastly I nobody is making excuses lol, simply stating facts. You can’t compare a 2 series variant to a 3/4 series. Take a second and go look at all the b58 and n55 records and look at what models are setting them lol. I do have a rear drag setup and I should be able to get into the 1.7 60’ range or so and knock off about 3 tenths off my time next time out if nothing breaks.

[n55david]

Originally Posted by 5w20

2nd gear is no good when comparing it to a car with a proper tire setup. You will not be able to cut the 1.6 60’ or low 1.7. All the 11 second runs are AWD on street tires or RWD cars with a sticky tire of some sort. Advantage awd on launch but they do suffer a little on ET speed because of their additional weight. A RWD setup can easily make that up ground by installing a drag setup.

Freakf30’s car had meth and drag pack setup with some weight removed. I don’t have stock fueling, I have a Dorch stg1 pump on an OTS tune. Tbh, meth is supplemental fueling, so you can’t count that as stock fueling.

Lastly I nobody is making excuses lol, simply stating facts. You can’t compare a 2 series variant to a 3/4 series. Take a second and go look at all the b58 and n55 records and look at what models are setting them lol. I do have a rear drag setup and I should be able to get into the 1.7 60’ range or so and knock off about 3 tenths off my time next time out if nothing breaks.

...this!

[jq_f22]

Originally Posted by Phantom10R

dude, there is absolutely a weight difference between the cars and its about 100lbs give or take specific options +/- xdrive

Alright, ignore everything mentioned above lol, I did not say there is no weight difference just that it's much more minimal in the case of 2 series xdrive and 3/4 series rwd than people think.

[jq_f22]

Originally Posted by 5w20

2nd gear is no good when comparing it to a car with a proper tire setup. You will not be able to cut the 1.6 60’ or low 1.7. All the 11 second runs are AWD on street tires or RWD cars with a sticky tire of some sort. Advantage awd on launch but they do suffer a little on ET speed because of their additional weight. A RWD setup can easily make that up ground by installing a drag setup.

Freakf30’s car had meth and drag pack setup with some weight removed. I don’t have stock fueling, I have a Dorch stg1 pump on an OTS tune. Tbh, meth is supplemental fueling, so you can’t count that as stock fueling.

Lastly I nobody is making excuses lol, simply stating facts. You can’t compare a 2 series variant to a 3/4 series. Take a second and go look at all the b58 and n55 records and look at what models are setting them lol. I do have a rear drag setup and I should be able to get into the 1.7 60’ range or so and knock off about 3 tenths off my time next time out if nothing breaks.

2nd gear is a good technique, I cut my best 1.6 60 ft by using it, why don't you try it out first lol. Many rwd cars I personally know have had good results.
He(freakf30) clearly states that the car was stock fuel system and no meth at the time of the run....

Alright, buddy if you already have an upgraded pump even less reason to make excuses, go match my time

[n55david]

Originally Posted by jq955

Alright, ignore everything mentioned above lol, I did not say there is no weight difference just that it's much more minimal in the case of 2 series xdrive and 3/4 series rwd than people think.

actually yeah I can get behind that. its that that far off in that case again depending on options

[jq_f22]

Originally Posted by Phantom10R

...this!

Not sure why you're on 5w20's boat your car is one good launch from getting an 11.5 or 11.6......

[jq_f22]

Lets get this thread back on track guys. Any chassis, even x3, x5 guys should be allowed to post their times Pumped to see what Phantom10R's x3 does once it is turned up.

[FastF30]

jq955 got corner weights of

M235i xdrive= 3737#'s


Car and driver actually weigh the car also...

M235i xdrive_ 3653#'s
335i xdrive= 3739#'s....... 3605 rwd............


Freaking close enough considering fuel levels etc... I weigh 150 and I'll take a dump right before I log.... So in other words "CLOSE ENOUGH"

Point is can't believe jq955 is doing this on a stock fuel system... This is GReat!

[n55david]

Originally Posted by jq955

Lets get this thread back on track guys. Any chassis, even x3, x5 guys should be allowed to post their times Pumped to see what Phantom10R's x3 does once it is turned up.

there's an x3 guy with a ps2 that would wreck us all lol

I don't think I'm gonna see much better 60' btw.. I need more power, I'm only averaging low 116 on my good runs

[jq_f22]

Originally Posted by Phantom10R

there's an x3 guy with a ps2 that would wreck us all lol

I don't think I'm gonna see much better 60' btw.. I need more power, I'm only averaging low 116 on my good runs

Haha I bet, are you talking about the one that dynoed at max psi?

Three questions, 60ft? Tune? Upgraded hpfp? Your city is 932ft above sea that doesn't help.

[FastF30]

jq955 You don't have XHP trans flash do you? If not then an additional wow is added to your time...