[e92Rithy]

Hey guys so I have an e92 N54 335i. I’m planning to sell the car and was wondering if a 435 was a better car in terms of reliability and daily driving. Has anyone had years of experience with the 435? If so, how has the car treated you and what major things have you had to do? On the other hand, I was also considering maybe an IS350 instead. I know the two are completely different, but what do you guys think? Thank you for reading this (for those who did lol).

[ChuckP49]

I've got a 2016 435iXdrive with 55,000 miles. Had an O2 sensor give me a CEL, was replaced under warranty by dealer. Car has been driven across the US 3 times, around race tracks (at approx 60%), and many canyons and mountain passes.

[BEM-S4]

If reliable is your chief concern, get a Stinger with a 10-year 100k mile powertrain warranty.

[BowzerF30]

The B58 has really good reliability ratings, N55 has done well over the years main issue is the OFHG failure.

I would look for a 440i right now.. You can find some with decent mileage at a reasonable price point. Plus if you choose to mod you have an engine developed by BMW as a refinement of the n54/n55.

Just my 2 cents..

[khoa@x-ph.com]

You currently have an N54. Does it give you lots of issues? Newer BMWs are built better and will last longer. You mentioned Lexus it's not a bad choice either. But driving experience is not the same as BMW though.

[whatevs]

Not owning a 6 Cyclinder ...I cannot speak about reliability, but having owned a lexus before, I can definitely say that the driving experience of BMW cannot be matched by a Lexus.

[328iX]

I own a BMW and new Lexus, The Lexus is definitely a bit more industrial feeling, things are just a little more rugged and built for reliability vs the best technology & driving experience.

You can't go wrong with either, the most reliable brand vs. and amazing driving experience that is still somewhat reliable.

Lexus also holds their resale much much much better

[1QuikWS6]

My car is 20115 F32 435ix N55 with 38k miles

Never a problem, no warranty work done, no maintenance other than tires, pads/rotors, wiper blades and oil changes

Only big $$ spent on this car was on go faster & appearance mods

Knock on wood

[jh_f30]

If you're looking primarily at reliability and daily driving comfort, Lexus is hard to beat.

F3x will offer more refinement, comfort and tech over E9x, but probably not on the level of Lexus's. The BMW will be more focused on sporty dynamics and driving engagement, but most agree that the E9x was better in those areas than the F3x. You'll lose hydraulic steering, but gain some tech/comfort. Out of the box, F3x is set up a little "softer" than the E9x.

In stock form, N55 seems to be more reliable than the N54, with some trade offs in terms of max power potential with mods.

The question is what is most important to you? Reliability and daily driving comfort or driving dynamics and feel? Also, IS is a sedan, 4-series is a coupe (unless you go GC). Do you need 4 doors? 435i seems like the next logical step from an E92, but do you have any desire for a different driving experience from a front engine, RWD sporty coupe? Maybe something smaller/lighter like an M235i/M240i? 2-seat roadster like a Z4?

All that said, have you spent any significant amount of time driving either the IS350 or the 435i? Maybe try finding them on Turo or something and do extended test drives.

[_bdiddyb_]

I own both a 2014 IS350 fsport and a 2013 335i sportsline. The BMW had turbo replaced first 700 miles in, 2nd year constant brake squeal, 2nd year boost solenoid failure, 3rd year oil filter housing leak, 3rd year radiator return hose busted, 4th year car stalled due to empty fuel tank (gauge showed 1/4 tank full) - replaced lpfp, 5th year boost solenoid failed again. The lexus? - zero issue. I still prefer to drive the bmw though.

[rlmesq]

You have a great car. I leased one and sometimes miss the smaller size and steering feel.

In the six years since I returned it, I leased a 435i and a 440i. The latest car was ordered from the factory for me, and it has almost every available option, including MPPSK. Since the latest gen "pignose" G22 won't be available for months, I decided to buy the 440i as a CPO at lease end and hope BMW will come to its senses and redesign the grills on the G22 by the time the LCI rolls around.

The B58 definitely feels more refined than the N54 and the MPPSK is a kick in the butt, but you can get Bootmod3 and an exhaust for your car for a lot less than buying a newera car. I hate the way the nav screen on the F32 looks like somebody stuck an iPad into the dash; they've improved the design on the G2x, but the integration into the dash on the G9x is still a more elegant solution. The newer cars have better electronics, but many features are easily retrofitted.

If you're looking at a newer car, I would choose a 440i, which is the LCI, over a 435i, but there is a lot to be said in favor of keeping the E92 as well.

[e92Rithy]

Originally Posted by jh_f30

If you're looking primarily at reliability and daily driving comfort, Lexus is hard to beat.

F3x will offer more refinement, comfort and tech over E9x, but probably not on the level of Lexus's. The BMW will be more focused on sporty dynamics and driving engagement, but most agree that the E9x was better in those areas than the F3x. You'll lose hydraulic steering, but gain some tech/comfort. Out of the box, F3x is set up a little "softer" than the E9x.

In stock form, N55 seems to be more reliable than the N54, with some trade offs in terms of max power potential with mods.

The question is what is most important to you? Reliability and daily driving comfort or driving dynamics and feel? Also, IS is a sedan, 4-series is a coupe (unless you go GC). Do you need 4 doors? 435i seems like the next logical step from an E92, but do you have any desire for a different driving experience from a front engine, RWD sporty coupe? Maybe something smaller/lighter like an M235i/M240i? 2-seat roadster like a Z4?

All that said, have you spent any significant amount of time driving either the IS350 or the 435i? Maybe try finding them on Turo or something and do extended test drives.

Originally Posted by jh_f30

If you're looking primarily at reliability and daily driving comfort, Lexus is hard to beat.

F3x will offer more refinement, comfort and tech over E9x, but probably not on the level of Lexus's. The BMW will be more focused on sporty dynamics and driving engagement, but most agree that the E9x was better in those areas than the F3x. You'll lose hydraulic steering, but gain some tech/comfort. Out of the box, F3x is set up a little "softer" than the E9x.

In stock form, N55 seems to be more reliable than the N54, with some trade offs in terms of max power potential with mods.

The question is what is most important to you? Reliability and daily driving comfort or driving dynamics and feel? Also, IS is a sedan, 4-series is a coupe (unless you go GC). Do you need 4 doors? 435i seems like the next logical step from an E92, but do you have any desire for a different driving experience from a front engine, RWD sporty coupe? Maybe something smaller/lighter like an M235i/M240i? 2-seat roadster like a Z4?

All that said, have you spent any significant amount of time driving either the IS350 or the 435i? Maybe try finding them on Turo or something and do extended test drives.

Thank you for the reply. I could honestly consider an M235i. I do not need the space as much however with a 435 but it could be useful.

[e92Rithy]

Hey guys, I don't know if you guys get the notification lol. But, thank you so much for your considerations. After looking for a while, what would you guys think about an Infiniti Q50s. A friend of mind mentioned it has the reliability and also some type of speed with a 3 L bi-turbo but lacks the technology. I'm still young so I still go to school and work which is why I need the reliability but also some type of power for when I want it lol.

[F32Fleet]

2015 435i, 58k miles, MPPK

Mechanically the N55 has been fine.

VCG and OFHG were replaced. Typical BMW.

[AK415]

Originally Posted by e92Rithy

Hey guys, I don't know if you guys get the notification lol. But, thank you so much for your considerations. After looking for a while, what would you guys think about an Infiniti Q50s. A friend of mind mentioned it has the reliability and also some type of speed with a 3 L bi-turbo but lacks the technology. I'm still young so I still go to school and work which is why I need the reliability but also some type of power for when I want it lol.

I have a 2015 Q50 w/ 3.7 V6 and its steering sucks pretty bad. It also has a 720 degree lock-to-lock, the whole steering experience is just artificial. Engine wise it's solid and rev happy, but the transmission is slow. I also have a 99 GS400, it has better steering feel and shifts at the same rate as the Q50's 7-speed.

I own the 435i for 2 years now and it has been trouble free for the past 10K miles since I own it, 32K miles on the clock now. Q50 had multiple dealer visits since we bought it new, mostly due to the electronics such as infotainment and window motors...

If you keep up the maintenance and don't constantly beat the car, a 435i is a reliable option.

[jh_f30]

Originally Posted by AK415

I have a 2015 Q50 w/ 3.7 V6 and its steering sucks pretty bad. It also has a 720 degree lock-to-lock, the whole steering experience is just artificial. Engine wise it's solid and rev happy, but the transmission is slow. I also have a 99 GS400, it has better steering feel and shifts at the same rate as the Q50's 7-speed.

I own the 435i for 2 years now and it has been trouble free for the past 10K miles since I own it, 32K miles on the clock now. Q50 had multiple dealer visits since we bought it new, mostly due to the electronics such as infotainment and window motors...

If you keep up the maintenance and don't constantly beat the car, a 435i is a reliable option.

Is the Infiniti steer-by-wire? All electronic with no physical connection to the rack? I remember hearing about a car having that, don't remember if it was Infiniti or not.

[AK415]

Originally Posted by jh_f30

Is the Infiniti steer-by-wire? All electronic with no physical connection to the rack? I remember hearing about a car having that, don't remember if it was Infiniti or not.

Something like that. They call it drive-by-wire. There is physical connection to the rack but it is more of an emergency safety measure when the drive-by-wire doesn't work. They updated the software some time in 2017/18 to have more feedback from the road, but it is still feel bad.

I had the steering wheel "crooked" at 45 degrees before, but the computer correct itself after a few turns...

[e92Rithy]

Originally Posted by AK415

I have a 2015 Q50 w/ 3.7 V6 and its steering sucks pretty bad. It also has a 720 degree lock-to-lock, the whole steering experience is just artificial. Engine wise it's solid and rev happy, but the transmission is slow. I also have a 99 GS400, it has better steering feel and shifts at the same rate as the Q50's 7-speed.

I own the 435i for 2 years now and it has been trouble free for the past 10K miles since I own it, 32K miles on the clock now. Q50 had multiple dealer visits since we bought it new, mostly due to the electronics such as infotainment and window motors...

If you keep up the maintenance and don't constantly beat the car, a 435i is a reliable option.

Originally Posted by AK415

I have a 2015 Q50 w/ 3.7 V6 and its steering sucks pretty bad. It also has a 720 degree lock-to-lock, the whole steering experience is just artificial. Engine wise it's solid and rev happy, but the transmission is slow. I also have a 99 GS400, it has better steering feel and shifts at the same rate as the Q50's 7-speed.

I own the 435i for 2 years now and it has been trouble free for the past 10K miles since I own it, 32K miles on the clock now. Q50 had multiple dealer visits since we bought it new, mostly due to the electronics such as infotainment and window motors...

If you keep up the maintenance and don't constantly beat the car, a 435i is a reliable option.

So would you consider the Q50 as a no go? Also, most of the used 435s I have seen are already around 50k miles so I don't know how well they are around that many miles already.

[AK415]

Originally Posted by e92Rithy

So would you consider the Q50 as a no go? Also, most of the used 435s I have seen are already around 50k miles so I don't know how well they are around that many miles already.

I like the VQ37HR and VR30DDTT, rev happy and nice power delivery, but Nissan pair them with the wrong transmission. On top of it, I found the steering feel and infotainment being inferior to F32. Another thing I found annoying is Active Trace Control - a system that applies brakes on the rear to "maintain" stability when you turn a corner. It is in default driving modes (normal, sport, and eco) but you can create a personal profile to turn it off, the downside is that you have to switch the driving profile every time you start the car. Additionally, the rear brake pads wear faster than the front, this is true across all Infiniti's according to my SA.

But give it a test drive to see how you like it. Its birdview 360 degree camera keeps my fiance away from any parking "incident" in the past 5 years. The hybrid model (had it for a week as a loaner) is one of the very few hybrids that doesn't use CVT, and its acceleration is pretty sweet. The driving assistance can provide a somewhat hands-free experience on the freeway, and less annoying that BMW's lane assist.

If cargo space is a consideration, Q50 has a similar trunk space as F32. But Q60's trunk is significantly smaller.

[jh_f30]

Originally Posted by e92Rithy

So would you consider the Q50 as a no go? Also, most of the used 435s I have seen are already around 50k miles so I don't know how well they are around that many miles already.

FWIW, I bought my 335 with a little over 50k miles on the clock. 3.5 years later, I'm at 133k+ miles, tuned since about 80k. Only time it's been in the shop for something unexpected was that I recently had to have the valvetronic motor and eccentric shaft replaced. Aside from that, it's been mostly just regular maintenance (fluids & filters) and a few minor things I've fixed myself...namely gaskets and the serpentine belt, tensioner and pulley.

[floridaorange]

Originally Posted by _bdiddyb_

I own both a 2014 IS350 fsport and a 2013 335i sportsline. The BMW had turbo replaced first 700 miles in, 2nd year constant brake squeal, 2nd year boost solenoid failure, 3rd year oil filter housing leak, 3rd year radiator return hose busted, 4th year car stalled due to empty fuel tank (gauge showed 1/4 tank full) - replaced lpfp, 5th year boost solenoid failed again. The lexus? - zero issue. I still prefer to drive the bmw though.

Exactly

No soul in the Lexus, but if you want a hands off car you can't really break Toyota, I mean Lexus, is the way to go.

I think right now in particular a lot of car buyers are looking for reliability and low cost of ownership due to the economy and foreseeable future. Hell my good friend in San Diego who has only driven German, m3, 540i manual, VW, X5M now drives a 4Runner.

[BEM-S4]

Nissan's are reliable now? When did that happen? Everything I hear about them is absolute garbage build quality.