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Quick question JustChris - how long does a full charge take at home when using a proper charger, but with a single phase supply?
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I also used to ask/think this but actually you don't want to be that speedy at home. SC ran a heck of a lot into t he batteries and really the ideal is a gentle charge at home. It's an overnight thing probably 8-10 hrs. Best in mind I don't actually know yet I'm getting an Anderson A2 for looks and ability to push solar through it and that will be 7kw home charging. Absolutely no need to get 3 phase installed.etc etc One other note on the 3pin granny charger. Don't discount that at all. Imagine driving to that cottage holiday. Once your there even if you can't access any other facilities people say you'd add around 100 miles range overnight. Assuming you'd arrive with some, I doubt I do loads of touring once at our actual destination and many users actually just use the granny charger long term home solution. Go figure
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Macan S very low spec £66k £10k in £850 month 12,000 mpa Or but it and have a heavy 3L petrol SUV in 4 years time 2026 TM3LR zero options and intentionally utility white 9+47 £520 12,000 mpa I could wait a year and by then our work probably would have a salary sacrifice in place. It I've already waited a year asking! Then factor in fuel for 1 month at my 12000 mpa sinples:- M3LR 78kwh battery circa £0.21 kWh = 340 miles say 3 fills = 1000 miles = 3 x 0.21 x 78 = £49! Macan S likely 2mpg fuel Maybe 2.5 tanks for 1000 miles? Estimation about £80 fill? = £200 In those figures I'm being a bit generous to the Macan and harsh in the Tesla. Most full up overnight at 5p or 7p rates and it makes no account for any of the free chargers at work and various sites I can access. So not apples to apples but I never really needed the size and have stared to see the car as a tool I'm afraid more than a reward in the past. Bloody economics and Terrys FIRE movement 😂
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Your point about what happens when you go on holiday is absolutely key for me. A friend with an iPace went from Warwickshire to Dartmoor for a long weekend recently, and said the fast charging on the way down was great. The issue was the charge rate at the hotel they were staying at, and meant the first day there they didn't go anywhere. I think the Teslas would deal with this much better.
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I would be interested to know about the Model 3's headlights. Do they have similar 'dancing' beams like the ones (usually optional) on the current crop of BMWs, or is it a simpler system like you find on Mini, which have I think 4 zones which just switch on and off?
I also wondered about the glass roof in the Model 3 which have no covers for shade. Anyone have any experience of driving one in the middle of summer? I'm assuming that given they are sold in much warmer climes, that shouldn't be too much of an issue in the UK. |
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The cars onboard charger is the limiting factor on three phase AC, Model 3 and i4 are 11kw max, still 50% faster than 7.4kw single phase but not 3 times as fast unfortunately.
Latest Tesla's have Samsung PixCell matrix LED lights but as far as I know they still operate as standard lights as the software has not been updated yet for them to fully function. I believe they have 100 zones. Never had an issue with the glass roof, in North Scotland we're lucky to see much sun. As you say they are standard in USA so they must be comfortable enough at higher temperatures than we find normally in the UK. Last edited by saltyamigo; 01-19-2022 at 08:24 AM.. |
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And no complaints from my mate with the glass, although it's very tinted. I've been it in the car in summer and not noticed it being glaring. |
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We had this issue when we went to Northern Ireland with my mate and their free chargers wouldn't work with his car. Obviously this caused an issue, so he was having to charge on a 3 pin every night. Tbh it was a nightmare, and I wouldn't say a BEV is good for touring. |
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As you can "fill up" whenever the car is at home (or work, if you have chargers there to use), you soon get out of the "once a week" mentality & top up as needed. I only do long journeys every few weeks, and my daily commute is 20 miles, so I keep the battery operating between 40-80% and charge 2-3x / week depending on journeys. If I know I have a long run due on Monday, then I will charge to 80% Sat, use car as normal Sun, then charge to 100% Sun night. This fits nicely with my cheap rate window on Octopus, so nearly all my charging is at 5p/kWh. Against JustChris figures for 1000 miles charging - that's £11.70 at the cheap EV rate! Every 6 months or so I run the battery down to <10% & leave it like that for 24+ hours (needs a little planning when I know I won't use it), then charge to 100%. This is advised by Tesla for calibrating the Battery Management System, and allows for correction of range discrepancies. |
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I have the Model 3 SR+ and each hour fills the battery with 15% charge at 7kW. I put 4 hours in overnight on Octopus Go, which gives me 60% (80-100 miles in Winter, 100-120 in Summer) and costs me £1.50.
As for the roof,. no issues with it being hot or blinding at all. It's heavily tinted and actually very difficult to see into (but fine to see out of). As for the question regarding the consideration of a Tesla if they opened their SC network up, I'd definitely look at other brands but, unfortunately, don't imagine there's anything out there that not only has the tech, but drives as well either. Don't just think Tesla's are dragsters - it's a great car to drive.
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They do get hot though, 50degress in summer isn't uncommon, but thats what air-con is for......and no running the air-con isn't going to leave you stranded . |
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All free or is it just there's no tariff set up?
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That's a hard lol and the irony of it. People rushing 'out' (more miles and more traffic) to charge a car fully for free to go home and cut the grass with an electric mower and extension lead in the car Bloody brilliant 🤩
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Not sure if it's a repeat but just stumbled across a programme called 'Fifth Gear Recharged' over on Quest - some interesting stuff and IMO worth a watch if you haven't seen it!
ETA: At the end they showed a Neo (new EV from China) and, rather than messing around with recharging, they simply changed the battery. But the impressive bit was it was all accomplished in under 5 minutes without the driver even needing to get out of the car - so about the same time as filling-up an ICE vehicle but with less effort! Last edited by JNW1; 01-22-2022 at 01:11 PM.. |
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There are a few others still free, but expect charges soon. |
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Glasgow City Council have removed all charges in the interim. I reckon they've priced too cheaply and a large increase is coming. All it means is that so far, my 3,693 miles of EV motoring have cost me £0.00 in charging costs. |
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