Dyno Results are here!!!

Dheeth-G80 · 12-07-2018, 05:20 PM

It's a 2013 BMW 335i with Bootmod3 Stage 2 OTS Flash Tune

List of mods:
1. VRSF Catless Downpipe
2. VRSF FMIC HD 5"
3. VRSF Chargepipe
4. NGK Li Spark Plugs
5. Afe Magnum Pro Dry S Drop in Air filter
6. MPE

Here is the picture -

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TK335iMSPT · 12-07-2018, 05:26 PM

What are the numbers? I don't see a picture if there is one.

Dheeth-G80 · 12-07-2018, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by TK335iMSPT

What are the numbers? I don't see a picture if there is one.

Done, uploaded

TK335iMSPT · 12-07-2018, 05:33 PM

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What are the numbers? I don't see a picture if there is one.

Done, uploaded

Are you Xdrive? I've been looking for numbers like this. Did you do a baseline as well?

Dheeth-G80 · 12-07-2018, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by TK335iMSPT

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Originally Posted by Dheeth-F30

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Originally Posted by TK335iMSPT

What are the numbers? I don't see a picture if there is one.

Done, uploaded

Are you Xdrive? I've been looking for numbers like this. Did you do a baseline as well?

No I'm RWD and unfortunately I didn't do baseline because I have had the parts and tune on the car for a long while but couldn't find any local Dyno until N26Ghost gave me a reference

jh_f30 · 12-07-2018, 07:02 PM

Hmmm, idk if I'm reading it right, but numbers seem kind of low for a tuned FBO N55. Just out of curiosity, what gear did you do the pulls in?

Dheeth-G80 · 12-07-2018, 07:05 PM

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Hmmm, idk if I'm reading it right, but numbers seem kind of low for a tuned FBO N55. Just out of curiosity, what gear did you do the pulls in?

Yeah bro I'm hella bummed. These are all 4/5/6 gears. 315 is 6th gear and he said he hit 160mph in 6th. 4th gear was the shortest so hits redline too fast so 5/6 gears there. 4th got hella torque 386/381 wtq

jh_f30 · 12-07-2018, 07:20 PM

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Yeah bro I'm hella bummed. These are all 4/5/6 gears. 315 is 6th gear and he said he hit 160mph in 6th. 4th gear was the shortest so hits redline too fast so 5/6 gears there. 4th got hella torque 386/381 wtq

do you have datalogs?

Dheeth-G80 · 12-07-2018, 07:49 PM

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Yeah bro I'm hella bummed. These are all 4/5/6 gears. 315 is 6th gear and he said he hit 160mph in 6th. 4th gear was the shortest so hits redline too fast so 5/6 gears there. 4th got hella torque 386/381 wtq

do you have datalogs?

Yes I do, how can i attach them here? I can email them to you. I don't understand those but it be nice if you can give me some input

the dope steez · 12-07-2018, 07:50 PM

Hmm something is up, no way with those mods you are making 15 hp over stock.

Dheeth-G80 · 12-07-2018, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by the dope steez

Hmm something is up, no way with those mods you are making 15 hp over stock.

No this is Wheel Horse Power, crank must be 378

agentorange · 12-07-2018, 07:53 PM

All except the black plot show evidence of torque management or timing being pulled between 2k and 3k rpm. Is that the 4th gear pull?

Edited to add: Maybe it's the boost that is being pulled.

Dheeth-G80 · 12-07-2018, 07:55 PM

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All except the black plot show evidence of torque management or timing being pulled between 2k and 3k rpm. Is that the 4th gear pull?

That indeed is 4th gear pull, after about 4 pulls car was hear soaked so we let it sit down for 5 mins

akgambino · 12-07-2018, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Dheeth-F30

Yeah bro I'm hella bummed. These are all 4/5/6 gears. 315 is 6th gear and he said he hit 160mph in 6th. 4th gear was the shortest so hits redline too fast so 5/6 gears there. 4th got hella torque 386/381 wtq

do you have datalogs?

Yes I do, how can i attach them here? I can email them to you. I don't understand those but it be nice if you can give me some input

Copy and paste the links

BEAR-AvHistory · 12-07-2018, 08:41 PM

Somethings way wrong. This is my pure stock base run 2011 335is BMW advertised 320BHP & first cut with only a JB4 map 2 on 94 octane, no other add-ons

Pure stock baseline. Track test 13.0 to 13.4. seconds 107 to 110MPH. Compared favorably with other stock 335is 7DCT & other dynos

JB4 out of the box @ 94 octane

BTW not sure how you are getting 378BHP @ the crank out of those numbers.

jh_f30 · 12-07-2018, 08:53 PM

I'm probably not the best source to review data logs. You could also try sending them to PTF and see what they think.

If you calculate 15% drivetrain loss (debatable number), with 315 at the wheel, you'd come up with 370 crank. The thing is, even though the N55 is rated at 300bhp, it seems like most get pretty close to that at the wheels. This is where a baseline, at least with a stock map, would come in handy.

BEAR-AvHistory · 12-07-2018, 09:00 PM

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I'm probably not the best source to review data logs. You could also try sending them to PTF and see what they think.

If you calculate 15% drivetrain loss (debatable number), with 315 at the wheel, you'd come up with 370 crank. The thing is, even though the N55 is rated at 300bhp, it seems like most get pretty close to that at the wheels. This is where a baseline, at least with a stock map, would come in handy.

Thought it was the 15% thing. I tend not to use it because there are too many variables & no one knows what BMW is seeing on their own engine dynos so you can't back trace into a create a true loss allowance.

Could run the same test on a Mustang dyno & you would really cry at what WHP looks like. Would take a mega fudge factor, that would make 15% look ultra conservative, to get anywhere near 370 crank.

OP the only pull you want is whatever gear gives you a 1:1 ratio into the rear end. The rest just distort the numbers.

Dheeth-G80 · 12-08-2018, 01:24 PM

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Copy and paste the links

unfortunately files are in wp8 formart so idk what to do really

Dheeth-G80 · 12-08-2018, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by BEAR-AvHistory

Somethings way wrong. This is my pure stock base run 2011 335is BMW advertised 320BHP & first cut with only a JB4 map 2 on 94 octane, no other add-ons

Pure stock baseline. Track test 13.0 to 13.4. seconds 107 to 110MPH. Compared favorably with other stock 335is 7DCT & other dynos

JB4 out of the box @ 94 octane

BTW not sure how you are getting 378BHP @ the crank out of those numbers.

That 378 I calculated based on this online charting tool haha idk how accurate that is - https://www.mk5cortinaestate.co.uk/calculator4.php

BEAR-AvHistory · 12-08-2018, 02:21 PM

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That 378 I calculated based on this online charting tool haha idk how accurate that is - https://www.mk5cortinaestate.co.uk/calculator4.php

Its not just, a WAG based on an "Average" loss factor. I know my COBRA 5.0L does not have over 600 horsepower at the crank.

valve float · 12-08-2018, 02:25 PM

sorry but if OP is PWG and running ACN91 then numbers are in ballpark...

PWG and 91oct is the worst possible combination for a 'tuned' N55 F30...

akgambino · 12-08-2018, 02:46 PM

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Yeah bro I'm hella bummed. These are all 4/5/6 gears. 315 is 6th gear and he said he hit 160mph in 6th. 4th gear was the shortest so hits redline too fast so 5/6 gears there. 4th got hella torque 386/381 wtq

do you have datalogs?

Yes I do, how can i attach them here? I can email them to you. I don't understand those but it be nice if you can give me some input

So are you gonna post some logs so people can evaluate why the car had such a low hp dyno? Everyone just speculating in here without logs.

Look at those pulls on the dyno how they ramp up all weird, something weird was going on for sure and is likely related to the tune.

12-07-2018, 05:20 PM	#1
Dheeth-G80 Captain 226 Rep 604 Posts Drives: 2021 G80 M3C Join Date: May 2018 Location: Elk Grove, CA iTrader: (3)	Dyno Results are here!!! It's a 2013 BMW 335i with Bootmod3 Stage 2 OTS Flash Tune List of mods: 1. VRSF Catless Downpipe 2. VRSF FMIC HD 5" 3. VRSF Chargepipe 4. NGK Li Spark Plugs 5. Afe Magnum Pro Dry S Drop in Air filter 6. MPE Here is the picture - View post on imgur.com So I did data logging, some are only 3rd gear pulls some are full 3rd and 4th gear pull up to redline and here are the links: http://www.bootmod3.net/log?id=5c0f23f1d10b434ab039d262 http://www.bootmod3.net/log?id=5c0f240cd10b434ab039d264 http://www.bootmod3.net/log?id=5c0f2490d10b434ab039d265 http://www.bootmod3.net/log?id=5c0f250ad10b434ab039d266 http://www.bootmod3.net/log?id=5c0f2553d10b434ab039d267 http://www.bootmod3.net/log?id=5c0f25add10b434ab039d268 http://www.bootmod3.net/log?id=5c0f25ded10b434ab039d269 http://www.bootmod3.net/log?id=5c0f260fd10b434ab039d26a Hope this can help and see what's going on. __________________ 2021 G80 M3C - Current 2017 G30-B58 - Sold 2013 F30-N55 - Sold Last edited by Dheeth-G80; 12-10-2018 at 09:11 PM.. Reason: additional info
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jh_f30 Lieutenant Colonel 1306 Rep 1,827 Posts Drives: 2013 335i Sportline Auto RWD Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: Bay Area, CA iTrader: (2)	Hmmm, idk if I'm reading it right, but numbers seem kind of low for a tuned FBO N55. Just out of curiosity, what gear did you do the pulls in? __________________ 2013 F30 335i RWD ZF Melbourne Red ~Remus Sport Axleback~VRSF Chargepipe~VRSF Catless Downpipe~GPlus FMIC~HR Sport Springs~Active Autowerke OBD Flash Tune Stage 2~
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the dope steez Captain 403 Rep 808 Posts Drives: F30 335i M-Sport Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Shredmonton, Illberta iTrader: (0)	Hmm something is up, no way with those mods you are making 15 hp over stock.
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agentorange Major 1505 Rep 1,375 Posts Drives: 328d Join Date: Nov 2018 Location: Desert SW iTrader: (0)	All except the black plot show evidence of torque management or timing being pulled between 2k and 3k rpm. Is that the 4th gear pull? Edited to add: Maybe it's the boost that is being pulled. Last edited by agentorange; 12-07-2018 at 08:03 PM..
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BEAR-AvHistory 2020 Z4 M40i - 2022 M4C Convt 3124 Rep 5,264 Posts Drives: 2020 Z4 M40i - 2022 M4C Convrt Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Raleigh, NC - OIB, NC iTrader: (0) Garage List 1965 COBRA (FFR rep ... [8.57] 2023 Jeep Wrangler ... [9.50] 2009 Yamaha V-Star [0.00] Cars 2-BMW, 2-FORD, ... [0.00] 2023 Ford Expeditio ... [0.00] 2020 Z4 M40i [10.00] 2022 BMW M4C [7.25] 1998 FORD Ranger 4X4 [0.00]	Somethings way wrong. This is my pure stock base run 2011 335is BMW advertised 320BHP & first cut with only a JB4 map 2 on 94 octane, no other add-ons Pure stock baseline. Track test 13.0 to 13.4. seconds 107 to 110MPH. Compared favorably with other stock 335is 7DCT & other dynos JB4 out of the box @ 94 octane BTW not sure how you are getting 378BHP @ the crank out of those numbers. __________________ Kevin Dravit Gray, Black Leather, Moonlight Roof, Red Calipers 2022 M4C - 2020 Z4 M40i - 2023 FORD Expedition XLT Max 4X4 400BHP - 2009 V-Star - 1998 Ranger 4X4 5MT - 1965 Cobra (R) 5MT - 2023 Jeep Wrangler Sport S 6MT Last edited by BEAR-AvHistory; 12-07-2018 at 08:52 PM..
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jh_f30 Lieutenant Colonel 1306 Rep 1,827 Posts Drives: 2013 335i Sportline Auto RWD Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: Bay Area, CA iTrader: (2)	I'm probably not the best source to review data logs. You could also try sending them to PTF and see what they think. If you calculate 15% drivetrain loss (debatable number), with 315 at the wheel, you'd come up with 370 crank. The thing is, even though the N55 is rated at 300bhp, it seems like most get pretty close to that at the wheels. This is where a baseline, at least with a stock map, would come in handy. __________________ 2013 F30 335i RWD ZF Melbourne Red ~Remus Sport Axleback~VRSF Chargepipe~VRSF Catless Downpipe~GPlus FMIC~HR Sport Springs~Active Autowerke OBD Flash Tune Stage 2~
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valve float Private First Class 163 Rep 136 Posts Drives: b6 a4 avant 6sp, e90 M3 6sp Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: BC - Canada iTrader: (0)	sorry but if OP is PWG and running ACN91 then numbers are in ballpark... PWG and 91oct is the worst possible combination for a 'tuned' N55 F30...
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