[e46m3to335i]

Originally Posted by wdeerfield

I've had a vrsf chargepipe installed for 2 years on my xi without an issue and the car has been through multiple MPIs at the dealer and scanned several times and no issues. Yes the steering rack looks to be close but it is not rubbing at all. I do not have chipping powdercoat or anything. It looks brand new just like the day it went on. Will take photos of it installed if people want to question it. I have it paired with my vrsf fmic as well.

To the individual who keeps bashing the company and making themselves look like a fool, what are you hoping to accomplish.

Have you ever heard the phrase "praise in public, criticize in private"? You may have had better luck explaining to vrsf the whole story upfront and ask how they can help you out.

You clearly haven't read any of my previous posts because I clearly already explained that I contacted VRSF initially via a FB Messenger chat about the issues I was having with fitment and boost leaks. Out the gate they accused me of trying to jip them out of a replacement CP for basically no reason. I sent them the video showing it leaking under boost/pressure. VRSF also told me that they had NEVER had these issues that I was having. After I sent them the video, they went ghost. I have the entire FB messenger conversation saved and would have ZERO problems posting the entire thing on here. The entire conversation was comical from a customer service standpoint. However, I'm sure that wouldn't go very well for VRSF. If I really wanted to show how their customer service is, I could/would.


What I'm trying to accomplish is what I already have. My experience with the product and vendor. Am I trying to say the exact same experience will happen with the next person, of course not. Just showcasing how they treated me BEFORE I told them I wasn't the original owner of the CP(even though I purchased it NIB, unopened).


There's a guy in the member for sale section right now that has listed a IC, DP, CP that's brand new in box. I don't want to affect his sale but I also wouldn't want someone to buy something for a slight discount to get treated like I did by VRSF if/when they have a fitment/warranty issue like I did.

I'm glad your VRSF CP/IC has worked out for you

[wdeerfield]

Originally Posted by e46m3to335i

You clearly haven't read any of my previous posts because I clearly already explained that I contacted VRSF initially via a FB Messenger chat about the issues I was having with fitment and boost leaks. Out the gate they accused me of trying to jip them out of a replacement CP for basically no reason. I sent them the video showing it leaking under boost/pressure. VRSF also told me that they had NEVER had these issues that I was having. After I sent them the video, they went ghost. I have the entire FB messenger conversation saved and would have ZERO problems posting the entire thing on here. The entire conversation was comical from a customer service standpoint. However, I'm sure that wouldn't go very well for VRSF. If I really wanted to show how their customer service is, I could/would.


What I'm trying to accomplish is what I already have. My experience with the product and vendor. Am I trying to say the exact same experience will happen with the next person, of course not. Just showcasing how they treated me BEFORE I told them I wasn't the original owner of the CP(even though I purchased it NIB, unopened).


There's a guy in the member for sale section right now that has listed a IC, DP, CP that's brand new in box. I don't want to affect his sale but I also wouldn't want someone to buy something for a slight discount to get treated like I did by VRSF if/when they have a fitment/warranty issue like I did.

I'm glad your VRSF CP/IC has worked out for you

I do not know many products that transfer warranty of said product if you are not the original buyer. it's pretty simple. FB Messenger would have been the last place i would go to expect 100% service.

Yes, so far so good with my CP/IC from them, even though my IC had the wrong tabs (but that's a whole different topic and was easy to fix with pliers )

Hopefully you get everything sorted for your car.

[e46m3to335i]

Originally Posted by wdeerfield

I do not know many products that transfer warranty of said product if you are not the original buyer. it's pretty simple. FB Messenger would have been the last place i would go to expect 100% service.

Yes, so far so good with my CP/IC from them, even though my IC had the wrong tabs (but that's a whole different topic and was easy to fix with pliers )

Hopefully you get everything sorted for your car.

FWIW, I sent Tiago a message on here prior to reaching out to them on FB. Never got a reply on here so that's why I had to use other methods.

Not sure what difference it makes on how you contact a company for the type of customer service one receives. These days, contacting a company via a social media site is usually your best bet. VRSF doesn't have a phone number(for obvious reasons I guess) and that would have been my first method of contact, had it been available.

My car was sorted with CTS Turbo CP that fit like a glove.

[alohasurftoad]

Originally Posted by mcintoshf30

Thinking about going with CTS FMIC over Wagner comp EVOII, worth?

it depends what what stage you're going to.

i recommend this read by thx@ FaRKe!...https://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...ooler+shootout

wagner evo2 comp is best for stageII and up and for tracking. they'll be some lag for daily because of it's size.

atm is another offering i'd get if above stage2. bar/plate, ultra quality at a better price than the wagners.

wagner evo1 comp will have the least lag and be best for daily up to stage2. it's the lightest aftermarket fmic at 14.6lbs. best 5" stepped if you've got the money.

cts turbo is great for a budget 5" stepped, up to stage2, just under 20lbs. they're having a labor day sale right now. you can get their fmic and chargpipe for $547 shipped to your door. best bang for the buck for the budget minded. their quality is very very high considering how modestly it's priced.

https://www.ctsturbo.com/product-cat...-f30-f31-2013/

https://www.ctsturbo.com/product/cts...pe-set-xdrive/

[M-Powered702]

my 2014 335i x-drive just experienced the dreaded charge pipe failure a few days ago and I am looking into replacing it ASAP. The OEM charge pipe is 514.71 which hurts to see haha. I see that you guys are saying ER or VRSF. In what order would you rank OEM, ER, VRSF? I am planning to order by tomorrow. Thanks everyone!

[EDWYER]

Originally Posted by 52172

Zero problem with fitament on my vrsf here.

Same.

[Logicoeur]

Originally Posted by M-Powered702

my 2014 335i x-drive just experienced the dreaded charge pipe failure a few days ago and I am looking into replacing it ASAP. The OEM charge pipe is 514.71 which hurts to see haha. I see that you guys are saying ER or VRSF. In what order would you rank OEM, ER, VRSF? I am planning to order by tomorrow. Thanks everyone!

You should read a bit more. Never replace it with an oem CP. All of the aftermarket options are 1000x better and will not fail the way the oem part does.

[csmatheng]

I have used VRSF products in the past and I have had good luck with them. I dont think you could go wrong with the VRSF one.

[johnung]

Originally Posted by alohasurftoad

it depends what what stage you're going to.

i recommend this read by thx@ FaRKe!...https://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...ooler+shootout

wagner evo2 comp is best for stageII and up and for tracking. they'll be some lag for daily because of it's size.

atm is another offering i'd get if above stage2. bar/plate, ultra quality at a better price than the wagners.

wagner evo1 comp will have the least lag and be best for daily up to stage2. it's the lightest aftermarket fmic at 14.6lbs. best 5" stepped if you've got the money.

cts turbo is great for a budget 5" stepped, up to stage2, just under 20lbs. they're having a labor day sale right now. you can get their fmic and chargpipe for $547 shipped to your door. best bang for the buck for the budget minded. their quality is very very high considering how modestly it's priced.

https://www.ctsturbo.com/product-cat...-f30-f31-2013/

https://www.ctsturbo.com/product/cts...pe-set-xdrive/

"wagner evo1 comp will have the least lag and be best for daily up to stage2. it's the lightest aftermarket fmic at 14.6lbs. best 5" stepped if you've got the money."

Just to add to your comment above on the Wagner Competition EVO1...

My 2015 335ix was running a BMW MPPK tune when I installed the Wagner Competition EVO1 intercooler. Suddenly heat soak, that I didn't realize that I had, just disappeared. Previously if a light turned green and I opened up the throttle I would get great power. But if I tried to do that from 2, 3, or 4 lights in a row the engine would start to bog down and not seem as powerful on subsequent runs. That's heat soak. The intake temperature had gotten too high so the engine was compensating to keep itself in a safe operating zone. Heat soak was especially apparent during hot summer days when the ambient temperature was already starting out high.

As soon as the Wagner Competition EVO1 was installed the heat soak vanished. I could make run after run without losing any power. Didn't matter how hot of a day it was.

Later I installed the BootMod3 N55 EWG Stage1 93 octane tune. (It overwrites the MPPK tune. It doesn't add itself on top of it.) Still the same experiences to report with no heat soak.

Later after installing a high flow catted downpipe I upgraded to the BootMod3 N55 EWG Stage2 93 octane tune. Still the same experiences to report with no heat soak with the Wagner Competition EVO1 FMIC. Also I wouldn't expect that I'd experience any heat soak if I made runs at a drag strip or a single hot lap at an oval track like Pocono Raceway where they held ///MPACT EAST.

So the Wagner Competition EVO1 has been everything that I hoped for, and more, on my daily driver. My focus was on absolutely minimal turbo lag. Mike from X-PH actually talked me out of the Competition EVO2 and into the EVO1 since turbo lag was my top priority.

Based on my experience, where I could really see my car battling heat soak and requiring the Competition EVO2, is if I did lap after lap on oval tracks or on road courses. The constant high revs would definitely build up intake temperatures that could require the larger volume Competition EVO2. I wouldn't expect to notice any increase in turbo lag under those conditions because on a race track the revs are high.

Where turbo lag is most noticeable is lower in the range where intake pressures need to build up before you get boost and engine power. So you'll mostly see turbo lag from standing starts, highway on ramps and suddenly needing passing power when at low speeds/ low engine revs. Hope this detail helps someone!

[OEM+Alpine]

Originally Posted by e46m3to335i

FWIW, I sent Tiago a message on here prior to reaching out to them on FB. Never got a reply on here so that's why I had to use other methods.

Not sure what difference it makes on how you contact a company for the type of customer service one receives. These days, contacting a company via a social media site is usually your best bet. VRSF doesn't have a phone number(for obvious reasons I guess) and that would have been my first method of contact, had it been available.

My car was sorted with CTS Turbo CP that fit like a glove.

Originally Posted by e46m3to335i

FWIW, I sent Tiago a message on here prior to reaching out to them on FB. Never got a reply on here so that's why I had to use other methods.

Not sure what difference it makes on how you contact a company for the type of customer service one receives. These days, contacting a company via a social media site is usually your best bet. VRSF doesn't have a phone number(for obvious reasons I guess) and that would have been my first method of contact, had it been available.

My car was sorted with CTS Turbo CP that fit like a glove.

www.moveon.com

[Sickining]

Originally Posted by e46m3to335i

The simple fact that you as a well known company in this industry would even offer a discount to buyers of your improved/fixed design to "prove" that your products fit is nothing short of an embarrassment.

Ever notice how "good quality cars" don't have rebates/discounts ??? Odd huh. Lol

You guys couldn't get your N54 DP's right for years, your catted DP's that we're guaranteed to give no CEL didn't work, a huge amount of F Series CP's had to be redesigned.

But yeah, that's all the great and quality fitment you'd expect from VRSF right. Let me let you in on a little secret. This community expects to have a 50/50 chance that the parts we buy will fit. That's what we expect.

@VRSF. Your products have ALWAYS been mediocre at best in terms of fitment and quality, you're customer service is trash. The simple fact that you have to comment in here defending your own company speaks volumes.

If you and your company were crushing sales and customer services issues like you're supposed to, you'd have dozens of people defending your brand. Instead you have like 2-3.

And we wonder why VRSF doesn't have a telephone number to call........

Good to know👍🏼

[mcintoshf30]

Originally Posted by alohasurftoad

it depends what what stage you're going to.

i recommend this read by thx@ FaRKe!...https://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...ooler+shootout

wagner evo2 comp is best for stageII and up and for tracking. they'll be some lag for daily because of it's size.

atm is another offering i'd get if above stage2. bar/plate, ultra quality at a better price than the wagners.

wagner evo1 comp will have the least lag and be best for daily up to stage2. it's the lightest aftermarket fmic at 14.6lbs. best 5" stepped if you've got the money.

cts turbo is great for a budget 5" stepped, up to stage2, just under 20lbs. they're having a labor day sale right now. you can get their fmic and chargpipe for $547 shipped to your door. best bang for the buck for the budget minded. their quality is very very high considering how modestly it's priced.

https://www.ctsturbo.com/product-cat...-f30-f31-2013/

https://www.ctsturbo.com/product/cts...pe-set-xdrive/

My CTS chargepipe and downpipe come next week. I think I'll go with ATM, hopefully it'll provide enough cooling for when I got stage 3 while also not being too laggy.

[n55david]

Originally Posted by mcintoshf30

My CTS chargepipe and downpipe come next week. I think I'll go with ATM, hopefully it'll provide enough cooling for when I got stage 3 while also not being too laggy.

whos the go to cts dealer on this site?

[alohasurftoad]

Originally Posted by Phantom10R

whos the go to cts dealer on this site?

i don't think there is a dealer on this site. just go straight to their website. right now they have an oktoberfest sale. charge pipes, catless down pipes, intercooler and intake on sale

[mcintoshf30]

Originally Posted by alohasurftoad

i don't think there is a dealer on this site. just go straight to their website. right now they have an oktoberfest sale. charge pipes, catless down pipes, intercooler and intake on sale

Originally Posted by Phantom10R

whos the go to cts dealer on this site?

Originally Posted by alohasurftoad

i don't think there is a dealer on this site. just go straight to their website. right now they have an oktoberfest sale. charge pipes, catless down pipes, intercooler and intake on sale

I got it directly from CTS

[Jeff@TopGearSolutions]

Originally Posted by Phantom10R

whos the go to cts dealer on this site?

Originally Posted by alohasurftoad

i don't think there is a dealer on this site. just go straight to their website. right now they have an oktoberfest sale. charge pipes, catless down pipes, intercooler and intake on sale

We can help and discount

[Tiago@VRSF]

Again, I can't apologize enough for the inconvenience some may have experienced in the past but the charge pipe has been redesigned and we have thousands of successful installs with our new revision.

ANYONE who's had an issue with fitment regarding this individual chargepipe, please contact support@vr-speed.com and we'll get you setup with a replacement at our cost

[JTTBMR]

Originally Posted by skyactiv0

So I'm planning on purchasing a new chargepipe for my 2014 435i xDrive. After doing some research, it appears that the VRSF chargepipe has an issue where the fitment is hit or miss.

Is this still the case? Or am I better off, just spending more for the ER chargepipe?

Thanks guys!

I recently put on vrsf cp on my 2015 335 xdrive. Install was a disaster. It's extremely close to the steering.. I barely got it on. I have the vrsf intercooler as well. I thought it'd help to remove it for the install, it didn't. There's a rubber coupler that needs to be pretty much stretched to its limit even with each end secure to the edge. Spend the extra for the other one. I'll probably end up pulling this one out and swapping with the other.. I tried installing it with lose connections then tightening them but nothing really helped. I honestly think I just got lucky by finally getting it on lol

[n55david]

Originally Posted by JTTBMR

I recently put on vrsf cp on my 2015 335 xdrive. Install was a disaster. It's extremely close to the steering.. I barely got it on. I have the vrsf intercooler as well. I thought it'd help to remove it for the install, it didn't. There's a rubber coupler that needs to be pretty much stretched to its limit even with each end secure to the edge. Spend the extra for the other one. I'll probably end up pulling this one out and swapping with the other.. I tried installing it with lose connections then tightening them but nothing really helped. I honestly think I just got lucky by finally getting it on lol

Mine hit the steering no matter what I did to fix it... we have the same car.

I ended up finally pulling it out and it was already all messed up from where it was rubbing. I had to clock the fitment a bunch and really do some goofy stuff with the hose and clamps to make it work. I had already had an issue with VRSF and wanted to avoid going through it again. My original issues were handled but it wasnt the best experience even after getting some extra money off on my down pipe that I ordered after my initial order of my charge pipe and intercooler. I still believe I have a leak but its so small that Im at the point of saying f it lol.

I will say that its very likely that I will be going through them again for some parts for my wifes X3. Im not holding a grudge at all and Im hoping that the next purchase goes as well as my downpipe purchase!

[n55david]

Originally Posted by Tiago@VRSF

Again, I can't apologize enough for the inconvenience some may have experienced in the past but the charge pipe has been redesigned and we have thousands of successful installs with our new revision.

ANYONE who's had an issue with fitment regarding this individual chargepipe, please contact support@vr-speed.com and we'll get you setup with a replacement at our cost

Whats the process for a replacement?

[JTTBMR]

Originally Posted by Phantom10R

Mine hit the steering no matter what I did to fix it... we have the same car.

I ended up finally pulling it out and it was already all messed up from where it was rubbing. I had to clock the fitment a bunch and really do some goofy stuff with the hose and clamps to make it work. I had already had an issue with VRSF and wanted to avoid going through it again. My original issues were handled but it wasnt the best experience even after getting some extra money off on my down pipe that I ordered after my initial order of my charge pipe and intercooler. I still believe I have a leak but its so small that Im at the point of saying f it lol.

I will say that its very likely that I will be going through them again for some parts for my wifes X3. Im not holding a grudge at all and Im hoping that the next purchase goes as well as my downpipe purchase!

I think mine clears the steering but I'll have to double check. I got mine recently so it's the updated one that might fix the issue you had. I'm having other issues with the coupler and clamps barely being on. I definitely don't feel like it's secure. I had to install it that way or else it wouldn't reach. I'm dealing with vrsf support at the moment to figure it out. They've always been quick with responding and their customer support is really good. Honestly, I think a longer coupler would be all that's needed

[n55david]

Originally Posted by JTTBMR

I think mine clears the steering but I'll have to double check. I got mine recently so it's the updated one that might fix the issue you had. I'm having other issues with the coupler and clamps barely being on. I definitely don't feel like it's secure. I had to install it that way or else it wouldn't reach. I'm dealing with vrsf support at the moment to figure it out. They've always been quick with responding and their customer support is really good. Honestly, I think a longer coupler would be all that's needed

Maybe Ill give it a shot