help for a friend

KRS_SN · 02-16-2020, 10:51 AM

a friend is in the market for a car
he has narrowed his choices to
330d or
audi s4 diesel
he tells me Audi has 82hp more and us only 2k dearer.
how should i advise him/ any of you faced a similar situation and how did you decide.

NotGotABimmer23 · 02-16-2020, 11:03 AM

I'd get the audi personally...

JD6 · 02-16-2020, 11:17 AM

If there's just 2k between them, I would take the S4 as well. it's a significantly faster, better-equipped car.

Londoner · 02-19-2020, 10:50 AM

The 335d is surely a fairer comparison?

KRS_SN · 02-19-2020, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Londoner

The 335d is surely a fairer comparison?

the new 3 series does not have a 335d version available to buy at present.

Londoner · 02-19-2020, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by KRS_SN

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Originally Posted by Londoner

The 335d is surely a fairer comparison?

the new 3 series does not have a 335d version available to buy at present.

Ahhh gotcha, my bad! The m340d being the potential replacement I guess.

Cootie · 02-19-2020, 12:54 PM

Given those numbers I’d be going S4 as well

335d Rocco · 02-19-2020, 01:09 PM

With the 340d looming on the horizon I’d be holding fire & waiting to see how that drives.

seenthelight! · 02-19-2020, 01:45 PM

not exactly what you asked ..... but a mate has the new s4 coupe, but after testing my 435d for a full day, he much prefers mine - marginally faster, more economical, more refined and comfier to name a few good points that he confirmed.
if it were a plain choice between the audi and the 30d, i would go with the audi, but compared to the 35d, i would go with the beemer, and the 40d would only reinforce this ...

CuntFace5000 · 02-19-2020, 01:52 PM

Is the 340d going to be 48v? How many turbos will it have? Hard to see how the current 35d can be bettered as standard

lethbridge · 02-19-2020, 03:57 PM

Yes - I'd say M340d then S4 with 330d in a tier below - issue being M340d isn't here... So if you have to buy now then S4 (if that is the kind of car you want) - suspect if S4 is on your radar then the 330d won't be special enough... If you can wait then test drive M340d and decide after that... or test an M40d X3 against an S4 now which will give him enough of a clue as to whether to wait... Having said all that I've not been following whether M340d is confirmed for UK...

Hooded · 02-19-2020, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Londoner

The 335d is surely a fairer comparison?

Indeed, ..even though the new diesel s4 has more power (347ps) it doesn’t seem to be particularly quicker than the old 335d, probably due to it being a bit of a heavy pudding if these figures are close to accurate
http://www.zeperfs.com/en/duel6195-8103.ht

I’d wager the new m340d will have the edge when it arrives!

G82Dude · 02-20-2020, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by 335d Rocco

With the 340d looming on the horizon I’d be holding fire & waiting to see how that drives.

Just been announced on EVO.

And even better - no mingin' grille!

Goneinsixtyseconds · 02-20-2020, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by F82Dude

Just been announced on EVO.

And even better - no mingin' grille!

The grilles exactly the same......just the cerium, like on the M340i slightly down plays it. Still too high up and looks stupid.

G82Dude · 02-21-2020, 04:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Goneinsixtyseconds

The grilles exactly the same......just the cerium, like on the M340i slightly down plays it. Still too high up and looks stupid.

I was comparing with the new 4!

Watsey · 02-22-2020, 07:42 AM

330d and a decent remap will provide the same shove, RWD, and save him more than a grand compared to the S4.

But I am biased

isleaiw1 · 02-22-2020, 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by seenthelight!

not exactly what you asked ..... but a mate has the new s4 coupe, but after testing my 435d for a full day, he much prefers mine - marginally faster, more economical, more refined and comfier to name a few good points that he confirmed.
if it were a plain choice between the audi and the 30d, i would go with the audi, but compared to the 35d, i would go with the beemer, and the 40d would only reinforce this ...

There isn’t an s4 coupe, assume you mean s5?

Having had an SQ5, I can agree on the more economical, but the rest would be debatable, never driven a car as refined as the SQ5, it went pretty well and handled / rode well as a fair compromise.

I would be looking at the new s4 if diesel was my thing...

AntF32 · 02-22-2020, 09:05 AM

I'm not a BMW brand whore but i honestly find the BMW dash and centre column much more appealing than the Audi.

seenthelight! · 02-22-2020, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by isleaiw1

There isn’t an s4 coupe, assume you mean s5?

Having had an SQ5, I can agree on the more economical, but the rest would be debatable, never driven a car as refined as the SQ5, it went pretty well and handled / rode well as a fair compromise.

I would be looking at the new s4 if diesel was my thing...

Soz, my bad, meant S5 !

02-16-2020, 10:51 AM	#1
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Cootie Captain 255 Rep 816 Posts Drives: 335d Xdrive with ACS Springs Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Edinburgh iTrader: (0)	Given those numbers I’d be going S4 as well
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335d Rocco Major 114 Rep 1,058 Posts Drives: G01 BMW X3 30d M Sport Plus Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Hampshire iTrader: (1) Garage List 2019 BMW X3 30d M S ... [0.00] 2008 BMW 330i M Spo ... [0.00]	With the 340d looming on the horizon I’d be holding fire & waiting to see how that drives.
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seenthelight! Second Lieutenant 169 Rep 271 Posts Drives: bmw 435d f32 coupe Join Date: Oct 2018 Location: west yorkshire iTrader: (0)	not exactly what you asked ..... but a mate has the new s4 coupe, but after testing my 435d for a full day, he much prefers mine - marginally faster, more economical, more refined and comfier to name a few good points that he confirmed. if it were a plain choice between the audi and the 30d, i would go with the audi, but compared to the 35d, i would go with the beemer, and the 40d would only reinforce this ... __________________ Ex S3 & GLA45 AMG ... now 435d F32 coupe
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CuntFace5000 Banned 53 Rep 251 Posts Drives: 335d Join Date: Nov 2019 Location: England, Essex iTrader: (0)	Is the 340d going to be 48v? How many turbos will it have? Hard to see how the current 35d can be bettered as standard
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lethbridge Captain 470 Rep 784 Posts Drives: 2018 F80 M3 CP YMB Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: United Kingdom iTrader: (0) Garage List 2018 BMW M3 CP [10.00]	Yes - I'd say M340d then S4 with 330d in a tier below - issue being M340d isn't here... So if you have to buy now then S4 (if that is the kind of car you want) - suspect if S4 is on your radar then the 330d won't be special enough... If you can wait then test drive M340d and decide after that... or test an M40d X3 against an S4 now which will give him enough of a clue as to whether to wait... Having said all that I've not been following whether M340d is confirmed for UK... __________________ Current: 2018 F80 M3CP YMB. Previous: 2015: F34 335d GT M Sport+; 2012: F07 535d GT M Sport; 2008: 335d SE; 2005: 530d; 2003: 330d; 2002: 330i; 1999: 523i
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Watsey Major General 6407 Rep 8,497 Posts Drives: F31 330D sDrive M Sport Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: On sabbatical. iTrader: (1)	330d and a decent remap will provide the same shove, RWD, and save him more than a grand compared to the S4. But I am biased __________________ Current : F31 330sD, remapped, Ohlins Road & Track, Millway camber plates, Quaife LSD, Stoptech brakes + Pagid RSL1 pads all round, Weichers front strut brace, Eibach front & rear anti-roll bars, Michelin MP4S.
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AntF32 First Lieutenant 447 Rep 356 Posts Drives: G30 540i xDrive - Carbon Black Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: Hampshire (the first one) iTrader: (0)	I'm not a BMW brand whore but i honestly find the BMW dash and centre column much more appealing than the Audi.
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