JB+...the truth...dyno numbers

JG_Coupe88 · 07-10-2018, 07:54 PM

Looking forward to these results! At some point later this year I'll get mine on a dyno.

mendozahtc · 07-10-2018, 11:42 PM

Great work. Ordered my jb+ last week. Just waiting for it to be delivered.

Fronttwelv · 07-12-2018, 05:51 PM

I've been waiting all week to see the results from tomorrow. Ghost, are you still going to the dyno tomorrow?

Gen13 F36 · 07-12-2018, 06:05 PM

The suspense😂

MacklinUSOB · 07-12-2018, 06:18 PM

Haven't slept all week.

N26Ghost · 07-13-2018, 11:36 AM

Hey all,

The shop called me and let me know that the owner is going on a trip this weekend and they've postponed my run until Monday, sigh...

I know folks have been waiting for this data, so I am sure you can imagine how much I wanted to get the data today.

All things considered, it isn't that much longer, but sorry to the folks that have sub'd who've been patiently waiting to see the final results.

The new appt. is Monday @ 9AM PST. This is ideal since last week's appt. was at 9:30, so the atmospheric conditions should be pretty similar.

Just a few more days...

DarkStarBimmer · 07-13-2018, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by N26Ghost

Hey all,

The shop called me and let me know that the owner is going on a trip this weekend and they've postponed my run until Monday, sigh...

I know folks have been waiting for this data, so I am sure you can imagine how much I wanted to get the data today.

All things considered, it isn't that much longer, but sorry to the folks that have sub'd who've been patiently waiting to see the final results.

The new appt. is Monday @ 9AM PST. This is ideal since last week's appt. was at 9:30, so the atmospheric conditions should be pretty similar.

Just a few more days...

Life happens, we shall wait!

Solidjake · 07-13-2018, 04:27 PM

I kid I kid, can't wait for the results

N26Ghost · 07-16-2018, 11:44 AM

Just arrived at the shop and they're getting the car strapped down. Results to follow soon.

f20phil · 07-16-2018, 12:04 PM

Im so exited for this! installed jb+ on my b48 engine like 2 weeks ago

Solidjake · 07-16-2018, 01:14 PM

N26Ghost · 07-16-2018, 02:54 PM

Atmospherics were almost identical, so I will fast forward to the punchline...the average of the three runs came out to 238.6 whp and 260.6 wtq on 91 RON. Accounting for the same 15.9% driveline loss we used before, these come out to 283.7 hp and 309.9 lb-ft. at the crank.

Our baseline numbers were 252.71 hp and 281.96 lb-ft., which pencils out to a gain of 30.01 hp and 27.94 lb-ft.

For the minimal investment of $200 (about what I spent to write this post), I can say definitively that the JB+ does indeed net you the most performance per dollar on an N26 engine.

I will post the graphs when I get back to the house.

rjd_F30 · 07-16-2018, 03:32 PM

N26Ghost thanks a bunch for taking the time to do this write up! Great numbers and some great info

FaRKle! · 07-16-2018, 03:43 PM

So +26.07 hp and +23.47 lb/ft at the wheels. Not bad.

DarkStarBimmer · 07-16-2018, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by FaRKle!

So +26.07 hp and +23.47 lb/ft at the wheels. Not bad.

26+ to the wheels for under 200...better than not bad in my book. God bless boost pressure.

F30NEEDS · 07-16-2018, 04:56 PM

Not bad at all!

Tyresian · 07-16-2018, 05:01 PM

For sure, you can not beat the JB+ when it comes to performance for price.

It is funny in the video that was posted earlier in this thread where the guy says not really worth it. Yet people are spending $500+ on cold air intakes that provide little or no performance increase. I get wanting more noise that's a different matter, but come on.

I'm glad to see proven results here, though your torque numbers in your first dyno runs are interesting, depending on how your read the numbers it would look like there was no torque difference with that one high run, but I guess we don't have the full charts yet for the JB+ runs.

JG_Coupe88 · 07-17-2018, 10:09 AM

Nice job man, goes to show that our little N20/N26s are pretty potent pretty easily.

N26Ghost · 07-17-2018, 12:05 PM

Hey all, I've edited my post to include the graphs from yesterday.

Solidjake · 07-17-2018, 02:21 PM

Thanks for the dyno graph. Looks like the OEM graph without the JB delivers consistent power whereas the JB+ graph is a bit unstable. I think with bootmod3 changing configs to all of the modules it should deliver the same consistent band throughout the rpm range.

N26Ghost · 07-17-2018, 04:12 PM

Here they are side-by-side for comparison...

Actually...now that they are both here...it almost looks smoother with the JB+ than without...

M2_MEDUSA · 07-17-2018, 04:44 PM

Hmmmm best for dollar? I disagree. You gained about 20whp. When bootmod3 is 595$ and you will gain almost tripple and it's safer and it is more high tech

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07-12-2018, 06:05 PM	#48
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07-13-2018, 11:36 AM	#50
N26Ghost Lieutenant 497 Rep 537 Posts Drives: 2014 BMW 328i M Sport Join Date: Mar 2018 Location: Elk Grove, CA iTrader: (0)	Dammit... Hey all, The shop called me and let me know that the owner is going on a trip this weekend and they've postponed my run until Monday, sigh... I know folks have been waiting for this data, so I am sure you can imagine how much I wanted to get the data today. All things considered, it isn't that much longer, but sorry to the folks that have sub'd who've been patiently waiting to see the final results. The new appt. is Monday @ 9AM PST. This is ideal since last week's appt. was at 9:30, so the atmospheric conditions should be pretty similar. Just a few more days...
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07-16-2018, 11:44 AM	#53
N26Ghost Lieutenant 497 Rep 537 Posts Drives: 2014 BMW 328i M Sport Join Date: Mar 2018 Location: Elk Grove, CA iTrader: (0)	Dyno Day Just arrived at the shop and they're getting the car strapped down. Results to follow soon. __________________ '14 F30 328i M Sport // FBO // bm3 Stage 2+ DME Tune // Stage 1 TCU Tune // Apex EC-7s on Conti DWS06+s // 1 of 6 ever made of this spec (3C13 US-SULEV German-built //
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07-16-2018, 02:54 PM	#56
N26Ghost Lieutenant 497 Rep 537 Posts Drives: 2014 BMW 328i M Sport Join Date: Mar 2018 Location: Elk Grove, CA iTrader: (0)	Results are in Atmospherics were almost identical, so I will fast forward to the punchline...the average of the three runs came out to 238.6 whp and 260.6 wtq on 91 RON. Accounting for the same 15.9% driveline loss we used before, these come out to 283.7 hp and 309.9 lb-ft. at the crank. Our baseline numbers were 252.71 hp and 281.96 lb-ft., which pencils out to a gain of 30.01 hp and 27.94 lb-ft. For the minimal investment of $200 (about what I spent to write this post), I can say definitively that the JB+ does indeed net you the most performance per dollar on an N26 engine. I will post the graphs when I get back to the house. Attached Images Last edited by N26Ghost; 07-17-2018 at 12:03 PM.. Reason: Adding Photo
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07-16-2018, 03:32 PM	#57
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07-17-2018, 12:05 PM	#63
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07-17-2018, 04:12 PM	#65
N26Ghost Lieutenant 497 Rep 537 Posts Drives: 2014 BMW 328i M Sport Join Date: Mar 2018 Location: Elk Grove, CA iTrader: (0)	Side by side Here they are side-by-side for comparison... Actually...now that they are both here...it almost looks smoother with the JB+ than without... Attached Images
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M2_MEDUSA Major 664 Rep 1,074 Posts Drives: 2021 M2 Comp. SpecialEdition Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: Texas iTrader: (0)	Hmmmm best for dollar? I disagree. You gained about 20whp. When bootmod3 is 595$ and you will gain almost tripple and it's safer and it is more high tech __________________ Instagram: M2_Medusa
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