[Relax19]

Originally Posted by MacklinUSOB

Thanks.

My camber could have been a little more aggressive, but I also had my suspension raised up a good bit while they did this install. I've read that you should expect between -.8 to -1 increase with the arms. I lost about -.2 off my pre-LCA alignment to the height increase.

To get into -2 territory you'll need either camber plates or a combination of F80 LCA and the F30 -.5 correction hub.

Bollocks. Thanks! I'll take what I can get. It's so frustrating that the F30 drives like a Camry, it needs camber from the factory. It's just understeer central without it

I don't want to do plates on my DD, I already have them on my track prep'd m3 and the NVH would drive me up the wall.

[MacklinUSOB]

Originally Posted by Relax19

Bollocks. Thanks! I'll take what I can get. It's so frustrating that the F30 drives like a Camry, it needs camber from the factory. It's just understeer central without it

I don't want to do plates on my DD, I already have them on my track prep'd m3 and the NVH would drive me up the wall.

No problem. I agree with you there, my car was so quick to understeer while stock. Between the over-stiff run flats, lack of steering feel, and non-existent camber it was not confidence inspiring on tight and twisty roads, and just awful at AutoX. It really comes alive with proper tires and camber.

I definitely wouldn't want them on mine either. Having ridden in cars with them before I knew they were not for me.

[Bryan_KiesMotorsports]

Originally Posted by BMW DIY Guy

Hey yall:

I am definitely considering this, well correction, considering this depending on cost as my budget as always is super constrainted.

F80

What do you guys think of this? Anyone done the same?

Outstanding questions I have at this point.
1. arm part numbers
right - 31122284530 - $208
left - 31122284529 $208
2. headlight control rod part number -
Whole kit including arms and control rod - $386
https://www.ecstuning.com/b-genuine-...31122284529kt/
3. proper torque - ???

Worth it?

Thanks for sharing the video, much appreciated

If anyone wants the control arms, I haven't sold them yet. They only have about a quarter mile of driving on them lol.

Not that it was challenged, but before I did it I talked to Turner and also FCP euro and neither thought there would be any problem with the xdrive, but I hope my little mishap saves others from having the same issue. For those who have done it on RWD, I've heard great things!

Bryan

[Bryan_KiesMotorsports]

Originally Posted by jh_f30

yeowtch!
I'm a fan of bkkeys so seeing this sucks. Gotta be honest though, I did chuckle at the vid a little bit, in a sympathetic, nervous laugh kinda way. He seems in fairly good spirits and definitely toftt!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iL_Xgl-Hb-s

Lol. Gotta pay to play as they say! Thanks for checking us out, we appreciate it

[BMW DIY Guy]

Originally Posted by bkkeys

Thanks for sharing the video, much appreciated

If anyone wants the control arms, I haven't sold them yet. They only have about a quarter mile of driving on them lol.

Not that it was challenged, but before I did it I talked to Turner and also FCP euro and neither thought there would be any problem with the xdrive, but I hope my little mishap saves others from having the same issue. For those who have done it on RWD, I've heard great things!

Bryan

SORELY tempted to take these off your hands.. dang it.. one project at a time..

[N420i]

Originally Posted by bkkeys

Thanks for sharing the video, much appreciated

If anyone wants the control arms, I haven't sold them yet. They only have about a quarter mile of driving on them lol.

Not that it was challenged, but before I did it I talked to Turner and also FCP euro and neither thought there would be any problem with the xdrive, but I hope my little mishap saves others from having the same issue. For those who have done it on RWD, I've heard great things!

Bryan

Would you consider shipping internationally? Nowhere particularly exotic, just Spain, regular USPS would do.

If so shoot me a PM with pricing please, I'm interested in acquiring a pair of these.

[teapain]

I just did this bc I needed new control arms but I wouldn't have otherwise. My car with 19X8 front wheels + 10mm spacers + Dinan Springs now rubs during hard cornering.

[kern417]

so just to confirm, there's no way to fix the increased caster and get the wheels back center?

[sspade]

Other than the actual LCA's -

Are there are any other required or recommended parts or hardware that should be installed when fitting to an F30 ?

Can someone confirm R and L part numbers?

[Nugget]

Originally Posted by Relax19

I need to do this on my F30, does anyone know if the spacers are necessary for the F30? Or was that just needed on the F22? I'm planning on doing both Control Arms and Thrust Arms as the the F30 out of the box handles like trash and seriously needs camber up front.

You can either
-use spacers
-press a F30 bush into the F80 control arm
-wait for the control arm kit super pro is going to release early 2019 that is supposed to be plug and play.

[BMW DIY Guy]

Originally Posted by Nugget

You can either
-use spacers
-press a F30 bush into the F80 control arm
-wait for the control arm kit super pro is going to release early 2019 that is supposed to be plug and play.

where is this kit coming from?

[Nugget]

Originally Posted by BMW DIY Guy

where is this kit coming from?

https://superpro.com.au/

[Sweeney921]

Originally Posted by Nugget

https://superpro.com.au/

Is there a page discussing their LCA development or did you find out about it via email, calls, etc.? Also any word on if their kit will be compatible with xDrive?

[Nugget]

Originally Posted by Sweeney921

Is there a page discussing their LCA development or did you find out about it via email, calls, etc.? Also any word on if their kit will be compatible with xDrive?

It was in an Australian M-lite facebook group.
Not sure about x drive as we don't get them in Australia.

[nyc_dude]

There are several kits for this mod. Need a shop with an alignment rack.

<<<NOT COMPATIBLE WITH XDRIVE>>>

FCP Euro has all the P/Ns and hardware

https://www.fcpeuro.com/products/bmw...QaAuHQEALw_wcB

ECS Tuning: 2 LCA + Headlight Level Bracket
https://www.ecstuning.com/b-genuine-...31122284529kt/

ECS Tuning: TRW Full Kit
https://www.ecstuning.com/b-trw-part...7142283867ekt/

ECS Tuning: BMW OEM Full Kit
https://www.ecstuning.com/b-genuine-...7142283867gkt/

GetBMWParts probably has the best prices


Cheers

[Polo08816]

Originally Posted by nyc_dude

There are several kits for this mod. Need a shop with an alignment rack.

<<<NOT COMPATIBLE WITH XDRIVE>>>

FCP Euro has all the P/Ns and hardware

https://www.fcpeuro.com/products/bmw...QaAuHQEALw_wcB

ECS Tuning: 2 LCA + Headlight Level Bracket
https://www.ecstuning.com/b-genuine-...31122284529kt/

ECS Tuning: TRW Full Kit
https://www.ecstuning.com/b-trw-part...7142283867ekt/

ECS Tuning: BMW OEM Full Kit
https://www.ecstuning.com/b-genuine-...7142283867gkt/

GetBMWParts probably has the best prices


Cheers

You can take the toe measurements with toe plates before modifying the car. And then after you install one side with M3 LCAs, get your toe back into spec. then install M3 LCAs on the other side and do the same.

We did this and were within 0 degrees and 4 minutes off from the factory spec. It allowed us to drive 30 minutes to the alignment shot.

[BMW DIY Guy]

Originally Posted by Nugget

It was in an Australian M-lite facebook group.
Not sure about x drive as we don't get them in Australia.

Absolutely NOT compatible with Xdrive, and seen what happens when you try.. its bad.

[BMW DIY Guy]

Originally Posted by nyc_dude

There are several kits for this mod. Need a shop with an alignment rack.

<<<NOT COMPATIBLE WITH XDRIVE>>>

FCP Euro has all the P/Ns and hardware

https://www.fcpeuro.com/products/bmw...QaAuHQEALw_wcB

ECS Tuning: 2 LCA + Headlight Level Bracket
https://www.ecstuning.com/b-genuine-...31122284529kt/

ECS Tuning: TRW Full Kit
https://www.ecstuning.com/b-trw-part...7142283867ekt/

ECS Tuning: BMW OEM Full Kit
https://www.ecstuning.com/b-genuine-...7142283867gkt/

GetBMWParts probably has the best prices


Cheers

Thanks man.. fantastic references for sure. I am still trying to figure out if this is worth doing, granted the prices are pretty reasonable all things considered and also watched the DIYs on how to do it. My only concern would be reinstalling properly to then get it to an alignment shop to finish the work.

*ponder* Maybe adding this to my bucket list of To Dos. Side note, using the parts list it looks like $408 from GetBMWParts

[SilkySmoooth]

Please try it! Do it for all of us who are wondering!!

[JMK007]

Having just switched back to anF30 after several years in other car makes, I was really excited to learn about this alternative to camber plates. So I jumped in (apparently too quickly) and got a “kit” from a highly reputable vendor that sells both the F80 LCAs and tension struts as a plug and play for the F30. Well, the installer and I just learned tonight the F80 tension struts definitely don’t fit the F30. I wish I read this post earlier, notwithstanding the vendors assurances to me everything fits. Does anyone know where I can get spacers that will allow the tension struts to fit? I also saw some reference to trying to to push the larger F30 bushing into the tension strut of the F80. Based on bushing housing for the F80 v. F30, I don’t see how this would work right. Has anyone successfully done this?

[Polo08816]

Originally Posted by JMK007

Having just switched back to anF30 after several years in other car makes, I was really excited to learn about this alternative to camber plates. So I jumped in (apparently too quickly) and got a “kit” from a highly reputable vendor that sells both the F80 LCAs and tension struts as a plug and play for the F30. Well, the installer and I just learned tonight the F80 tension struts definitely don’t fit the F30. I wish I read this post earlier, notwithstanding the vendors assurances to me everything fits. Does anyone know where I can get spacers that will allow the tension struts to fit? I also saw some reference to trying to to push the larger F30 bushing into the tension strut of the F80. Based on bushing housing for the F80 v. F30, I don’t see how this would work right. Has anyone successfully done this?

Read this thread:

https://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...1090804&page=7

I used the spacers linked by MacklinUSOB .

[JMK007]

Thanks!