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      04-07-2012, 04:59 AM   #45
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If you are dissatisfied with the dealer just check out some other dealer and explain to them your concerns with your current dealer and see if they can source you the same car earlier and even cheaper. They will definitely price match at the bare minimum
I'm hugely satisfied with the dealer and they have just been awarded best BMW UK dealership! They're absoloutely fantastic but I will be investigating this episode based on what people are saying here...
The car has been on order since late February and I said I don't want it till 26th March 'cos my 330d lease ends on the 28th. What annoys me is that they have had all this time to fanny about and only now (49 days away from 26th March) am I told it could be delayed! Ugh, he needs to confirm it yet but wants to be honest with us which is good of him. I hope it is a genuine N20 shortage and not just my ordering being shafted. Meh, time will tell!
Your dealer's confirmation here may be an attempt to measure your displeasure. If you don't kick and scream, perhaps they may give away your slot.

Make sure you kick and scream.
I've had this thought too, you could be right. Waiting for him to get back to me with the "confirmation" or not.
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I agree, sounds like a ruse to me. Push back, imply you'll have to rethink your options. Your car will be here soon enough I bet!
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Wow that's very expensive. That's so much more than Aus.

I bet everyone will be drooling over your ride soon enough lol
Yeah, some of my friends can't wait. they're even more excited than i am.

How expensive are cars in Australia anyway? I always thought they were cheap...(or maybe it's just that, compared with SG, they're cheaper).

Would you know how much my car would cost in Aus, J1n?
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SGScuba: Based on your description here.. it seems as though the base price is higher but the options seems so much cheaper.

For a 328 base it's ~75k AUD before any options.. each would go for around 1.5k AUD roughly, and this is retail price before any discounts we can negotiate. SO to answer your question how much your car would cost roughly between 80-85k AUD. I believe u all have more vehicle import tax or something.

"Quite a lot of options were already selected by the BMW distributor - priced at S$215,000. I added Sport line, Lumbar support, HK system, front PDC & rear camera for another almost S$7,000. Total just a sliver under S$222k (about AUD171k, Euro135k, USD176k)."

Back to the topic .. has anyone else experienced order delays?
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indeed but oh well!
I'm gonna be having a stern word either over the phone or in person next week. Tuesday or Wednesday probably. If they offer a decent loaner to tide me over, I won't be AS bothered. I'm not gonna be happy with a 116i though. I'd take the equivilant d but the 16i (and 18i) seriously wound me up. You have to rev the nuts off them to move them anywhere and even then, they still don't move!! Very very uneconomical and an embarrassment to the BMW brand. This was the old 1er though, the F20 may be a different story. Other than that, I'd love a 1er! I'd bite their hand off at a 120d!!
Anyway, we'll see how it goes and I'll let you know. As I said earlier, I still need "confirmation" of the delay.
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Each market is given an allotment of a months total production of the BMW network. The market then divides that number amongst it's dealer network based on a proprietary formula (each market is different). That dealer then has that many units of that model each with a specific production slot. Smaller markets have less allocations, dealers get leas product.

That is how allocations work. You may walk into a dealer in February and their next available build is not until June- go to a different dealer and they have a build next week. A dealer also wants to capitalize on each slot so could someone outbid for an earlier build- yes it happens.

There is no N20 shortage. The OPs dealer doesn't have a build slot and is trying to prevent losing the sale.

With South Africa and Regensburg now online the 328i production is at full steam.
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I ordered my 328i in The Netherlands end of March. I've seen the official order by the dealer and it says:

Date Order: 30.03.2012
PW dealer: 18/05/2012
PW BMW NL: 18/05/2012
PW factory: 21/05/2012
LW prognosis: 23/06/2012

And the dealer told me delivery week would be week 25. So no real delays here it seems...
We also didn't have had any delays, took almost exactly 2 months for our N20 powered X1 to arrive.
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Ohh yes! I walk in and all the sales executives, including the most senior, greet me on first name terms! It's like another home they're so friendly and... normal! I always feel so welcome. I'm currently waiting upon a confirmation if my car is delayed, at the moment its just a likely possibility. Once I get confirmation, I will look to extend the lease on my 330d or if that's not possible, I'll be pushing for a loaner.
May ask about the VIN and order number next time I speak to them, cheers.
Why would you pay to extend your lease when it's the dealer's fault? Make them extend it the few extra weeks or tell them you'll walk away. If they refuse they will at least provide you with a loaner free of charge. Be firm!

And by the way I ordered my car about two weeks ago and there is no delay. I still have my May 20 estimated arrival date! Hopefully yours will work out
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glad I snapped up my sons when I saw it!!! I've never waited for a car, if they don't have it I don't buy it. I've never had a car that I've purchased new that wasn't sitting on a dealers lot.
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glad I snapped up my sons when I saw it!!! I've never waited for a car, if they don't have it I don't buy it. I've never had a car that I've purchased new that wasn't sitting on a dealers lot.
Why not?
It's probably worth the wait, and you get the car exactly as you want is (exterior, interior and all the options). Or is it just that Americans just doesn't care too much about that?
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glad I snapped up my sons when I saw it!!! I've never waited for a car, if they don't have it I don't buy it. I've never had a car that I've purchased new that wasn't sitting on a dealers lot.
Technically you don't buy it when it's not on the lot, you order it. Once it is on the lot, sign the paperwork and drive off with it, then you've bought it with it. Usually, the down payment is also refundable


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Why not?
It's probably worth the wait, and you get the car exactly as you want is (exterior, interior and all the options). Or is it just that Americans just doesn't care too much about that?
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It's true, though, for some reason people in the US want to just drive off the lot with a car rather than to wait for it for several months. I'm unsure where the impatience to wait comes from, but it's there.
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I'm impulsive. I'm very type-a, I hate when people waste time and I hate when people waste my time. Waiting for a car to be delivered would be the death of me. If it's on the lot, I'll buy it - if not I'll wait for it to be sitting there to buy it. When I'm sitting in the waiting room waiting for my car to be ready is how I make most of my deals, I get bored, walk around, see something I like and jump on it. With my M5 I had no intention of buying one, it was in the showroom and caught my eye. I had it out of the showroom before my other car was even ready..

My ex-wife used to hate it and she would try and control what and when I would do things - I used to have to consult with her and have her give suggestions, opinions and she would usually have the ultimate say, I blame her for the way I am :P
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I'm impulsive. I'm very type-a, I hate when people waste time and I hate when people waste my time. Waiting for a car to be delivered would be the death of me. If it's on the lot, I'll buy it - if not I'll wait for it to be sitting there to buy it. When I'm sitting in the waiting room waiting for my car to be ready is how I make most of my deals, I get bored, walk around, see something I like and jump on it. With my M5 I had no intention of buying one, it was in the showroom and caught my eye. I had it out of the showroom before my other car was even ready..

My ex-wife used to hate it and she would try and control what and when I would do things - I used to have to consult with her and have her give suggestions, opinions and she would usually have the ultimate say, I blame her for the way I am :P
I wouldn't complain at accidently buying a new M5!! How the other half live...
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glad I snapped up my sons when I saw it!!! I've never waited for a car, if they don't have it I don't buy it. I've never had a car that I've purchased new that wasn't sitting on a dealers lot.
If I did that then I could never do European Delivery, which I'm eagerly looking forward to (end of May, after 1st week of April order). I agree that the wait is borderline unbearable, but driving your brand new BMW across Europe will be worth every second.
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Righty, plan of action! Hopefully... if I have time tomorrow...

Ask for my 328i's VIN No. as E90Fleet suggested. If it is close to production, he will be able to produce it. If he can't, then heads are gonna roll!

And what are your thoughts to this idea: It's a bit of a long shot but how about I send a very nice email to Fisker, somehow asking them if they know of an N20 shortage, seeing as they will be using the N20 in its most potent 28i form as a generator to power their new Atlantic.
Worth a try or should I not bother?

Cheers for the help guys, much appreciated and I'll keep you updated how it all goes. Any more suggestions/knowledge - slam 'em in!
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I'm not emotionally attached to things I guess. Sure I like driving nice cars, who doesn't but I've had enough things ripped away from me to know what its like to have nothing. I started with nothing, then I had everything, then I went back to having nothing. I'm back to a comfortable life, my kids school is paid for their cars are paid for and they're taken care of.
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I just ordered mine 04/07/12 so we shall see if my dealer is gonna screw me over or not.... I held my ground on my price at $1000 over invoice and eventually they caved and asked me to order. I am planning on trying to get them down another $500 when I pick up and sign papers as I just gave them a deposit for now.
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I just ordered mine 04/07/12 so we shall see if my dealer is gonna screw me over or not.... I held my ground on my price at $1000 over invoice and eventually they caved and asked me to order. I am planning on trying to get them down another $500 when I pick up and sign papers as I just gave them a deposit for now.
Hmm, keep me posted!
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As some of you may have noticed, my 328i is expected to be delayed due to huge demand. The factory can keep up with making the car itself but I've found out there are a lack of 28i N20 motors because they are more popular than anticipated! My dealer says this is a global shortage so all orders for 328i's will be affected, as they have no engine to put in it!! He is trying his best to get me back on the scheduled date as my 330d goes on the 28th May, 2 days after I was supposed to pick up my 328i, so he will keep me updated, but looking most likely there will be a delay to the 14/06 time. I'll keep you updated too! Anyone else with 328i delays?

I blame Fisker! Their new "Atlantic" is using the N20 in 28i trim to charge the EV batteries!! :P
Hi,

In the UK also and I am having similar issues on delivery of my new 328i in Alpine White, it was ordered at the end of Jan and the lease company gave me an estimated delivery date of the w/c 10th of April (this week). I did think it was funny that I had not heard anything from them last week so I emailed them over the weekend and they got back to me with the bad news. Everything had been going great and then the Dealer got in contact to say that the date had slipped. Apparently the car is built ready to be sprayed but for sone unknown reason it is going to take them another 5 weeks to complete the build and get it shipped (now looking at the w/c 18th May. Sounds like someone is being fed false info along the lines, I have told the lease company that they need to get this resolved, my current (cough cough A4) has now had to be put onto a rolling contract until they can get it sorted. Not very happy either and there excuse sounds a little suspicious to me.
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Apparently the car is built ready to be sprayed but for sone unknown reason it is going to take them another 5 weeks to complete the build and get it shipped (now looking at the w/c 18th May. Sounds like someone is being fed false info along the lines,
They dont keep unpainted bodies other than in the buffer holding area and there its only a few hours.
The body is also only allocated a VIN number when it goes into final assembly, so after painting. ( They can re-allocate a body at any time to any VIN before final assembly starts)

The whole process from first weld to the car being driven out the factory takes around 48Hours, which includes built in buffer hold times of up to 12 hours at a time. ( After paint buffer is usually the longest)

I know E90 that went into production on a Monday, finished on the Tuesday, sent to the dealer on Wednesday, got Tint , Tracking system install and final dealer Inspection on Thursday and owners picked them up first thing Friday morning
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Apparently the car is built ready to be sprayed but for sone unknown reason it is going to take them another 5 weeks to complete the build and get it shipped (now looking at the w/c 18th May. Sounds like someone is being fed false info along the lines,
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They dont keep unpainted bodies other than in the buffer holding area and there its only a few hours.
The body is also only allocated a VIN number when it goes into final assembly, so after painting. ( They can re-allocate a body at any time to any VIN before final assembly starts)

The whole process from first weld to the car being driven out the factory takes around 48Hours, which includes built in buffer hold times of up to 12 hours at a time. ( After paint buffer is usually the longest)

I know E90 that went into production on a Monday, finished on the Tuesday, sent to the dealer on Wednesday, got Tint , Tracking system install and final dealer Inspection on Thursday and owners picked them up first thing Friday morning
Thanks E90Fleet,

I thought something didn't sound right, so I'll push them for the truth now, I can't tell why they would make something up like that and I can't imagine what the delay is either.

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