[matt_320d]

So, I'm about to buy a 640d GC which is lovely except it's got 20" wheels and I HATE big wheels.

There is another 640d GC with the same dealer at their other branch which doesn't have as good as spec, and has 19" wheels...

Both are "delivery milage" cars...around 60miles on the clock for both.

Who thinks I could persaude the dealer to swap the wheels over?

Seems a "win" to me all round...I get the wheels I want, the other car actually gets a "free" upgrade from 19" to 20" wheels...

Suggesting it to the dealer..who thinks they will bite?

[KCH1984]

I was looking to do the same on my newly acquired X5 - the dealer was initially receptive of the idea but the computer said 'no' when it came to the PCP. Maybe different between new and used, but the new car order on which my PCP was being provided had the wheels listed and the car would need to be returned with them. There might also have been a GFV effect.

If yours is technically approved used then they can possibly alter things without the same hassle?

[Sasquartch]

Im sure if you say the deal depends on it they'll find a way

[NotGotABimmer23]

Or sell the 20s and buy some 19s making a few quid in the process.

[matt_320d]

Originally Posted by kylemacca01

Or sell the 20s and buy some 19s making a few quid in the process.

Problem is it's my only car. I don't know how much I'd get on E-bay or how I'd do that swap over...

[matt_320d]

Originally Posted by KCH1984

I was looking to do the same on my newly acquired X5 - the dealer was initially receptive of the idea but the computer said 'no' when it came to the PCP. Maybe different between new and used, but the new car order on which my PCP was being provided had the wheels listed and the car would need to be returned with them. There might also have been a GFV effect.

If yours is technically approved used then they can possibly alter things without the same hassle?

Yes, it's a delivery milage, pre registered car, so technically used...

hopefully that's ok with the PCP...?

[KCH1984]

Originally Posted by matt_320d

Yes, it's a delivery milage, pre registered car, so technically used...

hopefully that's ok with the PCP...?

Not sure mate - does the sales documentation list out the options on the car? On a PCP my concern would be that your chassis no. would give any collecting agent at the end of the deal the list of options that the car should be returned with. I get people change grilles etc on PCP cars but I wouldn't want to be pulled up or face a bill for missing 20" wheels.

Assuming you're not on the hook, Kyle above is right. Maybe easier to buy a set of 19s and then look to recoup your cost by listing your 20s once changed over.

[teaston]

Does 1 inch really make that much difference? :

[matt_320d]

Originally Posted by teaston

Does 1 inch really make that much difference? :

Depends on the context

I'm going by my experience of swapping 19" to 18" on my 330d which at a stroke made the car significantly better. In the first year of being on the 18" I broke two wheels and had three new tyres. Since switching to 18" wheels - the car feels better and no wheel problems...

Looking around the forums, many report ride issues on 20" wheels for the 6 series and several broken wheels...not seen any probs reported on the 19".

Honestly don't understand the oversize wheel thing.

[teaston]

Originally Posted by matt_320d

Depends on the context

I'm going by my experience of swapping 19" to 18" on my 330d which at a stroke made the car significantly better. In the first year of being on the 18" I broke two wheels and had three new tyres. Since switching to 18" wheels - the car feels better and no wheel problems...

Looking around the forums, many report ride issues on 20" wheels for the 6 series and several broken wheels...not seen any probs reported on the 19".

Honestly don't understand the oversize wheel thing.

I think that's more a run flat tyre problem. Swap to non run flats and have the best of both worlds!

Anything smaller than 20" looks too small on a 6GC.

[dopper99]

Originally Posted by teaston

Does 1 inch really make that much difference? :

I'm sure it does to some.

Lobb will know.

[teaston]

Originally Posted by dopper99

I'm sure it does to some.

Lobb will know.

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[ep22jg]

I did this on an Audi S4 a few years back. Dealer agreed straight away!
If it makes the sale?!

[matt_320d]

Originally Posted by LobB

Trust your getting 40% + discount on list

List price £74k paying £39k

Actually wanted a 435d GC but the 640d GC worked out cheaper...so,why not?

[teaston]

Originally Posted by matt_320d

List price £74k paying £39k

Actually wanted a 435d GC but the 640d GC worked out cheaper...so,why not?

Because it's heavier, slower, difficult to park and only RWD? :

[isleaiw1]

Originally Posted by teaston

Because it's heavier, slower, difficult to park and only RWD? :

And much better inside, less common, better looking, more refined, and has decent suspension from the factory?

[teaston]

Originally Posted by isleaiw1

And much better inside, less common, better looking, more refined, and has decent suspension from the factory?

True. I still think the 435d will handle much better even with it's SE suspension though.

[isleaiw1]

Originally Posted by teaston

True. I still think the 435d will handle much better even with it's SE suspension though.

Maybe - but I would rather waft along in a 640 than tear along in a 435 - we all want different things, that’s why there is a choice...

Obviously I would choose an S5 sportback over both

[JNW1]

Originally Posted by matt_320d

List price £74k paying £39k

Actually wanted a 435d GC but the 640d GC worked out cheaper...so,why not?

At £74k a 640d GC strikes me as crazy bonkers but at a little over half that I can see where you're coming from!

As others have said, a far nicer interior and much more refined than a 435d so for motorway munching it's almost certainly a far better tool for the job. The main downside for me is they're the size of an aircraft carrier but depending on how you're going to use it - and where you're going to park it - that might not be a problem.

Good luck with it all, be interested to see some pics once you've taken delivery!

[Hooded]

Originally Posted by JNW1

At £74k a 640d GC strikes me as crazy bonkers but at a little over half that I can see where you're coming from!

As others have said, a far nicer interior and much more refined than a 435d so for motorway munching it's almost certainly a far better tool for the job. The main downside for me is they're the size of an aircraft carrier but depending on how you're going to use it - and where you're going to park it - that might not be a problem.

Good luck with it all, be interested to see some pics once you've taken delivery!

Agree about the size .. for me it's just too big for some of the narrow UK roads in town and certain tight car parks (the F30 is hard enough to manoeuvre on our vets small car park for example).

For motorway and dual carriageways though Great

[matt_320d]

Originally Posted by JNW1

At £74k a 640d GC strikes me as crazy bonkers but at a little over half that I can see where you're coming from!

As others have said, a far nicer interior and much more refined than a 435d so for motorway munching it's almost certainly a far better tool for the job. The main downside for me is they're the size of an aircraft carrier but depending on how you're going to use it - and where you're going to park it - that might not be a problem.

Good luck with it all, be interested to see some pics once you've taken delivery!

Agree, I'm a couple of days in, and I would say it's a lovely car, but £74k? Reaaally? did anyone EVER pay that kind of money?

I would say everything is just a "bit" nicer than in a 3/4 series. It's a bit quieter, it's a bit more refined, the interior is a bit nicer...

How that possibly adds up to £74k I do not know, but with the reductions taking it down to 3/4 series money, suddenly it's a different prospect.

I agree about the size comments up to a point. The reality is that actually driving in on a normal road, the size is no real issue, it justgets a bit scary on narrow roads and car parks. I don't ever drive in London...wouldn't want to take it there I have to say!

Also might yet find RWD is annoying, having got so used to the X-drive in my 330D...especially come the winter, but for the moment, it's fine.

[chris-c]

£74k isnt really a mega step up. My F31 in its current trim was £54k list. Add on the posh leather seats (£3.5k), HUD + Adaptive cruise (£1.5k), heated rear seats (£.5k), posh dash and thats and extra (£.5k) and you're looking at £60k for a F31.

Add in a fancy paint code and that's a couple of grand more taking you to low 60's.

Sure insulation and other refinement doesn't cost the difference but they'll sure charge for it. The car WILL be quieter than the 3 series. The car will have nicer materials than the 3 series.

They also add on a bit extra just to make it that bit more premium