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      12-26-2013, 03:00 PM   #67
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Or just don't offer a 428i. Make the base engine the 35i and offer the 35d.
I would make the PPK standard on the 435GC to make it sound like a higher spec engine to justify the extra couple of grand over the F32 lol.
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Yes Carbon Black on the 4 GC that i'vee seen!
With shadowline and oyster leather it s very nice combo!
That would be very cool!
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      12-26-2013, 03:05 PM   #69
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What the heck is the difference between that and a regular 3 series? BMW is gone off the deep end!
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      12-26-2013, 03:12 PM   #70
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      12-26-2013, 03:25 PM   #71
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I'm telling you: first, this 4 door 4-series Grand Coupe. Next, a brand new and unheard of 2 door 3-series Coupe

I smell big sales!
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      12-26-2013, 03:31 PM   #72
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thanks for adding some rationality to the whining..
+1. Thanks. The usual uninformed whining about anything new is really boring to read...

I don't know how many cars BMW sells in China. But I for one think that even in the US or Europe the market share of the non-traditional models (GT, GC, etc.) won't be unsubstantial. BMW has been bolder than its competitors in this regard, and that will likely pay off in the longer-term.
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      12-26-2013, 03:44 PM   #73
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This is so similar to 3GT. I'm truly surprised BMW wants to have two cars that are so similar. Most of the general public will not be able to tell between 3GT and 4GC. Only true enthusiasts will be able to spot the differences.
The interesting and thus far unanswered question is: will the GC have the long wheelbase of the 3GT or not. The German car magazines have reported conflicting information about this. Many people don't know how much bigger the F34 is compared to the F30/F31. If the the 4GC is similarly large, it would really be close to the 5 series.
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      12-26-2013, 03:49 PM   #74
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      12-26-2013, 03:54 PM   #75
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This is probably why BMW said they are not going to make a M4GC. The difference between a 5 series and 6 series GC is pretty large, so it made sense to have a M5 and M6GC, the price gap was pretty huge! But the 4 GC will probably be $4K-$5K more than a similar equiped 3 series and in full M form they would look very similar, so why have both? Although personally I would probably pay the $5K more for the M4GC, guess I get to use that money for something else now
I think so too! And would have been intrigued by a M4GC as well. But then the regular new M3 looks better than expected and doesn't leave much to be desired.
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      12-26-2013, 03:56 PM   #76
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For stay the first premium car maker worldwide BMW must explore all range of market
Except the E91M, F81, F11M, non-hatchback F34, non-hatchback M4 GC, E89M, F22M, and the F22M GC.

Those markets must remain unexplored.
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      12-26-2013, 04:15 PM   #77
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This car shamelessly surps the Gran Coup label. In fact is a 4 Gran Turismo.
True, the roofline isn't low like the 6gc it is high like the 5gt
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      12-26-2013, 04:21 PM   #78
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So it is a 4 door 4-series, or in other words a 3-series.

What is the point? I guess if it has a hatch rear trunk that will make it different. But the 6-series GC has a normal trunk lid.
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I think it looks very promising!
And make no mistake, whatever you(we) forum people may think of it, this car WILL sell! And it WILL look good! Wait till you see it for real before assuming its just like a 3Gt.
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BMW marketing = genius
BMW logic in car line ups now = ridiculously stupid

4 series is now the coupe oh wait lets make the 4GC...
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      12-26-2013, 05:44 PM   #81
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Yes it will have the 3GT's extended wheelbase.
No it will not have a hatch like the 5GT.
Yes it will cost less than a similarly equipped 5 series (but not much considering the 5 has standard navi).
But most important, it will look much sleeker than the 3 series - and they may have improved on look of the coupe's lower front bumper so Msport may not be a requirement! Now if I can just get past spending $52k+ and still not getting the 35i motor...
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      12-26-2013, 05:47 PM   #82
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I have to say I really don't see why this isn't just the 3er sedan.

All the best.
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I don't understand the marketing logic.

Why did we do 1,2,3,4,5,6,7

sedan 1,3,5,7
Coupe 2,4,6

Please keep it simple. It hard for you guys to keep the prices low on these cars if you keep making multiple low selling quantity variances.

Just a thought.
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      12-26-2013, 06:05 PM   #84
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Ugly 5GT, 3GT, 4GC ... etc ... Why BMW?

Bring M5 wagon, M3 wagon, supercar .... Something logic !
Words of wisdom!!!!!
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      12-26-2013, 06:54 PM   #85
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Ugly 5GT, 3GT, 4GC ... etc ... Why BMW?

Bring M5 wagon, M3 wagon, supercar .... Something logic !
+1

and also what is the difference between this and f30er to make people pay 6-7% more?
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True, the roofline isn't low like the 6gc it is high like the 5gt
No its actually much lower.
I remember it once was just a four door in the early stages but market demands caught up. The reveal will be in February for Geneva in March.
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Loving the 4GC so far. But then again, I am a big fan of the passat CC design, Mercedes CLS, Audi A7, ...
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      12-26-2013, 07:19 PM   #88
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