[rlesko]

Trying to code in a touch ecu + touch controller for my NBT Evo retrofit and I'm unable to flash the controller unit. E-Sys errors out when injecting a CAFD file to it, though it does work right now without touch capabilities (which leads me to believe it is wired correctly). I'll post the log from E-Sys below when attempting to inject a CAFD file and code

<Caf's suchen>
TAL calculation started.
Locally NCD signature calculation started
Processing ncd signing finished
TAL execution started.
<>
Read SVT before TAL execution started.
TAL execution started.
VCM Update: VCM-Update is deactivated. VCM will not be updated.
<run()-> Value of 'httpServerActivation': true>
<run()-> Value of 'isDeactivateHttp': false>
<MCDDiagService<id=84900, job=com.bmw.psdz.jobs.uds.MCD3_ReadFlashTimingPara meters, service=RDBI_FTP - ReadDataByIdentifier FlashTimingParameter, description=error: timeout, link=ZBE2_67_ETHERNET> [DIAGSERVICE]>
<[] use default timing parameters as an exception occured [WARN]>
<[] - [Exception - ZBE2 - 67] negative response error:
code: TIMEOUT P2/T2 occurred
description: P2 timeout on Service RDBI_FTP has error in result: [Severity=2051][ErrorCode=58640][ErrorCodeDescription=resource not available][VendorCode=2142][VendorCodeDescription=P2 timeout occured]; LinkName: ZBE2_67_ETHERNET
severity: ERROR
>
<ExecutionID=2023/12/27-15:38:27.861>
<[] prepareTALExecution started [PROGRESS]>
<[] prepareTALExecution finished [PROGRESS]>
<[] prepareVehicleForCoding started [PROGRESS]>
<[] prepareVehicleForCoding finished [PROGRESS]>
<MCDDiagService<id=46900, job=com.bmw.psdz.jobs.uds.MCD3_GetSVKfromECU, service=RDBI_SVK - ReadDataByIdentifier SVK, description=error: timeout, link=ZBE2_67_ETHERNET> [DIAGSERVICE]>
<MCDDiagService<id=46900, job=com.bmw.psdz.jobs.uds.MCD3_GetSVKfromECU, service=RDBI_SVK - ReadDataByIdentifier SVK, description=error: timeout, link=ZBE2_67_ETHERNET> [DIAGSERVICE]>
<MCDDiagService<id=46900, job=com.bmw.psdz.jobs.uds.MCD3_GetSVKfromECU, service=RDBI_SVK - ReadDataByIdentifier SVK, description=error: timeout, link=ZBE2_67_ETHERNET> [DIAGSERVICE]>
<[ZBE2 - 67] There was an error during TAL execution, please check the log files. [WARN]>
<[ZBE2 - 67] - [Exception - ZBE2 - 67] negative response error:
code: TIMEOUT P2/T2 occurred
description: P2 timeout on Service RDBI_SVK has error in result: [Severity=2051][ErrorCode=58640][ErrorCodeDescription=resource not available][VendorCode=2142][VendorCodeDescription=P2 timeout occured]; LinkName: ZBE2_67_ETHERNET
severity: ERROR
>
<[] null [THROWABLE]>
<[] finalizeVehicleCoding started [PROGRESS]>
<[] finalizeVehicleCoding finished [PROGRESS]>
<[] finalizeTALExecution started [PROGRESS]>
<[] finalizeTALExecution finished [PROGRESS]>
<TAL execution finished [TAL_EXECUTION_FINISHED]>
TAL-Execution finished with status: "FinishedWithError".
TAL execution finished. Duration: "12s".
<>
Read SVT after TAL execution started.
Read SVT after TAL execution finished.
TAL execution finished.

ISTA Also shows an error when I scan the car for faults
"No communication with control unit possible."

Any ideas?

[TheNine90]

Does the zbe appear in svt tree using read ECU button?

[mig2830]

When was your car produced, pre LCI or LCI?. The touch controler were introduced in the 2018 LCI production.

I note it says ZBE2 in the log. The touch controler should appear as ZBE4 or higher

[rlesko]

Originally Posted by TheNine90

Does the zbe appear in svt tree using read ECU button?

No

Originally Posted by mig2830

When was your car produced, pre LCI or LCI?. The touch controler were introduced in the 2018 LCI production.

I note it says ZBE2 in the log. The touch controler should appear as ZBE4 or higher

That is a good point, I didn't even realize that. It shouldn't be ZBE2, and I'm sure its not. My car is pre LCI but I retrofitted an NBT Evo with 03/18 zeitkriterium. I think someone on the bimmerfest forums had the same issue as me here. Involved updating 'VCM', whatever that means I guess I have some more googling to do. Thanks for the tip!

[TheNine90]

Make sure the wiring is done correctly. You can edit the SVT and manually add the zbe and write that svt to VCM.

[rlesko]

Originally Posted by TheNine90

Make sure the wiring is done correctly. You can edit the SVT and manually add the zbe and write that svt to VCM.

Can you point me to any documentation on how to do this? I’m sure it’s wired correctly, all the buttons work and the knob works.

[TheNine90]

Modify the fa zeitkriterium to match the zbe or nbtevo. Use it to calculate svt target with similar i level target. You should be able to get the ZBE in the SVT target. You can read your current svt from VCM and replace the zbe with the new zbe in svt target. You can use any text editor for that.

[Siki78]

Or vo code any module in car with tick settings in esys "update vcm after tal calculation"
I can help over teamviewer

[YASBBYM3]

Reading this thread people are confusing touchscreens (available 2018 MY) with Touch Controller (available late 2014 MY)

And wiring depends on F30 manufacture date, though if unit is working without touch, it does seem at very least controller is wired correctly.

[rlesko]

Originally Posted by TheNine90

Modify the fa zeitkriterium to match the zbe or nbtevo. Use it to calculate svt target with similar i level target. You should be able to get the ZBE in the SVT target. You can read your current svt from VCM and replace the zbe with the new zbe in svt target. You can use any text editor for that.

Ok so I tried and got stuck.

The zeitkriterium in the active FA is 0318.

If I "read VCM" under 'Expert Mode' -> 'Coding' it indicates ZBE2.

If I go to VCM -> Master -> Read SVT it still shows ZBE2.

I tried saving SVT Actual and opening it in 'Editors & Viewers' -> 'SVT Editor' and deleting ZBE2 entirely, but wasn't exactly sure how to proceed after that?

[TheNine90]

Both Svt target from VCM master and backup show zbe2?

[Siki78]

Originally Posted by rlesko

Ok so I tried and got stuck.

The zeitkriterium in the active FA is 0318.

If I "read VCM" under 'Expert Mode' -> 'Coding' it indicates ZBE2.

If I go to VCM -> Master -> Read SVT it still shows ZBE2.

I tried saving SVT Actual and opening it in 'Editors & Viewers' -> 'SVT Editor' and deleting ZBE2 entirely, but wasn't exactly sure how to proceed after that?

If you can connect now I can look over teamviewer. Write me pm

[rlesko]

Shout out to Siki78 he spent at least an hour on team viewer trying to help me debug. Some progress was made, ZBE4 shows up in the tree but still won’t accept coding. TBX doesn’t show up, wonder if the TBX is faulty? Will buy another TBX module and double check the Y splitter cable that both controller and TBX are sitting behind. But again, faulty wiring seems incredibly unlikely as there are only 4 wires going to controller and I’ve only changed two - the CAN2 high and low (ground and power are unchanged from original CAN1 connector). And if CAN2 was wrong then the controller would not work.

[Siki78]

Is your hu tbx and controller connect on this way? Check first this. Try to change Pin on controller maybe they Mix can high and low