[Jaguar]

Originally Posted by OverDriven

Trolls? Are you aware that beauty is subjective and people will (gasp!) hold different opinions than you?

I never made an opinion because the car has not be unveiled yet. I had two e92's so obviously I loved that design, but for people to submit judgment in the form of "fugly" or "e92 all day thx" or "BMW should listen to our opinions and make a car we want" before even seeing the finished result is exactly what I said before: Troll like behavior

[Frenk]

Please lets compare apple with apple ...



VS

[Frenk]

it basicly looks the same to msport lci e92

[B1N]

Originally Posted by Frenk

Please lets compare apple with apple ...

how is that comparing apple to apple, ure comparing a base f32 to a modded e92 (lowered, aftermark rims and m3 sideskirts....)

[Frenk]

Originally Posted by B1N

how is that comparing apple to apple, ure comparing a base f32 to a modded e92 (lowered, aftermark rims and m3 sideskirts....)

The fact that f32 is now a 4series, you can't compare directly both car with no option, it's not in the same range of car at all. F32 will have a similar price to msport e92 lci. There's no mods on this e92 except for the small drop. I think it's a fair comparaison.

This being said, yes the f32 looks better, but not by much.

[Toshi]

Originally Posted by Frenk

The fact that f32 is now a 4series, you can't compare directly both car with no option, it's not in the same range of car at all. F32 will have a similar price to msport e92 lci. There's no mods on this e92 except for the small drop. I think it's a fair comparaison.

[Pinkoboe]

Originally Posted by B1N

lol, you guys notice how most ppl with 12/13 e92 models say this?....maybe there is a hint of regret from their purchase.

No regrets whatsoever.

[Jaguar]

Originally Posted by Frenk

The fact that f32 is now a 4series, you can't compare directly both car with no option, it's not in the same range of car at all. F32 will have a similar price to msport e92 lci. There's no mods on this e92 except for the small drop. I think it's a fair comparaison.

This being said, yes the f32 looks better, but not by much.

The spread of disinformation continues, amazing.

[irianjim]

Originally Posted by B1N

I feel sorry for the people who bought 2012/2013 e92's, they will look dated next to this car once it rolls out next year....

Don't feel sorry for me! The F33 vert won't even be here until the end of the year earliest and I am driving my 2013 wiith the top down today. I can also guarantee that the cost will be more expensive for those who gotta have it as soon as it comes out. I feel more sorry for you having to pay higher Canadian prices.

As for the car, I don't think it looks better or worse, just evolutionary. No real surprises, it looks basically how I would expected a two door F30 to look. The real surprise is that it basically looks like the F30 with two doors. I thought there would be more of a difference with all the 4 series marketing talk. However, it looks like a worthy successor, but just not a major improvement in the looks department. (However, i will be interested in the 335 and the eight speed transmission with better gas mileage ) The F33 will be a beautiful car. however, the E93 will still look great next to the F33 when it gets here. I don't think it will look dated at all and only hard core BMW guys will be able to tell the difference, frankly.

As for me, I am happy to drive my E93 now and I will strongly consider the F33 when the time comes to replace it. I like it, but BMW will be very proud of it ($$) when it first comes out. When I am ready, prices will be rational by then and any bugs will be worked out.

It will be a great, good looking car.

[B1N]

Originally Posted by irianjim

Don't feel sorry for me! The F33 vert won't even be here until the end of the year earliest and I am driving my 2013 wiith the top down today. I can also guarantee that the cost will be more expensive for those who gotta have it as soon as it comes out. I feel more sorry for you having to pay higher Canadian prices.

As for the car, I don't think it looks better or worse, just evolutionary. No real surprises, it looks basically how I would expected a two door F30 to look. The real surprise is that it basically looks like the F30 with two doors. I thought there would be more of a difference with all the 4 series marketing talk. However, it looks like a worthy successor, but just not a major improvement in the looks department. (However, i will be interested in the 335 and the eight speed transmission with better gas mileage ) The F33 will be a beautiful car. however, the E93 will still look great next to the F33 when it gets here. I don't think it will look dated at all and only hard core BMW guys will be able to tell the difference, frankly.

As for me, I am happy to drive my E93 now and I will strongly consider the F33 when the time comes to replace it. I like it, but BMW will be very proud of it ($$) when it first comes out. When I am ready, prices will be rational by then and any bugs will be worked out.

It will be a great, good looking car.

I own a e93 as well and love the car! you are absolutely right, it will cost significantly more when it comes out, especially now that BMW is making it in a whole new `class`. Have you seen spyshots of the f33 by any chance? That side profile looks similiar to our e93 because the roof line looks like it barely changed. Where as the f32 is noticeably different in body shape to the e92 as the roof line is more sleek.

I guess I was referring more to the people saying the car is 'ugly' based on these camo spyshots..

AND yes, paying canadian prices does suck!



Cheers!

[B///MWGuy]

You guys all know why BMW's so conservative on their design... SO THEY COULD SELL LATER LCI MODELS BY MAKING THEM LOOK PRETTIER. They have to leave out certain design elements to look blunt so they could continue to sell for 6 years...Its too obvious by now.. I hope they change their strategy. Its quite annoying.

[yxjackxh]

Originally Posted by unit

No regrets whatsoever.

Lol not yet at least. Its not even out yet, just wait until the f32 is out and about a year in with all the m performance parts and mods, then you'll regret it and want to trade it in for the f32 trust me

Originally Posted by Frenk

The fact that f32 is now a 4series, you can't compare directly both car with no option, it's not in the same range of car at all. F32 will have a similar price to msport e92 lci. There's no mods on this e92 except for the small drop. I think it's a fair comparaison.

This being said, yes the f32 looks better, but not by much.

it is the same range of car, they are just changing the name of it. the price wont be that much of a difference, like 2-3k above the base price of the e92's. And its obviously modded with new wheels and m3 sideskirts. you cant compare a modded e92 against a camo f32 with no mods. You have to compare both stock. In person i bet it will look 100x better than the e92, especially msport. Cmon now its been 6-7 years... they cant expect to just make it look a little better, it will definitely make the e92 look outdated. Especially once m performance parts come out and other mods

[bmwaddict]

im pretty sure this f3x design will be timeless. e30, e46, and e9x have a timeless design. they always look fresh

[liang]

Originally Posted by Anodite10

Just look at this comparison. Clearly (in my opinion), the F32 eats the E92 all day long! The E92 looks soooooo dated and bland especially next to the F32. I liked the E92 before I saw this F32.

From the side, the F32 does look better.

HOWEVER, it is the front (aka the most important side on a car) that looks WAY too similar to the F30. This is just terrible.

This is just absurd considering BMW is positioning/differentiating the 4 series to be higher/different than the 3 series, YET they put out a front for the 4 series that is less differentiated than the e90 vs e92 front. FAIL.

[Toshi]

Not sold. I think recent BMW speaks different design language
Wait and see how the M-sport version looks.

[turbolag]

Hmm...


Camo'ed E92 didn't look nice.

[rxander]

Originally Posted by fyun89

You guys all know why BMW's so conservative on their design... SO THEY COULD SELL LATER LCI MODELS BY MAKING THEM LOOK PRETTIER. They have to leave out certain design elements to look blunt so they could continue to sell for 6 years...Its too obvious by now.. I hope they change their strategy. Its quite annoying.

This is so true. Just wait for LCI if you don't like this one.

[Alpine F31]

Originally Posted by Piotr74656

I find it intriguing that BMW created a 4 Series segment to distinguish the coupe from the sedan, yet the F32 couple resembles the F30 sedan more closely than the E92 coupe did the E90 sedan.

Totally agree.

[BMWRL]

I think the figure 8 opening of the front bumper just exposes too much plastic and that is what is turning people off. They should have kept the camo on this part of the car. It does looks awkward in this pic, They're really not any smaller than the openings on the concept.

[Transfer]

Originally Posted by eclipsisNA

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ha! I lol'd. Exactly what I was thinking.

[Kayani_1]

+1 the prototype looked good and edgy then just as I feared they made it plain boring.

The sad thing is some of the folks even here were criticizing the prototype as too edgy and wanted it a bit toned down. I guess they got their wish of boring toned down design.

As for those saying wait to see it in person. Yeah get what your are saying. But if these are the actual final versions that are about to go on sale. Then you have to be blind not to see that the design is dulled down boring version of the prototype.

Originally Posted by e92n54t

So disappointed... Wish BMW stayed with the original prototype that was at the car show.

[Vervain]

Originally Posted by Liang

From the side, the F32 does look better.

HOWEVER, it is the front (aka the most important side on a car) that looks WAY too similar to the F30. This is just terrible.

This is just absurd considering BMW is positioning/differentiating the 4 series to be higher/different than the 3 series, YET they put out a front for the 4 series that is less differentiated than the e90 vs e92 front. FAIL.

I completely agree with you. Even though the F32 does look good, the resemblance between it and the F30 is not acceptable. They certainly uniquely distinguished the rear though. It looks great.

But I don't get BMW anymore. The 2 series addition seems necessary due to it looking completely different to the 1 series hatch, but the 4 series addition is so redundant now since it's literally a F30 with 2 doors.

Also, what's up with the headlight meeting the the kidneys in some models, and then not doing it for the rest?

Originally Posted by RL530xit

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I think the figure 8 opening of the front bumper just exposes too much plastic and that is what is turning people off. They should have kept the camo on this part of the car. It does looks awkward in this pic, They're really not any smaller than the openings on the concept.

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Yes it's that gaping black hole that's turning everybody off! Back to my earlier suggestion - Wrap the black frame in the body colour and it should resemble the concept and also look muuuuuch better.