new downpipe thread 02/27/19

13blk335ix · 02-27-2019, 07:16 PM

Looking to get a catless downpipe. ive done plenty of research on the subject, used the search function etc. I made this thread for any new insight on downpipes. which is the highest flowing with the cleanest bends? how certain downpipes have held up over the years? any sound differences? I am considering the wagner because it looks the most like stock that I have seen. also because im most likely getting a wagner intercooler. then I'm looking at ER because I loved the quality of my CP. Especially the anodized black. then vrsf because of price and because it looks like it is one of the straightest pipes. I have a 2013 335ix 6mt build date 2/13. PWG. so that may limit the available options. I have seen the response "a pipe is a pipe before" I disagree. fitment and build quality. along with the shape i imagine plays a factor. please weigh in your experiance on the DP you have run. super excited to take the second to last step before bootmod3 stage 2. thanks guys.

Stopsign32v · 02-27-2019, 07:19 PM

Just pick one. They aren't that different and it's a short pipe.

Logicoeur · 02-27-2019, 08:01 PM

The shapes can't be too different else they all wouldn't be able to replace the same part. All of the brands available are fine. When you add the catted option you will run into quality issues. Some use better catalyst material than others. Most of not all will give you a CEL on stock tune unless it's the Fabspeed. If you are tuned it doesn't even matter. If you don't need to pass emissions it doesn't matter which DP you get they are all the same.

A pipe is a pipe.

alohasurftoad · 02-27-2019, 08:08 PM

this is what i'd get...

https://www.ctsturbo.com/product/cts...tic-wastegate/

13blk335ix · 02-27-2019, 11:42 PM

yes! cts is having a killer sale right now and I was wondering what people thought of the cts downpipe that bought it and installed it. because it looks high quality a d is only 237.00 right now

the dope steez · 02-28-2019, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by 13blk335ix

yes! cts is having a killer sale right now and I was wondering what people thought of the cts downpipe that bought it and installed it. because it looks high quality a d is only 237.00 right now

All day long... My CTS downpipe is perfect. 10/10 would recommend, great product for the price.

Stopsign32v · 02-28-2019, 10:24 AM

Isn't there one that is 4"?

Munchi435i · 02-28-2019, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Stopsign32v

Isn't there one that is 4"?

Yes its for those that have EWG.

3.5" for PWG

EDWYER · 02-28-2019, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Stopsign32v

Isn't there one that is 4"?

The 4" is on sale as well.

https://www.ctsturbo.com/product/cts...ric-wastegate/

Stopsign32v · 02-28-2019, 10:37 AM

That's sexy AF

ChristosD · 03-01-2019, 06:42 AM

I went with the ER dp the quality is amazing like a piece of art (i wanted to put it on my wall haha) sounds mental as well paired with the mpe.

13blk335ix · 03-01-2019, 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by ChristosD

I went with the ER dp the quality is amazing like a piece of art (i wanted to put it on my wall haha) sounds mental as well paired with the mpe.

dosnt sound mental to me! I wanted to do the same with my ER chargepipe!

Munchi435i · 03-01-2019, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by ChristosD

I went with the ER dp the quality is amazing like a piece of art (i wanted to put it on my wall haha) sounds mental as well paired with the mpe.

AGREED!!!!

Paired with the MPE... it sounds AMAZING!!!!

13blk335ix · 03-01-2019, 11:14 AM

what does the ER 3.5 PWG catless downpipe look like. Definitively. done search a bunch of times and the VRSF and CNT turbo 3.5 PWG catless downpipes look a lot alike. but the ER catless downpipe 3.5 PWG looks like a 4incher. and pics of the PWG catless downpipe?

Mike@N54Tuning.com · 03-01-2019, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Munchi435i

Yes its for those that have EWG.

3.5" for PWG

+1

4" flange is for 2014+

3.5" Flange is for 2012-2013 PWG cars

Mike

Mike@N54Tuning.com · 03-01-2019, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by 13blk335ix

what does the ER 3.5 PWG catless downpipe look like. Definitively. done search a bunch of times and the VRSF and CNT turbo 3.5 PWG catless downpipes look a lot alike. but the ER catless downpipe 3.5 PWG looks like a 4incher. and pics of the PWG catless downpipe?

The ER one is probably the largest internal volume pipe of all of the brands out there. Its a 4" body which will taper down to a 3.5" flange for the PWG cars.

Mike

13blk335ix · 03-01-2019, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike@N54Tuning.com

Quote:

Originally Posted by 13blk335ix

what does the ER 3.5 PWG catless downpipe look like. Definitively. done search a bunch of times and the VRSF and CNT turbo 3.5 PWG catless downpipes look a lot alike. but the ER catless downpipe 3.5 PWG looks like a 4incher. and pics of the PWG catless downpipe?

The ER one is probably the largest internal volume pipe of all of the brands out there. Its a 4" body which will taper down to a 3.5" flange for the PWG cars.

Mike

ok thanks for reply. is there added benefit to this? like added performance or sound or fitment? the bottom of the vrsf and cts look different than the ER as well. so how is fitment different?

13blk335ix · 03-01-2019, 01:50 PM

looked it up and extra bungs are for boost pressure and temps.

Logicoeur · 03-02-2019, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike@N54Tuning.com

Quote:

Originally Posted by 13blk335ix

what does the ER 3.5 PWG catless downpipe look like. Definitively. done search a bunch of times and the VRSF and CNT turbo 3.5 PWG catless downpipes look a lot alike. but the ER catless downpipe 3.5 PWG looks like a 4incher. and pics of the PWG catless downpipe?

The ER one is probably the largest internal volume pipe of all of the brands out there. Its a 4" body which will taper down to a 3.5" flange for the PWG cars.

Mike

Isn't the flange in question the inlet of the DP? Outlet is the same size as exhaust which is 3", regardless of the turbo.

aturk · 03-04-2019, 01:22 PM

I have the CTS downpipe on my car, quality looks basically the same as the ER downpipe listed above. Fits great, looks great, nothing more needs said.

At the end of the day, it's a stainless pipe, short, and not really going through much stress. AKA no flex sections, not supporting much weight, etc.

Once you put it on you're going to forget which company's downpipe you have on under the car.

I also have the CTS charge pipes, and CTS intake, and I love the whole combo of goodies. Plus if you buy everything at once you get a good deal.

mike@x-ph.com · 03-05-2019, 07:36 PM

VRSF, Wagner, AR or Evolution Racewerks will all fit like stock, offer the same gain

02-27-2019, 07:16 PM	#1
13blk335ix First Lieutenant 75 Rep 323 Posts Drives: 2013 BMW F30 N55 335ix 6mt Join Date: Feb 2019 Location: New York iTrader: (0) Garage List 2013 BMW 335ix [0.00]	new downpipe thread 02/27/19 Looking to get a catless downpipe. ive done plenty of research on the subject, used the search function etc. I made this thread for any new insight on downpipes. which is the highest flowing with the cleanest bends? how certain downpipes have held up over the years? any sound differences? I am considering the wagner because it looks the most like stock that I have seen. also because im most likely getting a wagner intercooler. then I'm looking at ER because I loved the quality of my CP. Especially the anodized black. then vrsf because of price and because it looks like it is one of the straightest pipes. I have a 2013 335ix 6mt build date 2/13. PWG. so that may limit the available options. I have seen the response "a pipe is a pipe before" I disagree. fitment and build quality. along with the shape i imagine plays a factor. please weigh in your experiance on the DP you have run. super excited to take the second to last step before bootmod3 stage 2. thanks guys.
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Logicoeur Lieutenant Colonel 990 Rep 1,934 Posts Drives: F30 335i xDrive Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: Boston iTrader: (0)	The shapes can't be too different else they all wouldn't be able to replace the same part. All of the brands available are fine. When you add the catted option you will run into quality issues. Some use better catalyst material than others. Most of not all will give you a CEL on stock tune unless it's the Fabspeed. If you are tuned it doesn't even matter. If you don't need to pass emissions it doesn't matter which DP you get they are all the same. A pipe is a pipe. __________________ F30 335iX \| Remus Axleback \| Fabspeed Catted DP \| VRSF Comp IC \| 18X9 ET35 19lb MT1 \| 255/40/18 ECS \| Ohlins RT Millway Street \| Millway Control Arm Bushings \| Turner Endlinks \| TMH 75mm 14x1.5 Studs \| BMW MPerf LSD \| XDelete \| Pipercross Filter \| MHD Stg2 93
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03-01-2019, 06:42 AM	#11
ChristosD First Lieutenant 97 Rep 373 Posts Drives: m135i Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: Durban iTrader: (0)	I went with the ER dp the quality is amazing like a piece of art (i wanted to put it on my wall haha) sounds mental as well paired with the mpe. Attached Images __________________ '14 F20 M135i EWG FBO:// INJEN INTAKE // PURE INLET// TURBOSMART BOV DUAL PORT // //CSF INTERCOOLER // ER CP // SNOW S2.5 METH KIT // B58TU HPFP // NGK 97506 // ER DP // TMSS MID PIPE //MPE // MPBBK // UR STRUT BRACE // BM3 CUSTOM JORDAN E85 TUNE // XHP STAGE 3 //
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13blk335ix First Lieutenant 75 Rep 323 Posts Drives: 2013 BMW F30 N55 335ix 6mt Join Date: Feb 2019 Location: New York iTrader: (0) Garage List 2013 BMW 335ix [0.00]	what does the ER 3.5 PWG catless downpipe look like. Definitively. done search a bunch of times and the VRSF and CNT turbo 3.5 PWG catless downpipes look a lot alike. but the ER catless downpipe 3.5 PWG looks like a 4incher. and pics of the PWG catless downpipe?
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aturk Private First Class 42 Rep 115 Posts Drives: 2014 BMW M235i Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Charlotte, NC iTrader: (0)	I have the CTS downpipe on my car, quality looks basically the same as the ER downpipe listed above. Fits great, looks great, nothing more needs said. At the end of the day, it's a stainless pipe, short, and not really going through much stress. AKA no flex sections, not supporting much weight, etc. Once you put it on you're going to forget which company's downpipe you have on under the car. I also have the CTS charge pipes, and CTS intake, and I love the whole combo of goodies. Plus if you buy everything at once you get a good deal. __________________ 2014 M235i
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