[skier_du]

Originally Posted by FaRKle!

The OE tension strut bushings' bolt hole is absolutely offset from the center of the bushing. It's not a huge offset, but it's there. I've measured it myself.

You're probably right. I never measured the ones that came on the car. When I saw the bushings that where originally in the arms that VAC sourced, while developing these, they didn't look offset.

[skier_du]

Originally Posted by eleven11

Good stuff.

I have an F31 with xDrive, so I'm excited to see this product being developed. I have limited experience/knowledge with the nuances of these parts, but I'd like to tighten up my wheel-to-wheel response lag. For a non-tracked daily driver, what's the downside when switching to these (maintenance, etc.)? If it matters, I'm dropped on KW DDC coilovers. Thanks!

There's not really any maintenance. The mono balls on these are oem sealed bushings. Granted I don't know what oem, but they are sourced from a company that makes oem bushings. Most likely they'll last longer than you own the car.
Regarding maintenance and downsides; if you read my posts and the ones from the others, other than a little more NVH, there's not much of a downside. Personally, I didn't hear much more noise, maybe a little on some rough surfaces. Mostly just more feeling through the steering wheel. If you can live with that, it's a transformative part for your car.

[eleven11]

Originally Posted by skier_du

There's not really any maintenance...

Awesome. Thanks for the reply.

[therealm3]

Originally Posted by skier_du

There's not really any maintenance. The mono balls on these are oem sealed bushings. Granted I don't know what oem, but they are sourced from a company that makes oem bushings. Most likely they'll last longer than you own the car.
Regarding maintenance and downsides; if you read my posts and the ones from the others, other than a little more NVH, there's not much of a downside. Personally, I didn't hear much more noise, maybe a little on some rough surfaces. Mostly just more feeling through the steering wheel. If you can live with that, it's a transformative part for your car.

Has VAC started selling these or are they still beta/prototype testing?

[skier_du]

Originally Posted by therealm3

Has VAC started selling these or are they still beta/prototype testing?

Not sure if they're listed on their site yet, but if you ask for it they'll definitely sell them to you.
Happy Holidays!!

[pkiledj]

Just ordered the Millway monoballs, will report back!

[pkiledj]

Millway X-Drive monoballs came in!

[Insane435]

Originally Posted by pkiledj

Millway X-Drive monoballs came in!

How are you going to pop those into the arm?

[pkiledj]

Originally Posted by Insane435

How are you going to pop those into the arm?

I don't get the question, just press them in with a press.

[casualDIYer]

Originally Posted by pkiledj

I don't get the question, just press them in with a press.

Little late to the party here but are those Millway control arm bushings for the front straight control arms or for the 'wavy' thrust arms? You might think "If it's called a control arm bushing it's for the control arm, not thrust arm." But look around and you will find someone claiming they inserted these bushings into the thrust arm. Look around even more and find people calling the thrust arm the upper control arm or upper wishbone (which is odd since wishbones are for a different type of suspension, not MacPherson Strut type suspensions, the type used in the F30).

Even better, the bushing size is different for the thrust and control arm. Imagine pulling off the wrong arm to discover the size difference.

Sure would be nice to get confirmation the control arm bushings are for the straight shaped lower front control arm.

Thanks in advance.

[Watsey]

The Millway sealed monoball bushes are currently only for the tension struts - see item 6 in the attached diagram. Millway does not yet have a bush for the wishbones.

[casualDIYer]

Originally Posted by Watsey

The Millway sealed monoball bushes are currently only for the tension struts - see item 6 in the attached diagram. Millway does not yet have a bush for the wishbones.

Maybe this is just plain Swedish practicality. In my experience of 3 previous BMWs (two 3 and one 2) the foremost body side control arm bushing is prone to failure first. Even on the single wishbone of the e46, it was the front bushing that died, then the hub side bushing. The rear bushing never failed on my car. On F30 #1, 'fatty' the thrust arm, body side bushing, started getting chewed up. Of course, the diagnosis was that two entire control arms (left and right) and 4 bushings needed to be binned. One busted part killed 3 good parts and 1 credit card. Entire economies are supported on throwing working car parts in the trash.

Good old BMW. Wants to sell me a USD$1500 'performance' steering wheel for my xDrive, but won't sell me two monoballs bushings from their M car line plus a couple of spacers to make them fit.

Lovely.

I didn't see too many reviews on the Millway bushings. Are you using them? If yes, how do you find them? I am considering the street bushing as I prefer not to chatter my teeth to dust. Then I'll need dentures or implants and have to put back the OE parts.

[Watsey]

Originally Posted by menncars

Maybe this is just plain Swedish practicality. In my experience of 3 previous BMWs (two 3 and one 2) the foremost body side control arm bushing is prone to failure first. Even on the single wishbone of the e46, it was the front bushing that died, then the hub side bushing. The rear bushing never failed on my car. On F30 #1, 'fatty' the thrust arm, body side bushing, started getting chewed up. Of course, the diagnosis was that two entire control arms (left and right) and 4 bushings needed to be binned. One busted part killed 3 good parts and 1 credit card. Entire economies are supported on throwing working car parts in the trash.

Good old BMW. Wants to sell me a USD$1500 'performance' steering wheel for my xDrive, but won't sell me two monoballs bushings from their M car line plus a couple of spacers to make them fit.

Lovely.

I didn't see too many reviews on the Millway bushings. Are you using them? If yes, how do you find them? I am considering the street bushing as I prefer not to chatter my teeth to dust. Then I'll need dentures or implants and have to put back the OE parts.

In terms of bushes my car is currently running SuperPro poly bushes in the radius arms (the 'bendy' arms) and its new sealed monoball bushes in the lower control arms (a.k.a. wishbones). The SuperPro LCAs and bushes will be coming off the car as they are not suitable for the F3X even though SuperPro is marketing them as such.

I'm going to do a more in-depth review of SuperPro components on my car, as I've not been impressed. That said, the poly bushes in the radius arms have lasted a few years and have not worn.

I've had quite a bit of contact with Samuel at Millway over the past couple of years regarding its camber plates (a long, but positive, story) and he emailed me to let me know that he'd see my reply back to you clarifying where the current Millway sealed bushes are used.

Millway is now developing a sealed bush for use in the lower control arms, which I will get fitted when they are released for sale.

The sloppy OEM hydro bushes (required due to the need for significant isolation of the NVH generated by the runflat tyres) rob the chassis and steering of precision and feel. The benefits of re-bushing the front suspension far outweighs the increased firmness of the suspension on these cars. I far prefer the feeling of tautness - with a good suspension setup (i.e. including decent coilovers) it's not jarring.

Just my opinion, of course.

[gameson]

For RWD, how would you rate the quality of vac monoballs LCA vs BMW F8x LCA which i believe is also monoballs?

Thanks.