Is it just me or is Apple Car Play crap...

S111SYA · 08-17-2018, 05:01 AM

Im assuming this has been covered numerous times before but, put bluntly, in my opinion, Apple car play is crap.

I spec'd it against some of the advice I had read on this forum as it was only £250 ish and it looked alright, I read the blurb on it and it seemed pretty good so went for it.

Problem is, it just doesn't work very well, it's rubbish for messages, almost every time i use it i'm told there has been a problem and I should try again later, if i ask it to read my unread messages it reads one and forgets the rest.

The WhatsApp integration is rubbish, if i ask it to send a message to my Mrs it goes through every single group she is included in, and then won't let me pick one. If someone has sent an image with some words, it just says 'image', nothing else.

It sporadically comes up with a blank screen, it disconnects itself whenever it wants and is just generally poor in operation.

I have a couple of my numerical shortcut keys programmed to call my Mrs or my office and they have now stopped working for phone numbers (Still work for nav destinations) which i'm assuming is linked to car play.

If it worked the way it should it would be a decent thing but it just doesn't.

Is it worth taking it in for a look at the dealership?

I don't think i'm just moaning for the sake of it here, it really does seem shit.

Im considering deactivating it and just using the standard idrive stuff.

sahajesh · 08-17-2018, 05:21 AM

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Originally Posted by S111SYA

Im assuming this has been covered numerous times before but, put bluntly, in my opinion, Apple car play is crap.

I spec'd it against some of the advice I had read on this forum as it was only £250 ish and it looked alright, I read the blurb on it and it seemed pretty good so went for it.

Problem is, it just doesn't work very well, it's rubbish for messages, almost every time i use it i'm told there has been a problem and I should try again later, if i ask it to read my unread messages it reads one and forgets the rest.

The WhatsApp integration is rubbish, if i ask it to send a message to my Mrs it goes through every single group she is included in, and then won't let me pick one. If someone has sent an image with some words, it just says 'image', nothing else.

It sporadically comes up with a blank screen, it disconnects itself whenever it wants and is just generally poor in operation.

I have a couple of my numerical shortcut keys programmed to call my Mrs or my office and they have now stopped working for phone numbers (Still work for nav destinations) which i'm assuming is linked to car play.

If it worked the way it should it would be a decent thing but it just doesn't.

Is it worth taking it in for a look at the dealership?

I don't think i'm just moaning for the sake of it here, it really does seem shit.

Im considering deactivating it and just using the standard idrive stuff.

Agree re WhatsApp, their app is pretty shite for CarPlay functionality.

I'd recommend an iDrive software update (dealer only though) as it sorted out my issues.

teaston · 08-17-2018, 05:25 AM

I had it for a day in a courtesy car, I didn't have any technical issues but it was still shit!

Much better to have your phone mounted on the dash and use it direct!

MarkG_M5Comp · 08-17-2018, 05:33 AM

My car came with it (I didn't choose it) and I wasn't holding out much hope.

But now it's all I use - it all works seamlessly for me and I'm really surprised when I read these threads. Even more reliable than the previous Online Entertainment subscription I had in the old car which seems to flake out every few days.

Apple Music is spot on - including searching for stuff. Phone calls and texts are fine and I can even have WhatsApp messages read out (I tend not to send messages as I only use WhatsApp for groups which can normally wait).

I wonder if it's a version or specific phone thing. I have a 2016 ID5 with an iPhone 7+

sahajesh · 08-17-2018, 05:37 AM

Most of the people that moan about it are probably happy to use a stick-on phone and Waze.

I had problems with CarPlay initially but they were fixed via an iDrive software update and now, I wouldn't be without it.

You can use Apple Maps or iDrive for nav and shortly also be able to use Google Maps and Waze on CarPlay too.

MarkG_M5Comp · 08-17-2018, 05:39 AM

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Originally Posted by sahajesh

Most of the people that moan about it are probably happy to use a stick-on phone and Waze.

I had problems with CarPlay initially but they were fixed via an iDrive software update and now, I wouldn't be without it.

You can use Apple Maps or iDrive for nav and shortly also be able to use Google Maps and Waze on CarPlay too.

The maps thing is great actually.... look something up on your phone and select the icon to navigate with BMW Nav. Perfect.

sahajesh · 08-17-2018, 05:41 AM

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Originally Posted by MarkG_M3CP

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Originally Posted by sahajesh

Most of the people that moan about it are probably happy to use a stick-on phone and Waze.

I had problems with CarPlay initially but they were fixed via an iDrive software update and now, I wouldn't be without it.

You can use Apple Maps or iDrive for nav and shortly also be able to use Google Maps and Waze on CarPlay too.

The maps thing is great actually.... look something up on your phone and select the icon to navigate with BMW Nav. Perfect.

Yeah forgot to add that - Apple Maps will send the destination to iDrive maps

Being able to dictate and have iMessages read back is good, where it does fail sometimes is Siri not being able to understand what's being said.

x-m4n · 08-17-2018, 05:56 AM

I retrofited Carplay - the box works great but Carplay itself while not perfect still has far better Spotify, Traffic, Maps, REMAINING TIME TO DESTINANTION integration than whatever BMW could ever ship with my car. Google Maps and Waze coming soon to Carplay will only make it better.

See if the dealer can upgrade your system but sounds like some issues might just be how Carplay is meant to "work".

SkyJawa · 08-17-2018, 07:53 AM

Its shit. Might be better when Waze is included when IOS 12 comes along

aquazi · 08-17-2018, 08:16 AM

Yeah i think its crap.... not integrated very well.... carplay maps, separate from nav maps etc.

Even with ios12 with waze access will be just as much as a waste imo.

DaveH28 · 08-17-2018, 08:21 AM

For me the idrive is superb as it is, very well integrated into the car..
CarPlay has its place, but personally for retrofitting to older cars and maybe cars without a very good infotainment system...
I have been using ford sync 2 in our 66 plate focus and it's nowhere near what VW were putting out in Passats in 2007..
I would deffo choose CarPlay,
But the development that goes into the idrive far outweighs a one size fits all CarPlay Solution.

JustChris · 08-17-2018, 08:51 AM

Assume the touch screen works on the BMW version if you're ID6?

ByTheSea · 08-17-2018, 09:39 AM

New car, not happy? Back to the dealer. Tell them firmly it's not to your satisfaction and you'd like their help in clearing this up.

Soul_Glo · 08-18-2018, 12:00 AM

Question. With car play. Can I use google maps off my phone with the iDrive screen?

sahajesh · 08-18-2018, 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Surg_Capt_R

Question. With car play. Can I use google maps off my phone with the iDrive screen?

iOS 12 allows this, with an update to the Google Maps app - give it 4-6 weeks and it should all be available.

08-17-2018, 05:01 AM	#1
S111SYA Private First Class 85 Rep 105 Posts Drives: F30 320dM Sport Shadow Edition Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Yorkshire iTrader: (0)	Is it just me or is Apple Car Play crap... Im assuming this has been covered numerous times before but, put bluntly, in my opinion, Apple car play is crap. I spec'd it against some of the advice I had read on this forum as it was only £250 ish and it looked alright, I read the blurb on it and it seemed pretty good so went for it. Problem is, it just doesn't work very well, it's rubbish for messages, almost every time i use it i'm told there has been a problem and I should try again later, if i ask it to read my unread messages it reads one and forgets the rest. The WhatsApp integration is rubbish, if i ask it to send a message to my Mrs it goes through every single group she is included in, and then won't let me pick one. If someone has sent an image with some words, it just says 'image', nothing else. It sporadically comes up with a blank screen, it disconnects itself whenever it wants and is just generally poor in operation. I have a couple of my numerical shortcut keys programmed to call my Mrs or my office and they have now stopped working for phone numbers (Still work for nav destinations) which i'm assuming is linked to car play. If it worked the way it should it would be a decent thing but it just doesn't. Is it worth taking it in for a look at the dealership? I don't think i'm just moaning for the sake of it here, it really does seem shit. Im considering deactivating it and just using the standard idrive stuff.
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teaston Banned 10995 Rep 32,881 Posts Drives: X3 M40d Join Date: May 2012 Location: The High Seas iTrader: (1)	I had it for a day in a courtesy car, I didn't have any technical issues but it was still shit! Much better to have your phone mounted on the dash and use it direct!
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MarkG_M5Comp Supreme Being 1804 Rep 5,425 Posts Drives: M5 Comp Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Hampshire, UK iTrader: (0)	My car came with it (I didn't choose it) and I wasn't holding out much hope. But now it's all I use - it all works seamlessly for me and I'm really surprised when I read these threads. Even more reliable than the previous Online Entertainment subscription I had in the old car which seems to flake out every few days. Apple Music is spot on - including searching for stuff. Phone calls and texts are fine and I can even have WhatsApp messages read out (I tend not to send messages as I only use WhatsApp for groups which can normally wait). I wonder if it's a version or specific phone thing. I have a 2016 ID5 with an iPhone 7+ __________________ Current: F90 M5 Competition Gone: F80 M3 Competition Pack / M135i / F15 X5 M50d / Saab 9-5 Aero HOT / F30 335d xDrive M Sport / E92 LCI 320d M Sport / E46 320d M Sport Touring / E46 318i Touring
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sahajesh Brigadier General 2294 Rep 4,451 Posts Drives: 2021 G05 X5 40i Tanzanite Blue Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Sheffield, UK iTrader: (0)	Most of the people that moan about it are probably happy to use a stick-on phone and Waze. I had problems with CarPlay initially but they were fixed via an iDrive software update and now, I wouldn't be without it. You can use Apple Maps or iDrive for nav and shortly also be able to use Google Maps and Waze on CarPlay too.
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x-m4n Captain 148 Rep 766 Posts Drives: Gran Turismo (F34) Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: London iTrader: (0)	I retrofited Carplay - the box works great but Carplay itself while not perfect still has far better Spotify, Traffic, Maps, REMAINING TIME TO DESTINANTION integration than whatever BMW could ever ship with my car. Google Maps and Waze coming soon to Carplay will only make it better. See if the dealer can upgrade your system but sounds like some issues might just be how Carplay is meant to "work". Last edited by x-m4n; 08-17-2018 at 07:40 AM..
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SkyJawa Major General 3716 Rep 8,636 Posts Drives: F10 530d Join Date: May 2014 Location: Hampshire iTrader: (1)	Its shit. Might be better when Waze is included when IOS 12 comes along
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aquazi Major 461 Rep 1,303 Posts Drives: 18 M4C Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: Sutton coldfield iTrader: (0)	Yeah i think its crap.... not integrated very well.... carplay maps, separate from nav maps etc. Even with ios12 with waze access will be just as much as a waste imo.
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DaveH28 Captain 287 Rep 643 Posts Drives: f31 335d estoril blue Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Littleborough, Gt. Manc iTrader: (0)	For me the idrive is superb as it is, very well integrated into the car.. CarPlay has its place, but personally for retrofitting to older cars and maybe cars without a very good infotainment system... I have been using ford sync 2 in our 66 plate focus and it's nowhere near what VW were putting out in Passats in 2007.. I would deffo choose CarPlay, But the development that goes into the idrive far outweighs a one size fits all CarPlay Solution.
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Soul_Glo Major General 13346 Rep 7,484 Posts Drives: G20 Join Date: May 2013 Location: Manhattan, NYC iTrader: (1)	Question. With car play. Can I use google maps off my phone with the iDrive screen?
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