F30POST
F30POST
2012-2015 BMW 3-Series and 4-Series Forum
BMW Garage BMW Meets Register Today's Posts
BMW 3-Series and 4-Series Forum (F30 / F32) | F30POST > Technical Forums > B58 Turbo Engine / Drivetrain / Exhaust Modifications > B58 - Time slips/0-100kmph/100-200kmph thread!
Extreme Powerhouse
Post Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      08-17-2023, 05:16 AM   #727
RacerX85
New Member
5
Rep
20
Posts

Drives: BMW 440i F36 X-Drive
Join Date: May 2023
Location: Italy

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by enemigo13 View Post
why are you using stage2 with TU hpfp? use stage2+. now you have 1280kg/h air, run 1.45 bar and you'll have 1350-1400kg/h, thats 9% more, will likely run under 9 seconds 100-200 if octane will be ok and ambient temps are not too hot.
Because i tried with stage2+ and had higher time corrections compared to stage2..

Tonight i'll try stage2+ again and upload the log here
Appreciate 0
      08-17-2023, 05:58 AM   #728
enemigo13
Lieutenant
249
Rep
505
Posts

Drives: F32 LCI 440xi citrineblack
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: LT

iTrader: (0)

add few liters of e85 and timing corrections will be gone. also if ambient temp is high (like +30C or smth) car will noticeably slower

Quote:
Originally Posted by RacerX85 View Post
Because i tried with stage2+ and had higher time corrections compared to stage2..

Tonight i'll try stage2+ again and upload the log here

Last edited by enemigo13; 08-17-2023 at 06:03 AM..
Appreciate 0
      08-17-2023, 11:53 AM   #729
RacerX85
New Member
5
Rep
20
Posts

Drives: BMW 440i F36 X-Drive
Join Date: May 2023
Location: Italy

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by enemigo13 View Post
add few liters of e85 and timing corrections will be gone. also if ambient temp is high (like +30C or smth) car will noticeably slower
E85 is not available in my area. I bought 50 liters of alcohol ethyl denatured 100°..I will try to add it to the tank and check the log
Appreciate 0
      08-17-2023, 04:04 PM   #730
Skyhigh
Brigadier General
Skyhigh's Avatar
1900
Rep
3,885
Posts

Drives: BMW F36
Join Date: Apr 2018
Location: Europe

iTrader: (0)

Measure the alcohol content yourself! Do not trust the label!! More often than not, it will be lower! 100% Ethanol requires additional destillation. So unless it had a corresponding price-tag, it is most likely around 96%.
__________________
"Large increases in cost with questionable increases in performance can be tolerated only in cars and women."
Appreciate 0
      08-17-2023, 04:56 PM   #731
McBobby Jr
Lieutenant
McBobby Jr's Avatar
212
Rep
577
Posts

Drives: '18 240i xDrive
Join Date: Mar 2020
Location: Anchorage, AK

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Skyhigh View Post
Measure the alcohol content yourself! Do not trust the label!! More often than not, it will be lower! 100% Ethanol requires additional destillation. So unless it had a corresponding price-tag, it is most likely around 96%.
If it says 100% 200 proof anhydrous ethanol for him, it should be good. If it’s been denatured to any degree, the specs must be observed. I’ve used pure 200 proof before and tested it myself.
Attached Images
 
__________________
current
'18 F22 240i xDrive - FBO
'16 F82 M4 ZCP - FBO
previous
'08 E90 335i Montego Blue
Appreciate 0
      08-17-2023, 05:32 PM   #732
RacerX85
New Member
5
Rep
20
Posts

Drives: BMW 440i F36 X-Drive
Join Date: May 2023
Location: Italy

iTrader: (0)

I bought directly from a company that produces alcohol. They have two versions of denatured ethyl alcohol, 94° and 100°. I bought the 100° version. this is the description:

"Completely denatured 100° ethyl alcohol following the legislation dictated by EU Reg. 1112/2017, it is colorless and odorless, ideal as a solvent in the restoration sector to dissolve shellac, or in the chemical-pharmaceutical sector for in vitro diagnostic use."
Appreciate 0
      10-15-2023, 04:27 PM   #733
M2C
Private First Class
Germany
40
Rep
118
Posts

Drives: BMW M140i xDrive
Join Date: Sep 2018
Location: Nürburgring

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast_Rabbi View Post
M140ix (1615kgs + fuel tank + me = should be around 1740kgs I think ?)
Pure800 on 93 oct tune.

That‘s really fast! Do you maybe have a log?
Appreciate 0
      10-15-2023, 09:22 PM   #734
jav140i
Private
jav140i's Avatar
34
Rep
62
Posts

Drives: BMW M140I
Join Date: Oct 2020
Location: ARG

iTrader: (0)






B58 GEN 1 | RWD
Built Engine (Pistons and Rods)
Stock Transmission
PI with 750cc
Stock Manifold
PURE800 Stage 2 (Old version)
Fuel E85
Stage 3 LPFP
M Performance Exhaust + VRSF Downpipe

Last edited by jav140i; 10-15-2023 at 10:10 PM..
Appreciate 3
ErikB60.50
M140_BCS237.50
      10-15-2023, 09:57 PM   #735
McBobby Jr
Lieutenant
McBobby Jr's Avatar
212
Rep
577
Posts

Drives: '18 240i xDrive
Join Date: Mar 2020
Location: Anchorage, AK

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by jav140i View Post



https://youtu.be/4q9iy5ut26g?si=q8UsE2I9vTXWCpdf


Built Engine (Pistons and Rods)
Stock Transmission
PI with 750cc
Stock Manifold
PURE800 Stage 2 (Old version)
Fuel E85
Stage 3 LPFP
Great numbers, impressive to see this being done with an older version of the Pure 800. What exhaust is on the build?
__________________
current
'18 F22 240i xDrive - FBO
'16 F82 M4 ZCP - FBO
previous
'08 E90 335i Montego Blue
Appreciate 0
      10-15-2023, 10:08 PM   #736
jav140i
Private
jav140i's Avatar
34
Rep
62
Posts

Drives: BMW M140I
Join Date: Oct 2020
Location: ARG

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by McBobby Jr View Post
Great numbers, impressive to see this being done with an older version of the Pure 800. What exhaust is on the build?
M Performance Exhaust + VRSF Downpipe. This numbers where done with unfinished map. Could not test final map, had no traction i limit 3rd gear torque. Lower temps would help even more
Appreciate 0
      10-15-2023, 10:17 PM   #737
McBobby Jr
Lieutenant
McBobby Jr's Avatar
212
Rep
577
Posts

Drives: '18 240i xDrive
Join Date: Mar 2020
Location: Anchorage, AK

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by jav140i View Post
M Performance Exhaust + VRSF Downpipe. This numbers where done with unfinished map. Could not test final map, had no traction i limit 3rd gear torque. Lower temps would help even more
Nice, I used to have the exact same exhaust setup until I switch to a turndown. If you were to swap to a 3.5” diameter exhaust/downpipe you could probably cut a couple tenths off just by freeing up some back pressure and flow the turbo is seeing through the stock style exhaust/downpipe.
__________________
current
'18 F22 240i xDrive - FBO
'16 F82 M4 ZCP - FBO
previous
'08 E90 335i Montego Blue
Appreciate 0
      10-15-2023, 11:55 PM   #738
jav140i
Private
jav140i's Avatar
34
Rep
62
Posts

Drives: BMW M140I
Join Date: Oct 2020
Location: ARG

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by McBobby Jr View Post
Nice, I used to have the exact same exhaust setup until I switch to a turndown. If you were to swap to a 3.5” diameter exhaust/downpipe you could probably cut a couple tenths off just by freeing up some back pressure and flow the turbo is seeing through the stock style exhaust/downpipe.
Yes might work as you say. Something that would also help is having a nozzle with water or meth spray just to get cooler IAT's. There are ways to improve this. First i need better tyres
Appreciate 0
      10-16-2023, 03:24 AM   #739
McBobby Jr
Lieutenant
McBobby Jr's Avatar
212
Rep
577
Posts

Drives: '18 240i xDrive
Join Date: Mar 2020
Location: Anchorage, AK

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by jav140i View Post
Yes might work as you say. Something that would also help is having a nozzle with water or meth spray just to get cooler IAT's. There are ways to improve this. First i need better tyres
For sure a water meth nozzle will help, on a stock intake manifold even more. The bigger exhaust is the most simple mod, but since your rwd on a narrow body tires are super necessary. My one issue with the F2X body is how narrow it is, it’s my one reason as to why these cars need to be x-drive.
__________________
current
'18 F22 240i xDrive - FBO
'16 F82 M4 ZCP - FBO
previous
'08 E90 335i Montego Blue
Appreciate 1
M2C40.00
      10-16-2023, 03:31 AM   #740
M2C
Private First Class
Germany
40
Rep
118
Posts

Drives: BMW M140i xDrive
Join Date: Sep 2018
Location: Nürburgring

iTrader: (0)

jav140i

Which HPFP do you use and I guess your torque is limited when still having the stock transmission, right?
Appreciate 0
      10-16-2023, 08:25 AM   #741
M2C
Private First Class
Germany
40
Rep
118
Posts

Drives: BMW M140i xDrive
Join Date: Sep 2018
Location: Nürburgring

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jay5k View Post
Ya those numbers are nice and I have a similar setup. Will be upgrading to stg 2 pump soon. Maybe I should get a Dragy to see.

https://datazap.me/u/jptsunga/vtt-gc...6-17-18&solo=7
Log is looking really good. What was your setup in detail?
Appreciate 0
      10-16-2023, 01:10 PM   #742
jav140i
Private
jav140i's Avatar
34
Rep
62
Posts

Drives: BMW M140I
Join Date: Oct 2020
Location: ARG

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by M2C View Post
jav140i

Which HPFP do you use and I guess your torque is limited when still having the stock transmission, right?
DS2, but you perfectly can with a TUPump, PI is more than enough fuel for my setup. I limit torque in 3rd gear to decrease will spin, not because of trans limitations
Appreciate 1
M2C40.00
      10-16-2023, 07:24 PM   #743
B58togo
Major
809
Rep
1,372
Posts

Drives: M240i
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: NY

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by jav140i View Post





B58 GEN 1 | RWD
Built Engine (Pistons and Rods)
Stock Transmission
PI with 750cc
Stock Manifold
PURE800 Stage 2 (Old version)
Fuel E85
Stage 3 LPFP
M Performance Exhaust + VRSF Downpipe
That is crazy fast. 5.78 60-130 should equate to about a 140 mph trap!
__________________
2017 M240i/ ZF8 Pure Drivetrain Solutions Stage 1 & torque converter/xHP/ DAW Ultra Flow/ DS2/ Nostrum injectors/ E40 Doug Newton tuned/ ER DP/ Remus axle back/ BMS intake/ FTP CP/ M Perf LSD
Appreciate 1
jav140i33.50
      10-17-2023, 02:09 AM   #744
M2C
Private First Class
Germany
40
Rep
118
Posts

Drives: BMW M140i xDrive
Join Date: Sep 2018
Location: Nürburgring

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by jav140i View Post
DS2, but you perfectly can with a TUPump, PI is more than enough fuel for my setup. I limit torque in 3rd gear to decrease will spin, not because of trans limitations
And in the upper gears? 800nm limit or even more?
Appreciate 0
      10-17-2023, 06:55 AM   #745
M2C
Private First Class
Germany
40
Rep
118
Posts

Drives: BMW M140i xDrive
Join Date: Sep 2018
Location: Nürburgring

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Glemm1970 View Post
98Ron.
Any log for the 98 RON only map?
Appreciate 0
      10-17-2023, 02:16 PM   #746
jav140i
Private
jav140i's Avatar
34
Rep
62
Posts

Drives: BMW M140I
Join Date: Oct 2020
Location: ARG

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by M2C View Post
And in the upper gears? 800nm limit or even more?
I have also 6th gear at 650ft-lbs but i almost never go thru that gear. 130mph / 200km/h is at 5th gear 6000-6500rpm. Then i just stop accelerating and change to 6th gear
Appreciate 1
M2C40.00
      11-10-2023, 07:18 AM   #747
MorendiSLO
Private
124
Rep
62
Posts

Drives: M240i xdrive g42 , AUDI TT RS
Join Date: Apr 2023
Location: Maribor

iTrader: (0)

Do you use drag mode in xhp?

Quote:
Originally Posted by jav140i View Post





B58 GEN 1 | RWD
Built Engine (Pistons and Rods)
Stock Transmission
PI with 750cc
Stock Manifold
PURE800 Stage 2 (Old version)
Fuel E85
Stage 3 LPFP
M Performance Exhaust + VRSF Downpipe
Appreciate 0
      11-21-2023, 03:55 AM   #748
jav140i
Private
jav140i's Avatar
34
Rep
62
Posts

Drives: BMW M140I
Join Date: Oct 2020
Location: ARG

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by MorendiSLO View Post
Do you use drag mode in xhp?
No drag mode, just xhp stage 3 with increased oil pressure option
Appreciate 0
Post Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:37 AM.




f30post
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST