03-28-2018, 09:10 PM | #67 |
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i was under the impression this discussion was about an ethical dilemma and contractual nuances as opposed to opinions and feelings..
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Secondly, you specifically "agreed to purchase the car" over the period of your so called drama, not once, not twice, BUT THREE TIMES!!!! READ YOUR OWN WORDS ABOVE!!! Seriously, if I was the car salesman or the dealer, I would of slapped the sh#t out of you and they have every right to keep your deposit. You paid them. changed your mind, then agreed to purchase, then change your mind, then Agreed to purchase again, then changed your mind!!! WTF is wrong with you? Grow some Gonads. Take it like a man and cut your losses. The dealer would be smokin some kick ass joint rolled in your $2k dollar bills right now!!! |
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04-26-2018, 05:24 AM | #70 |
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yeah but in his defence, bmw finance knocked him back even though there were apparently no issues with his credit and there was a $5000 deposit paid by BMW finance if financed with them so there was a $5k discrepancy straight off the bat
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Yes it does. because each time he changes his mind on buying the car, its because he didnt consult his missus and also she doesnt let him buy it. He shouldnt have put a deposit if he knows that she makes the decision. |
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04-27-2018, 08:34 AM | #73 | |
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04-28-2018, 01:09 AM | #74 | |
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for this reason, i believe there is truth to what he said. kind of just looks like he is giving context and is using the missus line to have time to think things over. if the dealer keeps moving the goal posts and is pressuring him to make on the spot decisions worth approx 90k, then i think he has every right to tell them to hold off till he comes back with confirmation. I personally wouldnt use the missus as an excuse, but some people may not react as well under pressure in certain social situations. |
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04-28-2018, 03:38 AM | #76 | |
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You cant simply blame personal issues and take that out on the dealer, its just unfair. Seriously, all I (we?) want to know is the full story, as whatever hea told us so far has alot of plot holes. Its far too easy as a community to turn against a dealer and talk trash, but thats neither helpful or productive |
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04-28-2018, 03:58 AM | #77 | |
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The OP gave a refundable deposit over the phone originally. It doesn't get much simpler than that. |
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04-28-2018, 06:07 AM | #78 | |
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deposit is usually refundable only for a set amount of days. if i made any assumptions, it would be that the OP neglected the nuances of contractual obligations- and that falls directly on the OP. being played by the dealerships stalling tactics and using the OP's indecisiveness against him also falls directly on the OP. At the end of the day, you're spending 90k on a car, we're all adults, and as I said previously, negligence unfortunately has consequences. No amount of feeling sorry for yourself will change that, and thats what bugs me- don't use self pity as reason
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Anyway, all good, just not sure if your attitude towards the dude is warranted, but alas, this is the internet and you can do what you want. |
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once a deposit is taken, there is usually a list of things a dealer must do to meet their end of the deal, organising car to delivery, often shipping it interstate, paperwork etc which all take time and costs them money- i guess this is what i wanted to convey, try to understand the dealers perspective i hope OP negotiated with the dealer for a mutually acceptable outcome and takes it as a lesson learnt, or better yet, to not take it personally and managed to secure a deal
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I don't get the rest.... |
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a whole lot of things happened after initially paying deposit. they even agreed on a day to pick up!- presumable weeks go past since paying the deposit
"ithout telling me they were recording it) and in that recording I have agreed to pick up the car on that date and since I didn't complete" the way I see it, prior to this, the whenever the OP wanted a refund, the dealer talked him out of it until it was too late
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05-12-2018, 04:39 AM | #84 | |
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We all do!!! And if he is going through a tough time, then buying a car and changing your mind later and costing the dealers money for their time, ordering the car etc is not an excuse. If you had a business, and someone wanted to buy your goods, puts down a deposit, and you go ahead and process the goods, ordering it in from the manufacturer, costing you time effort and money, just to have the weener change his mind cos his wife didnt let him buy it, and now you are stuck with the goods that you already paid the manufacturer, and now have to sell it at a loss - because it is no longer brand new/factory ordered. Think about that!!! |
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stupidly strong |
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Just read OP story. Heres my 2 cents. Giving op benefit of the doubt if the salesmen took the deposit over the phone and agreed he could have a refund then the sales rep lied. Surely there is a grace period. He should of got his refund and the story should have ended there.
If the deal was always pending finance then again the deposit ahould have been refundable |
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