[Vector Pilot]

The grid describing the features included in the "Luxury and Modern Lines" has an asterisk stating the Premium Package (ZPP) is required when ordering one of the two lines. Selecting (ZPP) creates an overlap because both lines offer leather as part of the package. Isn't this redundant having to pay for same item twice?

[Fugly M3]

Originally Posted by Vector Pilot

The grid describing the features included in the "Luxury and Modern Lines" has an asterisk stating the Premium Package (ZPP) is required when ordering one of the two lines. Selecting (ZPP) creates an overlap because both lines offer leather as part of the package. Isn't this redundant having to pay for same item twice?

no, what it is is this: if you want all the luxury line items you MUST order the premium package to get some of them- like leather. it's BMW making you pay for the premium pack is what it is.

[Vector Pilot]

Originally Posted by E46M54325Ci

no, what it is is this: if you want all the luxury line items you MUST order the premium package to get some of them- like leather. it's BMW making you pay for the premium pack is what it is.

Totally understand. However it goes beyond that, document states if you order a 335i, it comes standard with two additional items included in the Premium Package, a moonroof and power front seats + lumbar support. Going one step further ordering a 335i includes, 18" wheels, xenon headlights plus wood trim. I'm not seeing the value the Lux or Modern Lines has to offer except for a couple of cosmetic items. With that being said, I guess some consumers prefer a bundled package.

[Eric500]

I really wish Xdrive version would come out in Feb as well, since it's you know, winter....

BMW please release pricing and the configurator!

[M3WC]

Wait...what?! The broken pop-up look navi screen is standard?

I want a clean dash.

Was looking to get a stripper 328i for a commuter car. No thanks.

[han405]

Originally Posted by JetBlack5OC

Wait...what?! The broken pop-up look navi screen is standard?

heehee

[southlight]

Originally Posted by Lezam

All wheel drive isn't coming for another year, correct?

No, xDrive will be available as of 7/12 production.

Originally Posted by E46M54325Ci

whats the deal on the entry system- is it like the new 5 where the keyless go half of comfort access is standard but the keyless entry part is still part of the comfort access system...

Exactly.


Best regards,
south

[mkoesel]

Originally Posted by SD 335is

There will still be a Standard trim level and you'll be able to order whatever exterior/interior trim combinations and packages/options that you want, just like now.

As I said in another thread, this is simply not true. Well, I should say that it isn't true in markets where the full option list has been revealed. We aren't sure yet if it will also hold true for the US, but I strongly suspect it will.

In other words, if you do not opt for one of the lines, in contrast to how it is today, instead of being able to select from four (more actually, when you include priority one) different leather colors, you will only have the choice between two. Similarly, instead of being able to select from four different interior trims, you'll only have the choice of two.

Sure, you could just order one of the lines if you want more. The lines do offer great value and open you up to a world of variety and options. But they force specific combinations on you as well.

For the record I am not complaining. I am merely trying to keep it real.

[rudyv1]

What is Speed limit information (8TH) ?

[Grendalf]

Originally Posted by rudyv1

What is Speed limit information (8TH) ?

Basically, it will show up the speed limit of the road you are driving on on the head-up display.

Check out the red circle on the left.

[Jason]

Originally Posted by rudyv1

What is Speed limit information (8TH) ?

Speed Limit Info.

It’s known that traffic regulations are there to be observed by everyone. Nevertheless, it can still happen that you overlook a sign and inadvertently drive too fast. So it’s good when somebody tells you in good time. Either one of your passengers – or Speed Limit Info.

You want to reach your destinations as fast as you can. That’s why BMW ConnectedDrive offers Speed Limit Info – to make sure you stay within the legal speed limits. A camera installed close to the rear view mirror not only keeps a wary electronic eye on permanent traffic signs, but also on variable Speed Limit Info on gantries above the road. Together with the information already supplied by your navigation system, it ensures a reliable display of speed limits and other additional traffic warnings like ‘when wet’. Either distinctly on the instrument cluster display. Or, as an alternative option, in the Head-Up Display.

Important information that keeps you feeling safe and secure on the road: with Speed Limit Info from BMW ConnectedDrive, you can always drive as fast as you can and as fast as you may.

[darksilkx1]

Originally Posted by Jason

SOMEONE LISTEN TO THIS MAN!!

As we said in our F30 Lines Guide:

First and foremost, these lines are not the only 3 cars we can choose from. A 3-Series can be ordered as is and optioned how you want to option it, just as has always been with a BMW. These 3 "Lines" are just extra options on top of what is normally offered. I tend to think of them as just an extra package, akin to a sports package, except that the package contains many more stylistic elements. Another way to think of them would be a pre-packaged BMW Individual car.

Don't waste your time Jason, I cant count how many posts I've seen you write on how you can option pretty much anything you want and not just the three main lines. Yet folks keep bitching about not liking the lines and being "forced" to get this or that.

[Mthusiast]

47706

USA

October production

BSM

[wmzorba]

so the M sport suspension will be available on the 328 and 335 without having to wait until summer 2012 for the M-Sport Package.

Anotherword I can order a 335i with M sport suspension this month?

Is the M Sport suspension lower than the regular? How much lower?

[southlight]

Originally Posted by wmzorba

so the M sport suspension will be available on the 328 and 335 without having to wait until summer 2012 for the M-Sport Package.

Anotherword I can order a 335i with M sport suspension this month?

Yep, M Sport Suspension is available.

Originally Posted by wmzorba

Is the M Sport suspension lower than the regular? How much lower?

It's 10mm lower.


Best regards,
south

[Eric500]

Since xdrive will be for 7/12 production, when can we start ordering it?

[Weird Side Effect]

Originally Posted by bmrm396

ANSWER: NO (unfortunately)

even on the "Modern" line its still old skool bulbs ... irony at its finest

I really dont understand this. Kind of annoying and aggravating to be honest. Nothing against the Charger, but even the new Dodge Charger comes with rear LED tails (on all models). There is no waiting for some update years down the road.

[PaulBailey@ltbmw]

Originally Posted by USC2000

Hope the price is lower than the e90.

Are you kidding?

[MassBimmer]

Originally Posted by southlight

Yep, M Sport Suspension is available.


It's 10mm lower.


Best regards,
south

Any plans to offer the M-Sport suspension with xDrive?

[bmrm396]

Originally Posted by MassBimmer

Any plans to offer the M-Sport suspension with xDrive?

^^^ wishful thinking haha. im pretty sure thats like an oxymoron

[wannabe]

If it were up to me:

Sport - standard hydraulic steering, mechanical limited slip, black wheels, throttle response and engine output tuned for sport. DCT and manual transmissions. Optional iDrive and other tech gadgets.

Luxury - electric steering, throttle and engine output and automatic transmissions tuned for a "smooth" drive. 8-speed automatic transmission only. iDrive, NAV and tech gadgets standard. Matte silver accents...leave the chrome to Cadillac.

Modern - completely unnecessary

But it's not so...cool story bro.

[Hound Passer]

Originally Posted by rmmcdaniel

Jason, will we be able to individually spec the different kidney grills, headliner color, dash color, wheels, bumper strips, key fobs, etc that are included in the lines without spec'ing one of the lines (i.e. mix and match what is included in the lines)?

I think that is the key question. If not I suspect that decision is going to leave a bad taste for a lot of the people on this board as the diehards that really want to customize their cars are going to be forced into the slots of the three lines and basically choose which stereotype of lemming they are.

It's rather ironic (and cruel) that BMW's vastly less expensive sister, Mini is going to be more customizable than an not-so entry level 3-series. One of the things BMW brags about when you take the 3 sedan factory tour is that that vast majority of cars are customer orders, i.e., not dealer stock, and that there are so many options, statistically only 5 other cars have the same color/trim/options each model year. Well that goes down the tubes now.

You are right it's going to annoy a lot of die hards, but even more so, it's going to p.o. people that actually shop different brands before buying. Hopefully BMW will rethink this "one size fits all" strategy. It's just dumb for a $40K+ car.