[428iSoCal]

Hi all, just wanted to get opinions on some F36 equipment comparisons.
There are 2 2015 F36 435i Gran Coupe M package I am looking at.
First one has the VSS and Adaptive M Suspension as well as Adaptive Cruise Control with Stop/Go function. The second one has the standard M package with M suspension etc....

Is the VSS and Adaptive M suspension that much better than the standard M package suspension? Opinions please.

Thank you
Doug

[Skyhigh]

VSS is a rather insignificant improvement, liked by some, disliked by others. Not a deal-breaker if you ask me.
The Adaptive M suspension however is a serious advantage over the standard M Suspension. More comfortable in "Comfort", stiffer in "Sport". The best of both worlds. I love it.

ACC - you either need it and could benefit from it or you don't. It is neat, but I barely use it. Heavily dependent on your driving style and routes.

[428iSoCal]

Originally Posted by Skyhigh

VSS is a rather insignificant improvement, liked by some, disliked by others. Not a deal-breaker if you ask me.
The Adaptive M suspension however is a serious advantage over the standard M Suspension. More comfortable in "Comfort", stiffer in "Sport". The best of both worlds. I love it.

ACC - you either need it and could benefit from it or you don't. It is neat, but I barely use it. Heavily dependent on your driving style and routes.

First off thank you for the input. I dont have a long commute so I guess ACC would be not as useful. Let me ask you this would you take HUD over ACC?

Got it, the adjust ability of the suspension is that good.

Thank you
Doug

[Skyhigh]

HUD over ACC? I know what the majority here would answer...
To me however, HUD is not that big of a deal. Not in the F3x that is, as it has rather limited functionality. I don't really miss it when driving my other car, which has no HUD.

I use ACC so rarely however, that if I have to chose, I'd go with the HUD nevertheless... at least I can see it every time I drive If I did long commutes on boring roads/motorways where ACC can be used and would be an advantage - I'd go with the ACC.

Hope this makes some sense

[psyki]

Originally Posted by 428iSoCal

Hi all, just wanted to get opinions on some F36 equipment comparisons.
There are 2 2015 F36 435i Gran Coupe M package I am looking at.
First one has the VSS and Adaptive M Suspension as well as Adaptive Cruise Control with Stop/Go function. The second one has the standard M package with M suspension etc....

Is the VSS and Adaptive M suspension that much better than the standard M package suspension? Opinions please.

Thank you
Doug

Personally I'd take VSS and adaptive over static M suspension, I have VSS and adaptive and I love it. Lowered on eibach springs.

If I had to pick between HUD and ACC I'd pick HUD, but ACC is really nice if you ever drive in traffic. You don't need ACC for long trips, normal cruise is fine for that. ACC really shines in slow moving traffic.

[428iSoCal]

Originally Posted by Skyhigh

HUD over ACC? I know what the majority here would answer...
To me however, HUD is not that big of a deal. Not in the F3x that is, as it has rather limited functionality. I don't really miss it when driving my other car, which has no HUD.

I use ACC so rarely however, that if I have to chose, I'd go with the HUD nevertheless... at least I can see it every time I drive If I did long commutes on boring roads/motorways where ACC can be used and would be an advantage - I'd go with the ACC.

Hope this makes some sense

Yes it makes sense, I think I would go that way as well. Thanks

[428iSoCal]

Originally Posted by psyki

Personally I'd take VSS and adaptive over static M suspension, I have VSS and adaptive and I love it. Lowered on eibach springs.

If I had to pick between HUD and ACC I'd pick HUD, but ACC is really nice if you ever drive in traffic. You don't need ACC for long trips, normal cruise is fine for that. ACC really shines in slow moving traffic.

Excellent, thanks for the input. Makes sense as well. I've got a choice to make now.

[Skyhigh]

Originally Posted by psyki

You don't need ACC for long trips, normal cruise is fine for that. ACC really shines in slow moving traffic.

I'd elaborate on that...
I used to think ACC would be good for Stop&Go traffic so that one can relax feet and leave it to the car to tag along. I was disappointed that this is not the case. If the car stops (for longer than 2-3 seconds at least?) it will not drive out again automatically. You need to hit the throttle every time. Which kind of kills any potential advantage of ACC in stop&go.

ACC is certainly bringing CC to the next level, but I sort of like driving my cars...
Don't get the whole hype about autonomous cars. We've had them for ages. They are called "Taxis"! And I'd rather call a taxi when I need it, than own a taxi.

[psyki]

Originally Posted by Skyhigh

I'd elaborate on that...
I used to think ACC would be good for Stop&Go traffic so that one can relax feet and leave it to the car to tag along. I was disappointed that this is not the case. If the car stops (for longer than 2-3 seconds at least?) it will not drive out again automatically. You need to hit the throttle every time. Which kind of kills any potential advantage of ACC in stop&go.

ACC is certainly bringing CC to the next level, but I sort of like driving my cars...
Don't get the whole hype about autonomous cars. We've had them for ages. They are called "Taxis"! And I'd rather call a taxi when I need it, than own a taxi.

You can just click the 'Resume' button on your steering wheel to re-engage ACC after stopping, you don't need to use the pedal.

[Skyhigh]

That would not make the car drive off if standing, would it? Must try it.
Even so however, I was hoping it would just follow the traffic without constant interaction.

[psyki]

Originally Posted by Skyhigh

That would not make the car drive off if standing, would it? Must try it.
Even so however, I was hoping it would just follow the traffic without constant interaction.

Yes it does, if ACC is engaged and the car comes to a stop on its own, when you see the lines start moving ahead on the dash you can click the button and it will move forward again. At least it does on my X5, I imagine it works the same way on 3 and 4 series.

[Skyhigh]

Thanks for that tip, I will try it next time. Fortunately I rarely get into Stop&Go, but it would be an advantage, instead of the pedal (which felt silly).

[simonelwell]

ACC fabulous - on motorways it's great - maintains a safe distance and varies speed with the traffic / car in front. It's gonna notice the car in front slowing down much quicker than I will.

[Elvisfan]

Originally Posted by psyki

Yes it does, if ACC is engaged and the car comes to a stop on its own, when you see the lines start moving ahead on the dash you can click the button and it will move forward again. At least it does on my X5, I imagine it works the same way on 3 and 4 series.

I don’t have it on my BMW. However,I do have it on my Acura. It works the same way. If you stand still for a couple of seconds,just press the resume. While I like it on the hwy. ACC shines in stop and go traffic. I’m surprised more people don’t know about the stop and go part. As a matter of fact,even if you are standing still and you see traffic ahead. Press cruise. It will set as 25. Which you can increase. Then you don’t have to touch the gas at all.
I spent months looking for a convertible with ACC. I couldn’t find one.

[428iSoCal]

All great info, many thanks to everyone. I learned alot. Dont believe I will need it in present commute.

[DURSTTTT]

Originally Posted by 428iSoCal

Hi all, just wanted to get opinions on some F36 equipment comparisons.
There are 2 2015 F36 435i Gran Coupe M package I am looking at.
First one has the VSS and Adaptive M Suspension as well as Adaptive Cruise Control with Stop/Go function. The second one has the standard M package with M suspension etc....

Is the VSS and Adaptive M suspension that much better than the standard M package suspension? Opinions please.

Thank you
Doug

My F31 335D has the adaptive suspension, it has to be said it is a day and night comparison from comfort to sport, the steering gets heavier, less roll in the suspension, it stiffens up a whole bunch too, personally I'd say its a great option to have!