[Drisser]

good review from Joe

Check out 36m, in gear acceleration the M240 looks quicker !?

Seriously wondering if the M2 is worth the £15k extra over a discounted M140 !!

I know I know its not just straight line speed that matters.

[mofomat]

Originally Posted by Drisser

Seriously wondering if the M2 is worth the £15k extra over a discounted M140 !!

And there you go....

Originally Posted by Drisser

I know I know its not just straight line speed that matters.

[Drisser]

That's because you get yours in 4 days !

[stefan4]

if I had m2 money and didn't want an m3 then I think I would seriously consider an m240i and spend 10k on a track day toy - a Caterham or something and keep 5k to one side for track day consumables

having said that, I'm guessing in the pcp game that this won't necessarily work out as straightforward. It could also be with such hype around the m2 and limited production, it could end up being a very cheep car indeed but you can't really count on that

[mofomat]

Originally Posted by Drisser

That's because you get yours in 4 days !

Well, that could have something to do with it.

Joking aside, nobody forced me to get an M2, so I made the decision because I think it IS worth it over the M240i. And the price difference will likely be outweighed by stronger residuals. The good deals available on the M140i/M240i only mean one thing for second hand values, so it's swings and roundabouts.

My M135i is a great car but it's no M car. I really wouldn't mind if the M2 is slower than the M240i. I didn't buy it for acceleration.

[creepy coupe]

I wouldn't buy either. I'd have the Mini that was keeping up with them.

[SkyJawa]

Was interesting to see that really the M2 is no faster in the real world - quite a surprise.

[insanecoder]

M2 is a true well balanced M car minus the bells and whistles.. sure it has the N55 but its components are upgraded.. the M240i is an in-between it just so happens to have the powerful B58 within that accounts for its power

[NISFAN]

Originally Posted by SkyJawa

Was interesting to see that really the M2 is no faster in the real world - quite a surprise.

Bit of an own goal by BMW. Such a shame they didn't use a detuned S55.

......or a spiced up B58.

[CazuaLLUK]

Interesting stuff.....

[mofomat]

Originally Posted by NISFAN

Bit of an own goal by BMW

Yeah, you can't move at dealers for unsold M2s.

[stefan4]

Originally Posted by mofomat

Yeah, you can't move at dealers for unsold M2s.

to be fair they've played a blinder with the limited production.

it will have that exclusivity that few cars have and no m240i will ever have.

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Originally Posted by stefan4

to be fair they've played a blinder with the limited production.

it will have that exclusivity that few cars have and no m240i will ever have.

For the first run / year and mainly due to manufacturing capability more than anything.

My mate picked his M3 up earlier in summer and queried tax free / discounts for M2 and bit like the M4 will likely pitch up next year.

[mofomat]

Originally Posted by Brigand

For the first run / year and mainly due to manufacturing capability more than anything.

My mate picked his M3 up earlier in summer and queried tax free / discounts for M2 and bit like the M4 will likely pitch up next year.

With productions numbers continuing as they are? I don't think so. There are far more M3 and M4s sold in the UK than there will be M2s. The manufacturing capability isn't going to suddenly change. The Leipzig plant is maxed out and the M2 is built on batches.

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Originally Posted by mofomat

With productions numbers continuing as they are? I don't think so. There are far more M3 and M4s sold in the UK than there will be M2s. The manufacturing capability isn't going to suddenly change. The Leipzig plant is maxed out and the M2 is built on batches.

yes M3 and M4 will be built in higher numbers and same with respective sales.

Long waiting lists are fine for Ferrarri etc, however for mass production manufacturers such as BMW, it is just lost sales.

Discounts will arrive

[NISFAN]

Originally Posted by mofomat

With productions numbers continuing as they are? I don't think so. There are far more M3 and M4s sold in the UK than there will be M2s. The manufacturing capability isn't going to suddenly change. The Leipzig plant is maxed out and the M2 is built on batches.

Perhaps because an M3/M4 is a standard usable size car. M2 is toy size only.

With discounts there isn't a huge difference cost wise between an M2 and its bigger and faster sibling the M3 and M4.

Two pretty compelling reasons why many buyers would plumb for the M3/4.

[mofomat]

Originally Posted by Brigand

yes M3 and M4 will be built in higher numbers and same with respective sales.

Long waiting lists are fine for Ferrarri etc, however for mass production manufacturers such as BMW, it is just lost sales.

Discounts will arrive

For as long as there is a waiting list, there will be no discounts. And with the volumes of production of the M2, there will be a waiting list for many years to come. Your analogy with Ferrari doesn't make sense. The M2 is four times cheaper than the entry level Ferrari. It's available to a much larger market and therefore the demand will always be there. There are people being told they'll likely take delivery in 2018, and yet they're still keeping their order. They're just buying another BMW in the meantime.

The idea that next year there will be discounts similar to those seen on the M3/M4 is ludicrous. How many per year do you think they're building?! The M2 has to be taken off the production line and have various parts added manually. It's a slow process and will not be built in volume numbers.

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Originally Posted by NISFAN

Perhaps because an M3/M4 is a standard usable size car. M2 is toy size only.

With discounts there isn't a huge difference cost wise between an M2 and its bigger and faster sibling the M3 and M4.

Two pretty compelling reasons why many buyers would plumb for the M3/4.

Yep, at moment I can get an M4 quite a bit cheaper than an M2.

If they don't manage to up production, the M2 runs risk of being a low production, restricted colour build.

[NISFAN]

Originally Posted by mofomat

For as long as there is a waiting list, there will be no discounts. And with the volumes of production of the M2, there will be a waiting list for many years to come. Your analogy with Ferrari doesn't make sense. The M2 is four times cheaper than the entry level Ferrari. It's available to a much larger market and therefore the demand will always be there. There are people being told they'll likely take delivery in 2018, and yet they're still keeping their order. They're just buying another BMW in the meantime.

They should go to my dealer, who has offered me a couple of earlier M2 slots as buyers have dropped out.

[mofomat]

Originally Posted by NISFAN

With discounts there isn't a huge difference cost wise between an M2 and its bigger and faster sibling the M3 and M4.

Do you understand how supply and demand works? If supply for the M2 and M3/M4 was equal then your comment would make sense.

Why do you think there are discounts on the M3/M4 and yet there are none on the M2?

Originally Posted by NISFAN

Two pretty compelling reasons why many buyers would plumb for the M3/4.

"Many buyers" don't have a choice because the waiting list for the M2 is so long.

[mofomat]

Originally Posted by NISFAN

They should go to my dealer, who has offered me a couple of earlier M2 slots as buyers have dropped out.

Being "offered" a slot is one thing. When they've offered that slot to everybody on the list and they still can't sell it, then we can talk.

[mofomat]

Originally Posted by Brigand

Yep, at moment I can get an M4 quite a bit cheaper than an M2.

If they don't manage to up production, the M2 runs risk of being a low production, restricted colour build.

"Risk". You mean like the 1M which has become completely depreciation proof and highly desirable. Oh, NISFAN , that has the N54 engine which was regarded as inferior to the then new N55 engine.