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      10-05-2013, 06:18 PM   #111
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At damn near $70,000 am I the only one who thinks this car is greatly over priced. Do you know what that type of money can get you in the slightly used car market
Yeah thats the only problem with the new 4 series(especially an Xdrive), if you're getting a 435i m sport with coral red leather and some options, youre already looking at like 62-64k without tax... I am a big bmw fan but with that money, I would consider a few other options...
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Are you sure it doesn't have rear LED tubes like the LCI 3's?

It's 100% trash bullshit if not.
Yeah, but looks like the front turns went back to bulbs.
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At damn near $70,000 am I the only one who thinks this car is greatly over priced. Do you know what that type of money can get you in the slightly used car market
The car shown is 55k msrp
Has msport, leather, xdrive, dhp, heated seats, and cameras/pdc... I wouldn't pay 70k either! I am totally happy with the options I got... Still has plenty of standard features like Bluetooth and power seats, etc.
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      10-06-2013, 09:53 PM   #116
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I just went to my local BMW dealer and was surprised they had the M Performance Pack II which includes performance exhaust and a power kit that increase horsepower to 330 and 379ft/lb. I asked the sales rep to start it up. Doesn't sound as nice as the 335is exhaust but has a decent sound.
Have to go for a test drive next time.
$70,000 for a 4 series?
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Looks Fantastic. What is the digital readout in the last picture...is that in the air vent...?
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is it just me or does Audi S5 look better?
Not, it's not just you. I think the 4-series is the better car--the A5/S5 platform is getting really old at this point--but the S5 is certainly better looking. That doesn't mean that the 4 is BAD looking -- it's a good looking coupe; but the A5/S5 has a gorgeous, timeless design that's hard to compete against.
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At damn near $70,000 am I the only one who thinks this car is greatly over priced. Do you know what that type of money can get you in the slightly used car market

I think you're going to be seeing a lot of 435i, especially with xdrive, right at a $60k price point in the U.S. And you're right, you will see some fully optioned 4s approaching $70k, especially if you start adding M-performance options.

Is that too much / over priced? I go back and forth on this and take a "yes and no" approach. Does that seem over the car's fundamental value? Kind of. Before pricing started coming out I--and many other people who I would chat with about this--sort of expected the 435 to be a car that would be comfortably in the 50s, fully loaded. BMW obviously had different thoughts.

On the other hand, I think BMW is really intelligent and knows their niches well and is aware that they can get away with this. Example of this "knowing your niche": you want a sporty coupe, with all-wheel-drive, and a stick. What are your options? You have the 435i, you have the S5, and ... next stop is Carrera territory. So, when you think that way, all of a sudden, the BMW looks "just right" -- in the same range as the S5 and you tell yourself, "hell, I'm saving $30k versus going out and buying a Carrera 4."
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