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      04-11-2013, 06:56 PM   #1
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As you know, both the 3 Series and 1 Series are fitted with a good ol' fashioned mechanical lever handbrake. Hooligans rejoice!

Kindly skip to 1:25 on this video of the M135i Sport Auto:



The driver, who previously put the selector lever in M/S, performs a flamboyant handbrake turn.

To pose my question as eloquently as I can; wouldn't this fuck the transmission?

Moreover, the rapid exit of the 2 door hatch has clearly been rehearsed, so I assume the handbrake turn has also been practiced - making this no one pull wonder.

I've been meaning to post this since Christmas to satisfy my curiosity but kept forgetting and couldn't be arsed to do so when I did remember.

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Why do you think he used the handbrake?

A quick decisive stab of the brakes to unweight the rear, turn in briskly, add excess throttle and counter steer for the remainder of the corner - showy but slow.

If the handbrake is used at speed, it is a bit hard on the handbrake (a good amount of heat and wear) but it will not hurt the transmission.
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Why do you think he used the handbrake?

A quick decisive stab of the brakes to unweight the rear, turn in briskly, add excess throttle and counter steer for the remainder of the corner - showy but slow.

If the handbrake is used at speed, it is a bit hard on the handbrake (a good amount of heat and wear) but it will not hurt the transmission.
Not the corner, the after 1:25 it appears that he used the handbrake to spin the car to a stop.
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Why do you think he used the handbrake?

A quick decisive stab of the brakes to unweight the rear, turn in briskly, add excess throttle and counter steer for the remainder of the corner - showy but slow.

If the handbrake is used at speed, it is a bit hard on the handbrake (a good amount of heat and wear) but it will not hurt the transmission.
Noo after that, it's clearly a handbrake slide! The car even recognises this is a dangerous/extreme manoeuvre and deploys the hazard lights as the car just about comes to a stop.
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Sorry, I thought you meant the pendulum turn.

No, this will not hurt the transmission. The center diff is open (not locked).
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As you know, both the 3 Series and 1 Series are fitted with a good ol' fashioned mechanical lever handbrake. Hooligans rejoice!

Kindly skip to 1:25 on this video of the M135i Sport Auto:

The driver, who previously put the selector lever in M/S, performs a flamboyant handbrake turn.

To pose my question as eloquently as I can; wouldn't this fuck the transmission?

Moreover, the rapid exit of the 2 door hatch has clearly been rehearsed, so I assume the handbrake turn has also been practiced - making this no one pull wonder.

I've been meaning to post this since Christmas to satisfy my curiosity but kept forgetting and couldn't be arsed to do so when I did remember.

Do discuss!
No trans damage, as there is no reason that slide would cause any.
He didn't spin the car, the car simply came to a stop with the rear coming around, which is what is happening during a RWD drift as he was doing during the ad.
Cool drifts too!

Makes me miss my 135i.
If BMW still offered the M135i I would have gone for that instead of my
335i Msport.

Thanks for posting the vid.
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Sorry, I thought you meant the pendulum turn.

No, this will not hurt the transmission. The center diff is open (not locked).
Huh, that's good then.

Didn't think the transmission would like being stopped immediately whilst in Drive with the handbrake.

All good then! AT owners, handbrake turn away!
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You could always put it in neutral just before the handbrake!
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You could always put it in neutral just before the handbrake!
Still need your foot on the brake to put it into N from D on the move don't you?
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can just push it in N. I wouldn't bother though
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can just push it in N. I wouldn't bother though
Oh really? Interesting. Yeah I don't think I'll bother either, I'd rather not stretch the handbrake cable or flat spot the tyres!
Is the car quite happy to go back into D from N on the move?
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