[86rexer]

Gents and Madames

Some back story.
I have a 2013 X3 with the N20 4 banger. In May the engine let go because of the timing guide. 123k on it....relatively low mileage considering.

We contacted BMW to sort this out cause a new engine is worth more than the vehicle and were basically told no.

So in the interim we sourced a used 2015 N20 with new guides, etc and had it installed.
Today I ran across a CA suit being considered by a firm out of London that targets this particular engine.
If you have been denied any sort of help please add your name to the list


http://www.newswire.ca/news-releases...651301863.html

https://www.siskinds.com/bmw-engine/

Let BMW take some heat for this.

Thanks

[7iM3less]

Good to know there is a lawsuit taking place on this issue in Canada. I hope people do their part and participate if they are experiencing this problem.

I was at BMW Toronto the other day and one of the staff were talking about the huge pile of "claims" they are currently dealing with. Not sure what that meant...hopefully in the owners favours.

[Kailec]

Interesting. Considering I just bought a CPO for a 2013 I wonder if I can join. Are you all joining?

[BlueCrabMafia]

Why just the N20 engine? N26 shares the same timing components as the N20.

[F30inthe6ix]

Originally Posted by Kailec

Interesting. Considering I just bought a CPO for a 2013 I wonder if I can join. Are you all joining?

Yeah, I'm in the same boat, except my car is 2012 and I bought it almost two years ago.

I'm interested in finding out more on this if possible.

[desmat]

I have subscribed even tough I have no problem for now.

[anotheran]

Originally Posted by BlueCrabMafia

Why just the N20 engine? N26 shares the same timing components as the N20.

The timing belt issue affected early N20/N26 engines and majority of those were mounted on early 328i since it was the only engine. N26 came out later and most included the updated timing belt as a running change

[BlueCrabMafia]

Originally Posted by anotheran

The timing belt issue affected early N20/N26 engines and majority of those were mounted on early 328i since it was the only engine. N26 came out later and most included the updated timing belt as a running change

Not true. I have a 2012 F30 328i with an N26.

[bobblehead]

When the new F30 chassis BMW 328i was released in early 2012, all of them came with the 4 cylinder N20 engine. The N20 engine is rated as a Ultra Low Emissions Vehicle (ULEV).

However, starting around March 2012 build date, BMW started replacing the N20 engines with the N26 engine. The N26 engine is rated as a Super Ultra Low Emissions Vehicle (SULEV). There are 13 states that will have SULEV cars. They are California, Arizona, Conneticut, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, Vermont, Washington and the District of Columbia. Thus, 99% of the cars built after March 2012 in those states are N26 engines. While, the remaining states should have N20 engines

[BlueCrabMafia]

Originally Posted by bobblehead

When the new F30 chassis BMW 328i was released in early 2012, all of them came with the 4 cylinder N20 engine. The N20 engine is rated as a Ultra Low Emissions Vehicle (ULEV).

However, starting around March 2012 build date, BMW started replacing the N20 engines with the N26 engine. The N26 engine is rated as a Super Ultra Low Emissions Vehicle (SULEV). There are 13 states that will have SULEV cars. They are California, Arizona, Conneticut, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, Vermont, Washington and the District of Columbia. Thus, 99% of the cars built after March 2012 in those states are N26 engines. While, the remaining states should have N20 engines

That's great info. However the N20/N26 are identical internally. It makes sense that the firm representing this case would list both motors if they are targeting timing chain failures, not just the N20.

The only thing that separates the two motors is emissions related components. The internal mechanics of the motors (timing components) are the same.

[uncleruckus]

I dont think there are that many n26 engines here in Canada compared to the N20

[instalher]

so when did bmw fix the timing chain issue?? 2013 2014 2015??

[bobblehead]

MY2016 I believe

[anotheran]

Originally Posted by bobblehead

MY2016 I believe

Phased in on 01/01/2015 per http://www.rightfootdown.com/cars/au...nents-n26-too/ but the old chain was still used until 02/06/2015 per realoem

[instalher]

my build date is 10/13 and is a 320ixdrive, should I sign the petition then

[86rexer]

Originally Posted by instalher

my build date is 10/13 and is a 320ixdrive, should I sign the petition then

The point is to gather as many people that have the N20, whether it's in a 3 or an X3. Also the aim not to let BMW off the hook for the problems associated with the engine.
Spread the word and sign up.

[OwnAge]

I'll let my brother read this. His 328i engine went bad too. Now the car been on the lots for months until we source new engine. Very expensive. Poor car still on the lot sitting and its in such good condition too. Sad. The damn engine and work is too expensive.
Bmw obviously wont help.

[Kailec]

Originally Posted by OwnAge

I'll let my brother read this. His 328i engine went bad too. Now the car been on the lots for months until we source new engine. Very expensive. Poor car still on the lot sitting and its in such good condition too. Sad. The damn engine and work is too expensive.
Bmw obviously wont help.

These class actions lawsuits never amount to much for the wronged. Lawyers pocket most of the money. The amount you'll be awarded will not be anywhere near enough for a new engine unfortunately.

[uncleruckus]

Pretty much, only the lawyers win in class action suits lol.

What I am also not happy about is BMWCA not extending the warranty for the timing chain like BMWNA did for its customers.

[LiquidMercury]

Originally Posted by instalher

my build date is 10/13 and is a 320ixdrive, should I sign the petition then

Can't hurt.

The action seeks to represent all persons who purchased or leased a BMW vehicle containing the N20 engine during the period between 2012-2015.

Originally Posted by Kailec

These class actions lawsuits never amount to much for the wronged. Lawyers pocket most of the money. The amount you'll be awarded will not be anywhere near enough for a new engine unfortunately.

Most likely, but I'd take 1% of something than 0%.

[F30inthe6ix]

Originally Posted by LiquidMercury

Can't hurt.




Most likely, but I'd take 1% of something than 0%.

I'd be happy with a warranty extension issued by BMW Canada. I'd rather have piece of mind than a bit of cash which likely wouldn't be enough to even cover the repair if it came to it.

[sspade]

In the US... we have an extended warranty related to this repair. All of us are covered until 70k miles (113k km).

Are you Canadian folk not covered under this extended warranty?