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      04-29-2015, 04:47 PM   #67
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Ask all the Suburu BRZ and Toyota FRS owners. They all look fast yet powered by a 200hp engine, far from fast but pretty nice rides.

A 335/435 is not a 'common' car. Its one step below an M car with the rated HP..you're comparing apples to oranges here. For the record, the 428i Gran Coupe is listed at 5.6sec to 60. Maybe ~1 sec slower to that mark than the 335/435 but given its 70hp disadvantage and 2 pots less, it's pretty respectable and far from slow as you've stated
These evaluations are so person specific it is hard to draw any meaningful conclusion for yourself. It comes down to the individual and what your expectations and experience are. For example, I test drove a BRZ, but it was just too slow for me. I owned an Audi S4 (V8) that was frustrating because you would be doing 100 mph before getting out of third gear. So for me, and others, the N20 is a nice place in the middle. These BMW engines, even the 4 pot, are so sweet, you just want to rev them! A few other data points: my 128i: I wish it had more low end power for daily driving, but above 3000 rpm it pulls nicely, and will run all day at the track without going to limp mode. My Volvo S60: nice car, powerful engine, but sounds like it is going to self destruct at high revs compared to the 128i.
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These evaluations are so person specific it is hard to draw any meaningful conclusion for yourself. It comes down to the individual and what your expectations and experience are. For example, I test drove a BRZ, but it was just too slow for me. I owned an Audi S4 (V8) that was frustrating because you would be doing 100 mph before getting out of third gear. So for me, and others, the N20 is a nice place in the middle. These BMW engines, even the 4 pot, are so sweet, you just want to rev them! A few other data points: my 128i: I wish it had more low end power for daily driving, but above 3000 rpm it pulls nicely, and will run all day at the track without going to limp mode. My Volvo S60: nice car, powerful engine, but sounds like it is going to self destruct at high revs compared to the 128i.
The N52 sounds so good through the rev range, I loved stretching out my old 328 N52. The exhaust note was lovely.
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A 335/435 is not a 'common' car. Its one step below an M car with the rated HP..you're comparing apples to oranges here. For the record, the 428i Gran Coupe is listed at 5.6sec to 60. Maybe ~1 sec slower to that mark than the 335/435 but given its 70hp disadvantage and 2 pots less, it's pretty respectable and far from slow as you've stated
I don't think you should take it personally.. "fast" is so relative and dependent on where you are coming from.

for what it is worth, I think that other member said it a bit abruptly but I do agree the 335i in stock form is not "fast".... (and yes I own an F30 335)
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Ask all the Suburu BRZ and Toyota FRS owners. They all look fast yet powered by a 200hp engine, far from fast but pretty nice rides.

A 335/435 is not a 'common' car. Its one step below an M car with the rated HP..you're comparing apples to oranges here. For the record, the 428i Gran Coupe is listed at 5.6sec to 60. Maybe ~1 sec slower to that mark than the 335/435 but given its 70hp disadvantage and 2 pots less, it's pretty respectable and far from slow as you've stated
The FRS definitely does not "look" fast to me

I say common in the sense that it's not a supercar, or track ready car (like M's or AMG's) so yes it is a common car since it's just a 3 series after all. When comparing it with other common non-racing line cars, it definitely is considered fast.

On the other hand a 428i may be quick enough for most, but definitely doesn't look its part with an M package on it...That's just my opinion

High 5's is respectable but nowhere near quick nowadays...you know a basic rental car v6 mustang is faster than that?
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And again I did drive a 328i 4cyl turbo one before and they are really fun to drive and have plenty of power, my whole argument is towards the fact that people get an aggressive kit on a car that doesn't really have the power to back up that aggressive look

Reminds me of kit cars, Ferrari looks but really is a Fiero with a small engine...What's the point in that?
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On the other hand a 428i may be quick enough for most, but definitely doesn't look its part with an M package on it...That's just my opinion
I kind of agree with you in a way. I have a 428GC M-Sport and I love the way it looks, but sometimes when I look back at it after parking, especially the front view with the massive air intakes it's definitely not as fast as it looks. I think the same applies to the 335/435 M-Sport, they're just not as fast as they look. I think this is why so many 335 owners add the MPPK; stock there's just not much difference from the N20 real-world, although it sounds very good.

Still it's quick enough for me, I'm sure I'd lose my license if I had an M car!
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I kind of agree with you in a way. I have a 428GC M-Sport and I love the way it looks, but sometimes when I look back at it after parking, especially the front view with the massive air intakes it's definitely not as fast as it looks. I think the same applies to the 335/435 M-Sport, they're just not as fast as they look. I think this is why so many 335 owners add the MPPK; stock there's just not much difference from the N20 real-world, although it sounds very good.

Still it's quick enough for me, I'm sure I'd lose my license if I had an M car!
Agree that the 335i is not fast compared to M cars, amgs, porsches, but like I said compared to every day cars it definitely is fast and even real world its a big difference with the N20...

I drove the N20 and the feeling is a lot different, feels like a totally different car
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I kind of agree with you in a way. I have a 428GC M-Sport and I love the way it looks, but sometimes when I look back at it after parking, especially the front view with the massive air intakes it's definitely not as fast as it looks. I think the same applies to the 335/435 M-Sport, they're just not as fast as they look. I think this is why so many 335 owners add the MPPK; stock there's just not much difference from the N20 real-world, although it sounds very good.

Still it's quick enough for me, I'm sure I'd lose my license if I had an M car!
and don't forget with just a tune, the 335i can be as fast as an M car, but I don't think the same can be said of the N20

Don't get me wrong though, I think those are great cars as well...just speaking of the M package being added on them
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and don't forget with just a tune, the 335i can be as fast as an M car
Which tuner and is it a pump gas tune? Id be interested in my f30 335 trapping 119mph just from a tune but pretty sure that doesn't exist and even full bolt ons is not as fast

Or are you comparing to e36 and e46 m3?
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Which tuner and is it a pump gas tune? Id be interested in my f30 335 trapping 119mph just from a tune but pretty sure that doesn't exist and even full bolt ons is not as fast

Or are you comparing to e36 and e46 m3?
Sorry meant just as quick (quick is for 0-60, fast is for top speed), usually mix the 2 words together...

I think from just a tune an f30 335i can be as quick as a stock f80 m3, correct?
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Sorry meant just as quick (quick is for 0-60, fast is for top speed), usually mix the 2 words together...

I think from just a tune an f30 335i can be as quick as a stock f80 m3, correct?
I looked into this a little bit before getting my F80

For the F80, if i recall correctly owners on that forum are getting something in the neighborhood of 12s flat in the 1/4 mile with trap speeds in the 119mph range. No one really discussed 0-60mph but it weems like community/magazine consensus is that car is in the 3.8-3.9s range (bone stock with stock PSS tires)

From what I recall of the F30 335 track forum a JB4 + higher octane (E85 mixture) car is in the high 12s @ 108mph range.

It does seem like the F30 335 would need to go full bolt on plus meth to maybe get to the stock F80 acceleration level, and a turbo swap would be good to be sure to pull on the stock F80
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I will say after driving around all weekend, the 428 is fast enough for me. Slapping it into sports mode is all I need. Though I may look into a Dinan performance tune....not totally sure on that yet.

Also while I think it looks good with the m sport body work, I don't think it looks bonkers fast, especially in all black without additional body mods (black wheels, etc).

This is also coming from someone who had a naturally aspirated 4 cylinder 2006 cayenne so....anything is an upgrade in terms of performance lol
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The kit doesn't make it look fast you moron. It makes it look aggressive. The new 28i models are no slouch, especially not with a tune.

Most of us 28i people that have loaded F32's or F30's could have easily had your precious 35i but chose the 28i for practical reasons.

As a matter of fact, my F32 is worth 55k, I could have gotten a similar equipped F30 335i for the same exact price.

Sorry for ruining all your logic, or lack thereof.
Someone's mad I like how you think your opinion is fact haha To me the M Package makes the car look fast just standing still vs the regular body so you can see what you want that's my opinion deal with it

Chose the 28i for practical reasons yet spent the same amount that you would have on a 335i LMAO I suggest you take some college level courses and stop leeching off your parent's money kid

P.S. what kind of idiot spends 55k on a 428i LOL oh man, take some finance courses while you're at it too
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The kit doesn't make it look fast you moron. It makes it look aggressive. The new 28i models are no slouch, especially not with a tune.

Most of us 28i people that have loaded F32's or F30's could have easily had your precious 35i but chose the 28i for practical reasons.

As a matter of fact, my F32 is worth 55k, I could have gotten a similar equipped F30 335i for the same exact price.

Sorry for ruining all your logic, or lack thereof.
Someone's mad I like how you think your opinion is fact haha To me the M Package makes the car look fast just standing still vs the regular body so you can see what you want that's my opinion deal with it

Chose the 28i for practical reasons yet spent the same amount that you would have on a 335i LMAO I suggest you take some college level courses and stop leeching off your parent's money kid

P.S. what kind of idiot spends 55k on a 428i LOL oh man, take some finance courses while you're at it too
I paid $62k for my 435 GC with MPE and MPPK. That make me an idiot?
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The FRS definitely does not "look" fast to me

I say common in the sense that it's not a supercar, or track ready car (like M's or AMG's) so yes it is a common car since it's just a 3 series after all. When comparing it with other common non-racing line cars, it definitely is considered fast.

On the other hand a 428i may be quick enough for most, but definitely doesn't look its part with an M package on it...That's just my opinion

High 5's is respectable but nowhere near quick nowadays...you know a basic rental car v6 mustang is faster than that?
Which cars to you look 'fast' (other than the exotics and the pony car club) I'm curious. Yes..I know the new V6 mustang is plenty quick. I doubt people are adding the M package to their cars to make them look faster. They may just like the way it looks with the additional aero kit on it. I see rear spoilers on everything nowadays. You really think the car makes any use of it? It's for aesthetics I'm sure. I don't have any plans on adding any body kits to mine as I like the way it looks stock. If a company comes out with a nice rear spoiler that fits the GC, I might do that. Not because it makes it look fast..but because it'll personalize it more for me over the other GCs I see. If I wanted fast, I would have bought a Porsche etc., not a 428i. I wanted a good looking car that was different and drove well. BMWs model fit the bill. Done. Oh..I wouldn't trade my car for any new Mustang with the lone exception of the new GT350(R) car.
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I paid $62k for my 435 GC with MPE and MPPK. That make me an idiot?
You got a top of the line model (M is a seperate division) and additional performance parts for not much more than that guy paid for his 428i, big difference
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M Sport on a 428i is like having Ferrari looks with Fiesta power
After many months lurking on the Post and Fest forums, I'm still amazed (and continually amused) by the 435i guys who feel the need to jack threads to troll us satisfied 428i owners about our supposedly feeble and underpowered cars. Now, I'm being told that my F32 M-sport simply is not worthy of its looks. What a wanker!
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M Sport on a 428i is like having Ferrari looks with Fiesta power
After many months lurking on the Post and Fest forums, I'm still amazed (and continually amused) by the 435i guys who feel the need to jack threads to troll us satisfied 428i owners about our supposedly feeble and underpowered cars. Now, I'm being told that my F32 M-sport simply is not worthy of its looks. What a wanker!
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After many months lurking on the Post and Fest forums, I'm still amazed (and continually amused) by the 435i guys who feel the need to jack threads to troll us satisfied 428i owners about our supposedly feeble and underpowered cars. Now, I'm being told that my F32 M-sport simply is not worthy of its looks. What a wanker!
Who jacked a thread? The guy wanted an opinion, I simply stated to not get the M package if he's getting a 428i.

You sound bitter about your choice, thats your fault not mine.

M sport to me should only be an option for the top engine choice for any series, want the fast looking one that also has the most powerful engine then pay for it, if not theres nothing wrong with the base/sport 20i/28i.

People want to make it personal like im bashing the other cars when Ive already said multiple times I think the other cars are great, its just an opinion about the M sport package
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Who jacked a thread? The guy wanted an opinion, I simply stated to not get the M package if he's getting a 428i.

You sound bitter about your choice, thats your fault not mine.

M sport to me should only be an option for the top engine choice for any series, want the fast looking one that also has the most powerful engine then pay for it, if not theres nothing wrong with the base/sport 20i/28i.

People want to make it personal like im bashing the other cars when Ive already said multiple times I think the other cars are great, its just an opinion about the M sport package
LOL and this opinion make you sound like an entitled prick. "Oh, only the fast car should get the sooooo exclusive Msport package" yet you think you're hot shit in your 3 series.

My parents haven't paid for anything btw. I pay for my own stuff and I buy what I want. I guess this jab was you just being upset that at 19 I can afford stuck that took you who knows how long to be able to afford

If you want to come say that all of us 428i owners that spent 55k are stupid I will setup a meet and you can come tell it to our face

55k gets you a stripped 335, and I would rather have a loaded 428 then a loaded 335.

You clearly did jack the thread with your ridiculous comment, you were trying to start shit.
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Someone's mad I like how you think your opinion is fact haha To me the M Package makes the car look fast just standing still vs the regular body so you can see what you want that's my opinion deal with it

Chose the 28i for practical reasons yet spent the same amount that you would have on a 335i LMAO I suggest you take some college level courses and stop leeching off your parent's money kid

P.S. what kind of idiot spends 55k on a 428i LOL oh man, take some finance courses while you're at it too

BTW I find it funny how not long ago you weren't acting like such a douche, I guess the 335 turned you into one:

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Last time I checked, people don't drive 150mph but then again maybe you do with your uber fast 435i that is god sent
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And close enough 1/4 mile....very surprised.

Should I consider a 428i, it actually puts down nice numbers!!

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...ed-test-review

http://www.caranddriver.com/comparis...mw-435i-page-2
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