[quikM2]

Originally Posted by ScubaJ813

I can confirm... Ohlins does not fit any xdrive F-series vehicle. I confirmed this with their BMW specialist, who is working on the E-series xdrive kit now, so F series will come... but much later.

I can't offer any feedback, but seems like there is quite a lack of options for Xdrive models. I haven't pulled the trigger yet but I am going to pick up the H&R coilovers myself. Add the sway bars and its a pretty complete kit for $2000. I'm stuck with the stock suspension which anything is going to be an upgrade...

Originally Posted by FaRKle!

You sure they won't work with adjustable or RWD end links? andino is running a set of RWD B14's on his xdrive car with adjustable end links.

So i made my decision and went with the dinan springs and the dinan bumpstops courtesy of FaRKle! as well as the shockware. What will that combo be giving up in yours or anyone feel free to chime in compared to the B14's lets say or the KW's other than adjustability. Would the handling upgrade be noticeable in street driving to step up to those coil over setups or would it only really come out on the track? I have my M day coming up July 4 and 5 at the track and while the M2 will be a blast I will want to try and drive the car with the springs / shockware and see what it feels like. I am going to keep the crap RFT S001 tires on there for the track day as I want to take my $ worth out of them as they are brand new. Later this summer I will swap to MP4S.

[SoCalCarGuy]

Originally Posted by quikM2

So i made my decision and went with the dinan springs and the dinan bumpstops courtesy of FaRKle! as well as the shockware. What will that combo be giving up in yours or anyone feel free to chime in compared to the B14's lets say or the KW's other than adjustability. Would the handling upgrade be noticeable in street driving to step up to those coil over setups or would it only really come out on the track? I have my M day coming up July 4 and 5 at the track and while the M2 will be a blast I will want to try and drive the car with the springs / shockware and see what it feels like. I am going to keep the crap RFT S001 tires on there for the track day as I want to take my $ worth out of them as they are brand new. Later this summer I will swap to MP4S.

How did it go

[quikM2]

Originally Posted by SoCalCarGuy

How did it go

Well I got the shockware and dinan springs put on the day before M day at the track. unfortunately some glitch occured during the shockware flash and a warning message chassis stabilization fault pops up on start up and it locks the car in comfort mode which is brutal. I never even drove my car on the track because of it. I did however get to rip the M2 comp, the M5 comp, the M4CS and the M340i all over the place over two days because of the screw up so not the worst result. i take it back tuesday to get it figured out and will post my thoughts once I actually get to drive it in sport which is the point of shockware. the drop on the springs though looks great. I can't believe how high xdrive sits from the factory...

[Genieman]

Originally Posted by quikM2

Well I got the shockware and dinan springs put on the day before M day at the track. unfortunately some glitch occured during the shockware flash and a warning message chassis stabilization fault pops up on start up and it locks the car in comfort mode which is brutal. I never even drove my car on the track because of it. I did however get to rip the M2 comp, the M5 comp, the M4CS and the M340i all over the place over two days because of the screw up so not the worst result. i take it back tuesday to get it figured out and will post my thoughts once I actually get to drive it in sport which is the point of shockware. the drop on the springs though looks great. I can't believe how high xdrive sits from the factory...

I just got the dinan springs and bump stops done. No Shockware YET. Looks 1000 times better, that gap was getting to me. Feels more solid and firm yet small bumps are smoother. Stock suspension is under-dampened. In comfort it's bouncy. In sport it's good. Can't wait for Shockware so my comfort is the current sport and get a firmer option. Will prob help a lot when I change wheels and tires too. Overall I'm happy with the look and feel. And reduced body roll.

[quikM2]

Originally Posted by Genieman

I just got the dinan springs and bump stops done. No Shockware YET. Looks 1000 times better, that gap was getting to me. Feels more solid and firm yet small bumps are smoother. Stock suspension is under-dampened. In comfort it's bouncy. In sport it's good. Can't wait for Shockware so my comfort is the current sport and get a firmer option. Will prob help a lot when I change wheels and tires too. Overall I'm happy with the look and feel. And reduced body roll.

Well I really hope shockware takes for you as they couldn't get it on my car and dinan just threw their hands up and said 'we don't know..'

My dealership has said all of dinan's stuff on new model cars has been glitchy as bmw has been "doing something" that doesn't let it 'take' like it used to whatever that means. My story is after getting the springs done and installing shockware my car went into a chassis satbilization fault which locked the car in comfort mode. They tried a bunch of things but couldn't get shockware to stick so now I'm back to sport mode stock EDC with the dinan springs. i am pretty frustrated as I bought the springs to go with the bump stops and shockware all as one system. to now have one piece missing is quite annoying. the springs on their own are ok in sport mode but it is missing that little extra aggressive bit that I am sure comes with shockware in sport mode.

[Jvac]

Originally Posted by quikM2

Well I really hope shockware takes for you as they couldn't get it on my car and dinan just threw their hands up and said 'we don't know..'

My dealership has said all of dinan's stuff on new model cars has been glitchy as bmw has been "doing something" that doesn't let it 'take' like it used to whatever that means. My story is after getting the springs done and installing shockware my car went into a chassis satbilization fault which locked the car in comfort mode. They tried a bunch of things but couldn't get shockware to stick so now I'm back to sport mode stock EDC with the dinan springs. i am pretty frustrated as I bought the springs to go with the bump stops and shockware all as one system. to now have one piece missing is quite annoying. the springs on their own are ok in sport mode but it is missing that little extra aggressive bit that I am sure comes with shockware in sport mode.

I read in another thread where a guy had the same trouble but on a subsequent visit to the dealer, or perhaps another shop(can't remember which) they were able to successfully get the shockware installed. Perhaps wait a few days and try again?

[teapain]

I've had the Dinan Shockware w/ Dinan springs my first two years. Not bad. Being able to go soft when you want is super nice.

I'm on B6s and Dinan springs now. Love it. But if it's a new car, I would go with the former. Then once your adaptive are shit after 70k miles and you dont want to pay $2k+ for replacement ones then get the B14s.

[quikM2]

Originally Posted by Jvac

I read in another thread where a guy had the same trouble but on a subsequent visit to the dealer, or perhaps another shop(can't remember which) they were able to successfully get the shockware installed. Perhaps wait a few days and try again?

Thats what dinan said - they want to try again so definitely worth a shot. I am taking it back later this week.

[Tallest]

I really wish we have a common thread organized by setups on F30s, with poll options, and outlining most popular setups and people reviwing. Im in the same boat unhappy with my handling (stock ride height) and I really wish the car had something a little better, and torn between so many options.

[quikM2]

Originally Posted by Tallest

I really wish we have a common thread organized by setups on F30s, with poll options, and outlining most popular setups and people reviwing. Im in the same boat unhappy with my handling (stock ride height) and I really wish the car had something a little better, and torn between so many options.

It's pretty crazy how many options and variations nevermind opinions you will find on each. too many are subjective and just governed by feel and then everyones version of 'stiff' or overdamped is going to be different. There seems to be a general consensus around a few of the more popular setups but what will it feel like to you is the question.

I think one thing we can all agree on though is the F30 weak link is the suspension. It floats and rolls and bounces and sits too high. how you personally address those issues is the conundrum...

[Chicken_Joe]

Have shockware and 100% reccome d unless you get the Billstein adaptive dampers and shockware together

[Tallest]

Originally Posted by quikM2

It's pretty crazy how many options and variations nevermind opinions you will find on each. too many are subjective and just governed by feel and then everyones version of 'stiff' or overdamped is going to be different. There seems to be a general consensus around a few of the more popular setups but what will it feel like to you is the question.

I think one thing we can all agree on though is the F30 weak link is the suspension. It floats and rolls and bounces and sits too high. how you personally address those issues is the conundrum...

Im considering to take the pricier M Performance suspension option vs all these after market ones purely for warranty and longevity. I wish we knew what Alpina is using for suspension on B3s because everyone raves about it. if i could retrofit Alpina springs and shocks I reckon it will be x2 better than many other aftermarket options...

[quikM2]

UPDATE - 2 days of a bmw master technician working with the dinan engineer and they still can't get shockware on my car... wow

[SoCalCarGuy]

Originally Posted by quikM2

UPDATE - 2 days of a bmw master technician working with the dinan engineer and they still can't get shockware on my car... wow

try a different dinan dealer

[quikM2]

Originally Posted by SoCalCarGuy

try a different dinan dealer

Thanks for that ....I have one authorized dinan dealer in my entire province... They currently have it in the BMW dealership and the actual dinan engineering department is working on it with them. Nothing to do with the dealer - this is technical at this point.

[quikM2]

To close the thread and last update - saga is over and they couldn't get shockware on my car after another week of trying. Dinan was heavily involved and informed me they found same build date 340i with the same coding in the cpu etc. and those cars took shockware and mine would not without the chassis fault error. Once they saw that they gave up. Classy response from Dinan however as they refunded shockware which you would expect but on top of that they offered to pay the dealership to remove the dinan springs and put my car back to stock or in other words the dealership could install another spring/shock combo or coilover option of my choice. That's going full out for customer service in my opinion. I think I am done with the hassle though and my car being messed around with and might just leave the springs and bumpstops on their own and take a deal from dinan for the inconvenience and just settle it that way. Anyway there ya go...

[Jvac]

So disappointed to hear that they hit a wall with your install. I'm considering doing this setup too, but I guess now I would insist on getting the shockware in first to make sure it doesn't go down the way it did for you... At least Dinan sounds to be making amends for the inconvenience. Thanks for putting up all the details.

[quikM2]

Originally Posted by Jvac

So disappointed to hear that they hit a wall with your install. I'm considering doing this setup too, but I guess now I would insist on getting the shockware in first to make sure it doesn't go down the way it did for you... At least Dinan sounds to be making amends for the inconvenience. Thanks for putting up all the details.

Yes for sure do it the other way around. Had I any idea or they put a disclaimer in the print online or in dealership that this had a chance of not taking I would have waited to do the springs as that is a very pricey install to go back.

[exE36M3]

FWIW... try the KMAC or Turner Monoball... you may get that feel you were looking for.

I have a 2015 435i M Sport with adaptive suspension. It's a great compromise set-up stock, but after a year, I wanted the car a little lower and to pick up a little more "road-feel" a la my previous cars Miata, E36 M3, and BRZ.

I tried the Eibach Pro-kit... which is a pretty decent contributor to this road-feel wish... but I feel after adding the the Turner Monoball bushing... I kinda wish I skipped the springs and just went with the monoball.

The Monoball gets rid of that weird vague turn-in as well as the floaty feeling while in turn. It works in Comfort mode and even more so in Sport.

My theory about this float is that the stock Control/Thrust arm bushing is just an over compromise. It's a perfect thing for say for those who just wanted a comfy, big car feel. But if you want something with more steering feedback... over 1-inch of rubber (and liquid) just robs that feeling.

Farkle has the KMacs, I got the Turner ones. Install is maybe 1 hour per side tops on my RWD 435. Your X-drive might be longer.

[quikM2]

Originally Posted by percychow

FWIW... try the KMAC or Turner Monoball... you may get that feel you were looking for.

I have a 2015 435i M Sport with adaptive suspension. It's a great compromise set-up stock, but after a year, I wanted the car a little lower and to pick up a little more "road-feel" a la my previous cars Miata, E36 M3, and BRZ.

I tried the Eibach Pro-kit... which is a pretty decent contributor to this road-feel wish... but I feel after adding the the Turner Monoball bushing... I kinda wish I skipped the springs and just went with the monoball.

The Monoball gets rid of that weird vague turn-in as well as the floaty feeling while in turn. It works in Comfort mode and even more so in Sport.

My theory about this float is that the stock Control/Thrust arm bushing is just an over compromise. It's a perfect thing for say for those who just wanted a comfy, big car feel. But if you want something with more steering feedback... over 1-inch of rubber (and liquid) just robs that feeling.

Farkle has the KMacs, I got the Turner ones. Install is maybe 1 hour per side tops on my RWD 435. Your X-drive might be longer.

Thanks man I will definitely check that out. With Xdrive it absolutely needs the drop much more so than the RWD so springs were a must but that travel in the steering wheel is annoying. the turn in like you say could be so much sharper. If the monoball does that it might be the next mod for me. I am still pretty bummed about the shockware as even in sport while the springs alone are great I could use a little 'extra'...

[McLaren720s]

Originally Posted by percychow

FWIW... try the KMAC or Turner Monoball... you may get that feel you were looking for.

I have a 2015 435i M Sport with adaptive suspension. It's a great compromise set-up stock, but after a year, I wanted the car a little lower and to pick up a little more "road-feel" a la my previous cars Miata, E36 M3, and BRZ.

I tried the Eibach Pro-kit... which is a pretty decent contributor to this road-feel wish... but I feel after adding the the Turner Monoball bushing... I kinda wish I skipped the springs and just went with the monoball.

The Monoball gets rid of that weird vague turn-in as well as the floaty feeling while in turn. It works in Comfort mode and even more so in Sport.

My theory about this float is that the stock Control/Thrust arm bushing is just an over compromise. It's a perfect thing for say for those who just wanted a comfy, big car feel. But if you want something with more steering feedback... over 1-inch of rubber (and liquid) just robs that feeling.

Farkle has the KMacs, I got the Turner ones. Install is maybe 1 hour per side tops on my RWD 435. Your X-drive might be longer.

Can you list which Turner Monoball are you referring to? I visited their website but they seem to have a bunch of different ones. I’m getting B14 installed next month on I’m wondering if I can add this to the job.

Is it this one?
https://www.turnermotorsport.com/p-3...nstalled-arms/

Or the bushings?
https://www.turnermotorsport.com/p-3...oball-upgrade/

[exE36M3]

Hey Mac - yes I got this one...
https://www.turnermotorsport.com/p-3...nstalled-arms/

The two listings Turner has are the same ones.

I went with the ones INSTALLED in the arms because it's just one less thing to do. The ball joint is new, the arm is new, and the monoball is already pressed in there. So you just go in, unbolt, bolt-in, and done. It's a laughably easy job.

CAVEAT
The ride quality is significantly different. Smooth roads, no biggie. But with any road unevenness, rough roads, etc. you WILL feel it. The best way I can describe it, it is like the old E30BMWs or Miatas or even the newer BRZ.

But for me, my commute to work is super short (like less than 5 miles) and I have nice roads around town.

And yes, the turn in response, road feel, ZERO float are big upsides.

FWIW, I'm closing in on 50 so... I'm a bit more critical when it comes to cushy.