[CntryClub007]

Originally Posted by Serpent720

Just installed the M Performance Brake kit and did this the DSC coding, and braking feel is great. This is what I did

Using Esys 3.23.4 with psdzdata 51.1

1. Connect=>Expert Mode=>Coding=>Read FA=>Save FA
2. Editiors & Viewers=>FA-Editor=>Go to HO-Wort and right click to "Edit", then type (means add) "SPBR" under HO-Wort folder
3. Highlight the FA, "Activate FA" and "Calculate FA" to verify no error is found after adding the SPBR.
4. Check the Vehicle Profile to locate the "aftermarket retrofit" and verify the "SPBR_18_ZOLL_SPORTBRAKE" is added to the folder
5. Write FA to the car. No confirmation window will pop up after saving the FA to the car. So you need to go to next step for verification.
6. Expert Mode=>Coding=>Read FA. You are able to see the SPBR being added to the HO-Wort folder on your car.
7. Read SVT, and locate the "DSC" (File Folder SVT/ECU/DSC), then right click the "DSC" folder and select "Code". Coding would begin immediately.
8. Wait until the coding is finished, and repeat Step 1 to save a copy of the new FA.
9. Unplug the PC from the car. The M-Performance Brake is now enable and enjoy the genuine M-Performance Braking experience.

Again, the usual discliamer: "try this code on your own risk..blah blah blah...". I would not answer any question, sorry.
"Happy New Year" to all of you.
Thank you

Does this apply to front and rear?

[jebs2k]

question, i just upgraded stock 328 calipers/rotors (312mm) to the 335i (340mm 4 piston)
do i need to add fa S2NH?

[tgmsocal]

Originally Posted by jebs2k

question, i just upgraded stock 328 calipers/rotors (312mm) to the 335i (340mm 4 piston)
do i need to add fa S2NH?

Sorry to bump an old thread, but did you ever find an answer to this jebs2k?

Considering this upgrade and just want to know what I'm in for!

-tgm

[jebs2k]

Originally Posted by tgmsocal

Sorry to bump an old thread, but did you ever find an answer to this jebs2k?

Considering this upgrade and just want to know what I'm in for!

-tgm

no need, brakes performed great. i also noticed my rotor size was already set to 340mm when i went in to code

[sds0918]

It's safe to assume the "performance" big break kits are actually "m performance" that I see all the vendors advertising?

[vded]

Hello guys, I own a European BMW F20 (116i, N13 engine).
I've installed the M-Sport big brake kit (front and rear). Not the M-Performance.
Although from the dealer told me they have coded the car (there's only 1 coding procedure for both M-Sport and M-Performance), I feel the initial bite really bad compared to stock.
What parameters should I check in ESYS if they had the coding properly?

[david51]

http://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1146622

[vded]

Originally Posted by david51

http://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1146622

Thank you David for the link and the instructions.
So I must have these lines enabled because of the dealer told me they had made the coding.
I will give it a try and post back.

[Stoo]

I'm still lost as to whether or not I can/should add M Sport brake coding to normal 435d 4 pot calipers for improved feel...?

[david51]

Originally Posted by vded

Thank you David for the link and the instructions.
So I must have these lines enabled because of the dealer told me they had made the coding.
I will give it a try and post back.

[david51]

Originally Posted by Stoo

I'm still lost as to whether or not I can/should add M Sport brake coding to normal 435d 4 pot calipers for improved feel...?

I added it on my bmw F30 and I felt a difference of braking

[Stoo]

And it's OK with the stock 340mm discs and stock single piston rear calipers?
No issues, but improved feel?

[david51]

Originally Posted by Stoo

And it's OK with the stock 340mm discs and stock single piston rear calipers?
No issues, but improved feel?

yes

[Kabrich]

Originally Posted by shawnsheridan

The dealer uses ISTA/P. They Add HO-Wort SPBR and VO Code car. Why would it be necessary to do any FDL Coding, when the dealer does not?

I have a 335i MSport with the standard OEM NON-Msport Brakes on 19" OEM wheels.

Installing 6 Cylinder Brembo GT BBK rotors and brakes.

1) What EXACTLY does the M-Performance Brake coding do?

2) Should I code for MPerformance Brakes with the superior Brembo GT?

Any clarification you can give would be greatly appreciated.

[shawnsheridan]

Originally Posted by Kabrich

I have a 335i MSport with the standard OEM NON-Msport Brakes on 19" OEM wheels.

Installing 6 Cylinder Brembo GT BBK rotors and brakes.

1) What EXACTLY does the M-Performance Brake coding do?

2) Should I code for MPerformance Brakes with the superior Brembo GT?

Any clarification you can give would be greatly appreciated.

It is supposed to re code DSC for larger Rotor Size. I would expect larger Brembo BBK would need coding as well, but I have no idea how the Brembo Rotor compares to the ///M SPort Brake ones, thus how relevant the SPBR Coding is to the Brembo BBK.

[Kabrich]

Originally Posted by shawnsheridan

It is supposed to re code DSC for larger Rotor Size. I would expect larger Brembo BBK would need coding as well, but I have no idea how the Brembo Rotor compares to the ///M SPort Brake ones, thus how relevant the SPBR Coding is to the Brembo BBK.

Why would size of rotor matter in the coding?

[shawnsheridan]

Originally Posted by Kabrich

Why would size of rotor matter in the coding?

I never looked into that deep. I think answer is going to be rather technical related to DSC Parameters and the width of the rotor.

[Kabrich]

Originally Posted by shawnsheridan

I never looked into that deep. I think answer is going to be rather technical related to DSC Parameters and the width of the rotor.

Best guess an European Performance shop gave me, which makes the best guess / sense at this point is it might deal with how the ABS System works.

That's only a guess, but better than anything else I have heard - or that anyone has come up with for that matter.

[oceanview]

Originally Posted by shawnsheridan

The dealer uses ISTA/P. They Add HO-Wort SPBR and VO Code car. Why would it be necessary to do any FDL Coding, when the dealer does not?

I just checked in my car
In the Vehicle Profile the intalled Sport Brake is listed
[8] Aftermarket_Fitment
[1957] SPBR_18_ZOLL_SPORTBREMSE

In the DSC CAFD file.
C_Variante_Bremsscheibe_vorne_e
was still set to 30/340
C_Variante_Bremsscheibe_hinten_e
was still set to 20/330

I FDL coded these values to 30/370 and 24/345 (installed rotors).
I must admit no noticeable change in brake behaviour. Placebo effect yes, but not like day/night. In a blind comparison I doubt anyone would feel a difference.

Anyhow, I often read the people installing the 18" brake kit should code above values, but I never saw that coding of
C_Variante_Bremssattel_vorne_e
C_Variante_Bremssattel_hinten_e
also should be changed to the "right" values.

(They where set to the right values in my car 4-piston front/2-piston rear, although the rotor values where not)

Could it be, that changing these values has a much bigger impact, as it tells the DSC Module what calipers are installed?
DSC Module will possibly adapt the brake pressure and balance also based on these values?

[shawnsheridan]

Originally Posted by oceanview

...Could it be, that changing these values has a much bigger impact, as it tells the DSC Module what calipers are installed?
DSC Module will possibly adapt the brake pressure and balance also based on these values?

I don't know exactly, but I do know, as I wrote above, any official dealer install will be VO Coding only, and no additional FDL Coding.

[Jadar]

Originally Posted by oceanview

I just checked in my car
In the Vehicle Profile the intalled Sport Brake is listed
[8] Aftermarket_Fitment
[1957] SPBR_18_ZOLL_SPORTBREMSE

In the DSC CAFD file.
C_Variante_Bremsscheibe_vorne_e
was still set to 30/340
C_Variante_Bremsscheibe_hinten_e
was still set to 20/330

I FDL coded these values to 30/370 and 24/345 (installed rotors).
I must admit no noticeable change in brake behaviour. Placebo effect yes, but not like day/night. In a blind comparison I doubt anyone would feel a difference.

Anyhow, I often read the people installing the 18" brake kit should code above values, but I never saw that coding of
C_Variante_Bremssattel_vorne_e
C_Variante_Bremssattel_hinten_e
also should be changed to the "right" values.

(They where set to the right values in my car 4-piston front/2-piston rear, although the rotor values where not)

Could it be, that changing these values has a much bigger impact, as it tells the DSC Module what calipers are installed?
DSC Module will possibly adapt the brake pressure and balance also based on these values?

I VO coded SPBR under HO-wort yesterday and once FA was written to vehicle it shows up after you read FA and it's visible under aftermarket fitment as well as [1957] SPBR_18_ZOLL_SPORTBREMSE just like yours.

It made a very nice difference in pedal feel. Mush was eliminated and it is super nice now throughout the travel range of the pedal.

I also noticed under DSC it remained the factory setting of 340mm/330mm and coded to appropriate bigger disc sizes and FWIW I didn't notice any difference.

All this thanks to shawnsheridan super helpful and provided awesome step by step directions.

[oceanview]

Originally Posted by Dejan_

It made a very nice difference in pedal feel. Mush was eliminated and it is super nice now throughout the travel range of the pedal.

I also noticed under DSC it remained the factory setting of 340mm/330mm and coded to appropriate bigger disc sizes and FWIW I didn't notice any difference.

All this thanks to shawnsheridan super helpful and provided awesome step by step directions.

Just because I was wondering, I FDL coded the values
C_Variante_Bremsscheibe_vorne_e
C_Variante_Bremsattel_vorne_e
C_Variante_Bremsscheibe_hinten_e
C_Variante_Bremsattel_hinten_e
to the lowest possible like a 316i brake setup.
Took a drive around the block and didn't notice any difference.
(Then recoded the FDL to the right M Performance values.)

Didn't have much time to spend, just my quick impression.
I assume probably VO coding changes a bunch of values.
I also don't know, what exactly will change. (Initial brake pressure, emergency brake pressure, behaving of ABS/DSC, front rear brake balance....) I would be interested to know.