F30POST
F30POST
2012-2015 BMW 3-Series and 4-Series Forum
BMW Garage BMW Meets Register Today's Posts
BMW 3-Series and 4-Series Forum (F30 / F32) | F30POST > Technical Forums > B58 Turbo Engine / Drivetrain / Exhaust Modifications > Calculating E30 Blend
ARMA SPEED
Post Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      07-05-2019, 08:26 AM   #1
Solid67
Lieutenant
United_States
187
Rep
458
Posts

Drives: 2019 M240i xDrive MP Edition
Join Date: Mar 2019
Location: Fairfax, VA

iTrader: (0)

Calculating E30 Blend

Trying to figure out how to properly calculate an e30 blend so I can run the BM3 Stg 1 e30 OTS. BMW states that the m240i has a 13.5-gallon tank, but the other day when I ran my car to empty (dashboard said 3 miles to empty) and filled it up, it was 12.5 gallons.

I know e30 means 70 (93) / 30 (e85) blend but how many gallons of e85 would I need to put in before filling up the rest with 93?

Also, do I need to gap my spark plugs for e30?
Appreciate 1
      07-05-2019, 09:45 AM   #2
SoCalCarGuy
First Lieutenant
United_States
132
Rep
345
Posts

Drives: 2019 440ix cpe + 2018 x4 m40i
Join Date: Mar 2019
Location: LA, CA

iTrader: (0)

http://www.georgebelton.com/E85Calculator.php

.020-.022 gap
Appreciate 0
      07-06-2019, 03:56 AM   #3
Antec800
Lieutenant
128
Rep
462
Posts

Drives: 340i x drive
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: Michigan

iTrader: (0)

The miles left on tank isn’t 100 accurate when it shows 0 you usually have a little less then the gallon, and the miles left on tank changes on how you drive also
Appreciate 0
      07-12-2019, 03:39 PM   #4
Mkswoosh
First Lieutenant
Mkswoosh's Avatar
93
Rep
381
Posts

Drives: 2018 340xi tanzanite blue
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: Portland

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
I'm assuming it's better to have a little more than less ethanol when trying to reach that e30 calculation?
Appreciate 0
      07-12-2019, 03:43 PM   #5
Solid67
Lieutenant
United_States
187
Rep
458
Posts

Drives: 2019 M240i xDrive MP Edition
Join Date: Mar 2019
Location: Fairfax, VA

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mkswoosh View Post
I'm assuming it's better to have a little more than less ethanol when trying to reach that e30 calculation?
Yes from some additional research it would be better to be over (E31-E33) then under (E29 or less).
Appreciate 0
      07-12-2019, 03:44 PM   #6
Solid67
Lieutenant
United_States
187
Rep
458
Posts

Drives: 2019 M240i xDrive MP Edition
Join Date: Mar 2019
Location: Fairfax, VA

iTrader: (0)

Fellas I am going to try the stg 1 e30 ots map tonight with stock spark plugs and only other mod is the xHP stage 2 transmission flash. My only question is how do I go back to 93. Do I just run the tank until empty then fill up with 93 and flash back?
Appreciate 0
      07-12-2019, 04:55 PM   #7
Mkswoosh
First Lieutenant
Mkswoosh's Avatar
93
Rep
381
Posts

Drives: 2018 340xi tanzanite blue
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: Portland

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
Quote:
Originally Posted by Solid67 View Post
Yes from some additional research it would be better to be over (E31-E33) then under (E29 or less).
Appreciate that! I think I've read somewhere on stock fuel pumps bmw recommends no more the e20. Is that true? I figured if I'm not consistently running e30 100% of the time. Probably twice a month 5 gallon mixtures each time itll be okay.
Appreciate 0
      07-12-2019, 06:43 PM   #8
Pablo M
New Member
0
Rep
18
Posts

Drives: White
Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: Pr

iTrader: (0)

I have m240 in my dash board read 20miles for empty i add 3.5 gallon e85 and the rest 93. 🚀
Appreciate 0
      07-12-2019, 06:44 PM   #9
Solid67
Lieutenant
United_States
187
Rep
458
Posts

Drives: 2019 M240i xDrive MP Edition
Join Date: Mar 2019
Location: Fairfax, VA

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pablo M View Post
I have m240 in my dash board read 20miles for empty i add 3.5 gallon e85 and the rest 93. 🚀
Are you having any issues? When i tried the e85 calculator it showed it needed about 4-4.5 gallon of e85 then the rest 93.
Appreciate 0
      07-12-2019, 06:48 PM   #10
Pablo M
New Member
0
Rep
18
Posts

Drives: White
Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: Pr

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Solid67 View Post
Are you having any issues? When i tried the e85 calculator it showed it needed about 4-4.5 gallon of e85 then the rest 93.
Any issue i run 12.00 sec 117 mph
Appreciate 0
      07-12-2019, 06:52 PM   #11
Pablo M
New Member
0
Rep
18
Posts

Drives: White
Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: Pr

iTrader: (0)

Myabe not run exact e30 but the feeling its a bullet
Appreciate 0
      07-12-2019, 06:55 PM   #12
Pablo M
New Member
0
Rep
18
Posts

Drives: White
Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: Pr

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pablo M View Post
Any issue i run 12.00 sec 117 mph
And race track distance is 25 miles not flat street and have mountain to arrive to tace track any issue
Appreciate 0
      07-13-2019, 01:15 AM   #13
Mkswoosh
First Lieutenant
Mkswoosh's Avatar
93
Rep
381
Posts

Drives: 2018 340xi tanzanite blue
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: Portland

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
E30 really make a huge difference to it being compared to rocket? Damn. I'm excited to try it out now
Appreciate 0
      07-13-2019, 04:09 AM   #14
Solid67
Lieutenant
United_States
187
Rep
458
Posts

Drives: 2019 M240i xDrive MP Edition
Join Date: Mar 2019
Location: Fairfax, VA

iTrader: (0)

Fellas ran stg 1 e30 ots 2.0 and holy shit did the car become a rocket. Had my two cousins with me in the car and I didnt expect it to pull as hard as it did. Crazy story but I got pulled over for doing 78 in a 55, but earlier i was doing 100 then did a pull up to 140, so got really lucky he clocked me at 78. The cop was real cool and let me off the hook (literally handed me my license, insurance card, and registration) and told me to slow it down.

My damn Dragy was dead, but I was able to get one datalog for the night.

Model: B58
Stage: 1 OTS
Version: 2.0
Octane Map: e30
Brand-Octane Fuel Used: Mobil e85 + Mobil 93
Link: http://www.bootmod3.net/log?id=5d296b08ae729b026c8774ab
Observations: No throttle closure - fast as shit
Mods: BM3, xHP Stage 2 Transmission Flash - everything else stock

Car felt freaking awesome, like a rocket. Can't wait to go e30 stg 2. I don't think I will be going back to 93 now that I'm on the corn train!!!
Appreciate 0
      07-13-2019, 08:11 AM   #15
RF30A
Enlisted Member
5
Rep
31
Posts

Drives: 2018 x3 m40i and 2018 340i
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Jacksonville

iTrader: (1)

I usually let the car get down to about a quarter tank and then I know I can put 11 total gallons in (340i). So, I may not have a completely full tank when filling but I know my ratio is correct.

I also use the calculator posted above.
Appreciate 0
      07-14-2019, 12:03 AM   #16
Solid67
Lieutenant
United_States
187
Rep
458
Posts

Drives: 2019 M240i xDrive MP Edition
Join Date: Mar 2019
Location: Fairfax, VA

iTrader: (0)

Fellas got some performance metrics for stg 1 e30 ots.
Attached Images
   
Appreciate 1
      07-22-2019, 12:46 PM   #17
msk340i
Major
1320
Rep
1,134
Posts

Drives: 340i M sport
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: Orlando, FL

iTrader: (1)

Do I have to gap the spark plugs to run e30?
Appreciate 1
kern4174445.00
      08-06-2019, 07:20 PM   #18
4DOOR_E90
Private First Class
United_States
97
Rep
159
Posts

Drives: M3
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: NY

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by SoCalCarGuy View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by SoCalCarGuy View Post
Can you run without the gapping without any misfires ?
Appreciate 0
      08-07-2019, 10:15 AM   #19
pauli18c
Lieutenant
pauli18c's Avatar
United_States
211
Rep
519
Posts

Drives: 2017 340i RWD M Sport
Join Date: Jun 2019
Location: Chicago

iTrader: (4)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mkswoosh View Post
Appreciate that! I think I've read somewhere on stock fuel pumps bmw recommends no more the e20. Is that true?
Are you guys running E30 OTS stg1 on stock fuel pumps?
__________________
2017 340i M Sport Alpine White / Coral
Dorch Stg2, CTS catless, xHP, Custom E50 Tuned by Shoup
Appreciate 0
      08-07-2019, 11:30 AM   #20
Solid67
Lieutenant
United_States
187
Rep
458
Posts

Drives: 2019 M240i xDrive MP Edition
Join Date: Mar 2019
Location: Fairfax, VA

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by F36_GC View Post
Can you run without the gapping without any misfires ?
Yes, you can. I was running stock plugs on Stg 1 and 2 E30 OTS with all supporting mods and really didnt have any issues. I upgraded my spark plugs anyway to NGK 94201 and had them gapped to .022 because I will be running a meth or port injection kit sometime soon. I have ordered a JB4 and will use it along with BM3 (BEF).


Quote:
Originally Posted by pauli18c View Post
Are you guys running E30 OTS stg1 on stock fuel pumps?
I've run Stg 1 and Stg 2 on the stock fuel pump with no issues. You will only start having issues I believe once you go above E40 and then again its all based on your tune and goals. I believe you can run straight E85 but you would have to limit boost/load a lot or you will crash the HPFP, so really not worth it.
Appreciate 0
Post Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:38 PM.




f30post
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST