[MWA]

Originally Posted by NoShirtsNoShoes

I just think it should work as it is delivered. To have to rectify problems on a car at this price isn't right. Spending £650 to fix the springs because BMW couldn't do it right? Then each time I buy insurance I have to tell them its modded, just seems a PITA. Plus, I've already paid £500 for adaptive suspension to help the problem! That's my view on it.

Spot on mate! I think if you go ahead with the 35d the suspension issue will haunt you psychological even if in reality it didn't exist to a high extent and in no time you would be looking at change, similar to what #Nas did..

Good luck in whatever you decide

[alarustic]

Originally Posted by Tengocity

Yes indeed, but it doesn't.

So given you've just spent £40k on a car are you really going to worry about £600 when it makes so much difference?

I agree, when you put it like that.

[TheLiverBird]

Can you still change the suspension and keep the adaptive - and if so how, if at all, will it affect the settings?

[Tengocity]

Originally Posted by TheLiverBird

Can you still change the suspension and keep the adaptive - and if so how, if at all, will it affect the settings?

Yes, you can change the springs and retain the adaptive damping element.

[TheLiverBird]

Originally Posted by Tengocity

Yes, you can change the springs and retain the adaptive damping element.

Cheers, might look into that myself then when my car eventually arrives!

[Cootie]

Originally Posted by TheLiverBird

Cheers, might look into that myself then when my car eventually arrives!

I think most of us who have the ACS springs also have the adaptive dampers. Work very well as a pairing and truly transforms the car - even my wife agrees...

[JonD]

Originally Posted by MWA

Spot on mate! I think if you go ahead with the 35d the suspension issue will haunt you psychological even if in reality it didn't exist to a high extent and in no time you would be looking at change, similar to what #Nas did..

Good luck in whatever you decide

I agree, although to to be fair, I bet 99% of xdrive owners are perfectly happy with the standard suspension, we who seek better performance from it are in the minority, they can't and never will satisfy everybody.

[DaveA]

Originally Posted by M Car Chris

Does BMW actually still use the Ult Driv Machinestrap line anymore?

I think they do, yes... It's still on the top right of every page on the UK website, anyway...

The "Joy" campaign was about 5 or 6 years ago now, maybe 7... I'm trying to think of any other campaigns I have seen in the interim....

[....,,,,..,,..]

Originally Posted by NoShirtsNoShoes

I just think it should work as it is delivered. To have to rectify problems on a car at this price isn't right. Spending £650 to fix the springs because BMW couldn't do it right? Then each time I buy insurance I have to tell them its modded, just seems a PITA. Plus, I've already paid £500 for adaptive suspension to help the problem! That's my view on it.

It is my own fault, as I said above, for not getting a test drive. Also, for reading this forum, as otherwise I'd be oblivious to suspension issues (see other thread about dangers of forum use)! I would have assumed it had full M-sport suspension.

If the 335d was available with RWD with the proper M-Sport suspension that would be my model of choice.

Personally I would stick with the 3 series, unless the 6 totally covers all your needs and does not mean you are limited in its full use - been there with having 2 seaters etc.

Also from your post you have Never driven a 335d?
Have you driven any Xdrive car?

If not you are falling in to the slagging something off before you get it thing.
It may be that the car actually feels ok to you, or suitable, it may be too soft a ride etc - however unless you drive an Xdrive 6 pot you won't really know.

Prejudging going off a small number of users.

(Note, not saying anyone is wrong, I happen to agree lol).


Also 650 is on scheme of things not much cash.

Not when you consider you will want the power upgrade as well after a few months on here and of course, winter wheels, Msport spoilers and kit etc

The main bit is will the 640d cover all basis and how long do you plan on keeping your car?

[nordberg]

OP I presume you're talking about the Coupe rather than the GC??

[Lorcan]

Originally Posted by Nick the Greek

The 640d is the only diesel car I would buy.
In a dark metallic, with 20s, it looks stunning.

On 21s with some springs it looks even better, and is still very comfortable (as long as you use proper tyres).

[jumperjohn]

Originally Posted by Lorcan

On 21s with some springs it looks even better, and is still very comfortable (as long as you use proper tyres).

Goodness, that looks so lovely!

[MWA]

@Lorcan My god those wheels are so gorgeous! They proper suit the car

[Lorcan]

Originally Posted by MWA

@Lorcan My god those wheels are so gorgeous! They proper suit the car

We've just done this same conversion on a 6 series car from the west coast of Ireland. It was a 640d GC (M Sport) and he went for the 21" forged wheels, springs, performance upgrade, exhaust, carbon rear diffuser and the carbon front spoiler shown in this photo (not the chrome grille). He was blown away by the performance and handling, but above all the ride quality, even on crappy Irish roads. And it looked stunning.

[335dJa]

Originally Posted by JonD

I agree, although to to be fair, I bet 99% of xdrive owners are perfectly happy with the standard suspension, we who seek better performance from it are in the minority, they can't and never will satisfy everybody.

Spot on, I have absolutely no issues with my adaptive 335d's suspension and I don't hang about.

[brommy]

Originally Posted by 335dJa

Spot on, I have absolutely no issues with my adaptive 335d's suspension and I don't hang about.

+1

[Andykf31]

My ex-brother in law swapped from a 640d to a 335d and never looked back.
took a huge hit with the depreciation on the GC, it was savage, TBH he was so relieved to get rid in the end. even a six month one will depreciate bloody quickly - but then again so will the 335d hmmm

[alarustic]

OK, thanks for the discussion everyone. It has certainly helped.

Two very different cars.

3 vs 6
Saloon vs Coupe
4 door vs 2 door
x-drive vs RWD
Very common vs pretty rare (I mean 3's in general, not the 335d as I've never seen one!)

Had a discussion with my wife. Had to deal with a few difficult questions about my car habits such as Why do you always want more? Why are you never happy with what you've got? And so on.

With us having kids we (she) decided that the 6 would be impractical. I could get two cars but don't think I can justify it. Having a second car just so I can drive the 6 myself would be ridiculous. I don't fancy the 6GC, just looks too big. I do actually prefer saloon cars (real ones, not GCs), its just having a 6 for a couple of days last year has screwed with my head as I loved it. Made me feel very special indeed, but its just not practical. That's hard to accept, that's family life I suppose.

So the 335d it is! Was great to read a couple of positive comments about it above. I will go into it expecting to love the car. I'm really looking forward to the extra gadgets over the 330d I've got at the moment: ACC, HUD, Xenons, Adaptive headlights, etc. If the suspension is an issue, I'll deal with it at the time. Now I just have to wait 4 more weeks to collect.

Couple of added bonuses choosing this option: not having to cancel my order for the 335d. Wouldn't have enjoyed that. As a result, don't lose my deposit. I get a car on a '15 plate with 3 year warranty rather than a '14 plate with 2 year warranty (chances of me keeping either that long? Nil!) Finally, I have an agreed trade in for my current car which makes life more straightforward as with the 6 I'd have had to sell it privately.

[JustChris]

No love for the 5 series, superb car!?

[MRPoisson]

No brainer for me, 640d all day long.......

[Tengocity]

Originally Posted by NoShirtsNoShoes

OK, thanks for the discussion everyone. It has certainly helped.

Two very different cars.

3 vs 6
Saloon vs Coupe
4 door vs 2 door
x-drive vs RWD
Very common vs pretty rare (I mean 3's in general, not the 335d as I've never seen one!)

Had a discussion with my wife. Had to deal with a few difficult questions about my car habits such as Why do you always want more? Why are you never happy with what you've got? And so on.

With us having kids we (she) decided that the 6 would be impractical. I could get two cars but don't think I can justify it. Having a second car just so I can drive the 6 myself would be ridiculous. I don't fancy the 6GC, just looks too big. I do actually prefer saloon cars (real ones, not GCs), its just having a 6 for a couple of days last year has screwed with my head as I loved it. Made me feel very special indeed, but its just not practical. That's hard to accept, that's family life I suppose.

So the 335d it is! Was great to read a couple of positive comments about it above. I will go into it expecting to love the car. I'm really looking forward to the extra gadgets over the 330d I've got at the moment: ACC, HUD, Xenons, Adaptive headlights, etc. If the suspension is an issue, I'll deal with it at the time. Now I just have to wait 4 more weeks to collect.

Couple of added bonuses choosing this option: not having to cancel my order for the 335d. Wouldn't have enjoyed that. As a result, don't lose my deposit. I get a car on a '15 plate with 3 year warranty rather than a '14 plate with 2 year warranty (chances of me keeping either that long? Nil!) Finally, I have an agreed trade in for my current car which makes life more straightforward as with the 6 I'd have had to sell it privately.

Sensible wife you have! Good decision though really, even if you're thinking "life stinks, I'm going to have to drive a measly 335d!"

[Ss66]

Just changed up from my 2014 330d msport to the 335d on order for next month, more than happy with my decision after test driving the 335d