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      02-20-2020, 03:20 PM   #1
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Best Mods for track day

Hey everyone, I'm curious about tracking my F30 335i for the first time and was wondering what would be the best mods for it. I'm already FBO and have KW coilovers with SS brake lines and EBC pads. Is there anything else I should look into? Thanks for the help
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Which EBC pads, what brake fluid, and what tires do you have?
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Which EBC pads, what brake fluid, and what tires do you have?
RedStuff Pads, Motul RBF 600, and Hankook Ventus V12
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RedStuff Pads, Motul RBF 600, and Hankook Ventus V12
You'll definitely want different brake pads for the track. EBC reds are fine for spirited street/canyon driving, but won't hold up to repeated threshold braking at the track. I found what their limit was when bedding my street set, and that strongly convinced me they aren't to be used on the track.

The next "mod" I'd do is dial in your suspension damper settings so that the ride is smooth but controlled. That means not going too stiff, where you're actually decreasing your tires' grip.
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You'll definitely want different brake pads for the track. EBC reds are fine for spirited street/canyon driving, but won't hold up to repeated threshold braking at the track. I found what their limit was when bedding my street set, and that strongly convinced me they aren't to be used on the track.

The next "mod" I'd do is dial in your suspension damper settings so that the ride is smooth but controlled. That means not going too stiff, where you're actually decreasing your tires' grip.
Sounds great thank you
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Are you going as part of a school like the BMW CCA or Bondurant? Or is it just an open track day?

If the former, just make sure your tire pressure is to spec and maintenance is up to date.
You WILL find your car will do more than your skillset allows.

If the latter... see if you can get a more senior driver (like an A-class person) to ride along with you and give you seat feedback.

I've personally found that just exploring a track can be fun, but you hit a threshhold pretty fast in the day. But with an instructor, your skill level improves dramatically.
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Are you going as part of a school like the BMW CCA or Bondurant? Or is it just an open track day?

If the former, just make sure your tire pressure is to spec and maintenance is up to date.
You WILL find your car will do more than your skillset allows.

If the latter... see if you can get a more senior driver (like an A-class person) to ride along with you and give you seat feedback.

I've personally found that just exploring a track can be fun, but you hit a threshhold pretty fast in the day. But with an instructor, your skill level improves dramatically.
It would be just an open track day. thanks for the advice
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Are you going as part of a school like the BMW CCA or Bondurant? Or is it just an open track day?

If the former, just make sure your tire pressure is to spec and maintenance is up to date.
You WILL find your car will do more than your skillset allows.

If the latter... see if you can get a more senior driver (like an A-class person) to ride along with you and give you seat feedback.

I've personally found that just exploring a track can be fun, but you hit a threshhold pretty fast in the day. But with an instructor, your skill level improves dramatically.
It would be just an open track day. thanks for the advice
What tires are you on? All those mods don't mean much if you don't have traction.
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What tires are you on? All those mods don't mean much if you don't have traction.
Currently, I'm on Hankook Ventus v12 evo2s
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Currently, I'm on Hankook Ventus v12 evo2s
I would definitely look into upgrading your tires. Those Hankook's are decent for the price, but you're not getting all the power to the ground you could be.

If you don't want to get dedicated track tires, in the least, get better street tires like MPS4S. RE71R's are currently the hot tire for track use and occasional street use. They wear faster but perform just as well as NT01's but are still good in the wet. I'm currently on MPS4S but I am looking to get RE71R's on my M3 CS for track use.

On the flip side, if this is just an open track day and your first time, just use what you got! The Hankooks will do just fine and the most important thing is to work on you as a driver before you start thinking of dumping money on mods. Tires would be my NEXT move however if you continue to attend track days.
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I would definitely look into upgrading your tires. Those Hankook's are decent for the price, but you're not getting all the power to the ground you could be.

If you don't want to get dedicated track tires, in the least, get better street tires like MPS4S. RE71R's are currently the hot tire for track use and occasional street use. They wear faster but perform just as well as NT01's but are still good in the wet. I'm currently on MPS4S but I am looking to get RE71R's on my M3 CS for track use.

On the flip side, if this is just an open track day and your first time, just use what you got! The Hankooks will do just fine and the most important thing is to work on you as a driver before you start thinking of dumping money on mods. Tires would be my NEXT move however if you continue to attend track days.
Sweet! thanks for the help
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stock is 100% fine for a track day, you will have a blast just enjoy it.
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For the first couple of track days you won't be pushing that hard so stock is a good place to start.

As Farkle mentioned, once you start getting faster the RedStuff will not keep up. Once they overheat they wear extremely fast and can totally screw your rotors. My car is several hundred pounds lighter than yours and that was my experience. I lost about half the material on one track day.
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As Farkle mentioned, once you start getting faster the RedStuff will not keep up. Once they overheat they wear extremely fast and can totally screw your rotors. My car is several hundred pounds lighter than yours and that was my experience. I lost about half the material on one track day.
My experience when I overheated the pads was even scarier, the car wouldn't stop!
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I have been happy with stoptech sport pads. A lot depends on the track you are driving on how far you need to take braking mods.
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