Andream MMI Box - Wireless CarPlay & Android Auto

RAAF12 · 05-10-2021, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by jamesportan

There is a lot going on in the thread, but I just got a new unit showing higher software versions than the first post,
is it possible to rip the software off before messing?

SDK Version: 25.0.0.7.0.0.2.0
CUST Version: v3.5.0.1.gpe.b2
MCU Version: 20.10.22.16
HW Version: BMW_NBT2

Not an easy task, you have to open the box and find the pins of the flash memory. Sometimes you must desolder the IC en put in on a box to read and store the internal software. Then you have a firmware dump.
But with the latest software you can flash an older one too. That's easy!

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Originally Posted by RAAF12 View Post
But it's not blocking GEMINI_PACK.bin so reverse flashing isn't prohibited, it's just a warning. I check it with an older update and booting.
And at least flashes the latest update again B2 V1.5.0 with no problem.

muniz_ri · 05-10-2021, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by jamesportan

There is a lot going on in the thread, but I just got a new unit showing higher software versions than the first post,
is it possible to rip the software off before messing?

SDK Version: 25.0.0.7.0.0.2.0
CUST Version: v3.5.0.1.gpe.b2
MCU Version: 20.10.22.16
HW Version: BMW_NBT2

That seems to be a new EVO hardware version.

Is the software update menu in settings requiring an ISPBOOOT.BIN or GEMINI_PACK.BIN?

jamesportan · 05-10-2021, 11:26 AM

OK, I was more asking if anyone actually knew for these units specifically.
In general yes you could wire up or use the flash chip in a programmer.

I don't really want to downgrade and then find nobody has my current software version for me to roll back to.

I googled and a few pictures look like there are possibly serial port pins from the CPU, might be possible to connect over those..

e38740imd · 05-10-2021, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by RAAF12

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Originally Posted by e38740imd

I am 100 glad i found this Thread.

Im looking to update m

The mmi unit i have is from ebay.

There seems to be quite a few updates to choose from

I have a 2016 640i that Currently has the NBT IDrive.

What info is required of me so i know which update to choose.

Cheers Guys!

Maybe a sticker on the carton box tells what version you have NBT A,B or B2, it looks like this
NBT01A
EW-BMCP-NBT02B
EW-BMCP-NBT04X

Otherwise take a picture of the screen what tells the current software you have. Do you have issues witch the box you like to repair?

[img]https://i.postimg.cc/TK2ZZTR1/20210510-124745.jpg[/img]

[img]https://i.postimg.cc/2bB6h4Js/20210510-124814.jpg[/img]

[img]https://i.postimg.cc/PPHxvvM7/20210510-124759.jpg[/img]

and android auto is glitchy hooked via usb. wireless android auto doesnt work. worked for 3 secs once

i have a Samsung S21 running Android 11

autolinkworks for about 1-2mins and boots me back to the main menu. same for android auto.

i just want this to work lol

software version in the images. it also has a password to update and i dont know the password

muniz_ri · 05-10-2021, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by e38740imd

[img]https://i.postimg.cc/TK2ZZTR1/20210510-124745.jpg[/img]

[img]https://i.postimg.cc/2bB6h4Js/20210510-124814.jpg[/img]

[img]https://i.postimg.cc/PPHxvvM7/20210510-124759.jpg[/img]

and android auto is glitchy hooked via usb. wireless android auto doesnt work. worked for 3 secs once

i have a Samsung S21 running Android 11

autolinkworks for about 1-2mins and boots me back to the main menu. same for android auto.

i just want this to work lol

software version in the images. it also has a password to update and i dont know the password

That's a Carlinkit vB2. The latest software update is on page 1 post#3, 9.2.20.yl.b2

e38740imd · 05-10-2021, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by muniz_ri

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Originally Posted by e38740imd

[img]https://i.postimg.cc/TK2ZZTR1/20210510-124745.jpg[/img]

[img]https://i.postimg.cc/2bB6h4Js/20210510-124814.jpg[/img]

[img]https://i.postimg.cc/PPHxvvM7/20210510-124759.jpg[/img]

and android auto is glitchy hooked via usb. wireless android auto doesnt work. worked for 3 secs once

i have a Samsung S21 running Android 11

autolinkworks for about 1-2mins and boots me back to the main menu. same for android auto.

i just want this to work lol

software version in the images. it also has a password to update and i dont know the password

That's a Carlinkit vB2. The latest software update is on page 1 post#3, 9.2.20.yl.b2

Thanks for your Help

what is the password to be able to upload the update?

muniz_ri · 05-10-2021, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by e38740imd

Thanks for your Help

what is the password to be able to upload the update?

Try 4091.

e38740imd · 05-10-2021, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by muniz_ri

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Originally Posted by e38740imd

Thanks for your Help

what is the password to be able to upload the update?

Try 4091.

oh shit. it says it next to the Download file. ill give it a shot and report back my findings

e38740imd · 05-10-2021, 04:37 PM

any way to get wireless AA to work?

unit seems to be working as far as wired android auto goes. but will not boot up wirelessly. only when i hook the phone in via USB.

in the AA menu it says my unit supports wireless aa.

beside that it im starting to like it better now.

i just need to uninstall the unit to see my dipswitches are working to use the factory mic/ bt for phone calls and have the rear camera come up when in reverse.

big thanks to the help!

i was about to junk this thing

muniz_ri · 05-10-2021, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by e38740imd

any way to get wireless AA to work?

unit seems to be working as far as wired android auto goes. but will not boot up wirelessly. only when i hook the phone in via USB.

in the AA menu it says my unit supports wireless aa.

beside that it im starting to like it better now.

i just need to uninstall the unit to see my dipswitches are working to use the factory mic/ bt for phone calls and have the rear camera come up when in reverse.

big thanks to the help!

i was about to junk this thing

Go into "CarPlay" in settings then "pair device." Once the mmi locates and lists your phone you should get a bluetooth connection confirmation on your phone. After a few seconds wireless AA should launch automatically.

Ashhong · 05-10-2021, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by RAAF12

Can't find anything about the smart link system. The loose stripped coax wire looks like a cheap Wifi antenna. Maybe de seller has more info about this MMI box?

Is this supposed to be universal? Because the Carlinkit instructions I have show ON for 8 if you have OEM mic

RAAF12 · 05-10-2021, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Ashhong

Is this supposed to be universal? Because the Carlinkit instructions I have show ON for 8 if you have OEM mic

I depends on the version generation, it's BMW HU system from older to newer cars. Headline in general is CCC/CIC/NBT/EVO
Latest version has more options, better screens and slickest software. Around 2019 they sell things like Android Auto and touchscreens in their cars. Not interesting for the Andream guys here

Weslsew · 05-10-2021, 07:53 PM

Is there a trick to getting the quadlock connector to fit behind the nbt unit? I’ve been wiggling and trying everything but can’t get the unit to slide all the way back in

RAAF12 · 05-10-2021, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Weslsew

Is there a trick to getting the quadlock connector to fit behind the nbt unit? I’ve been wiggling and trying everything but can’t get the unit to slide all the way back in

Try to get the cable underneath the box en then sliding it to it's place.

Ashhong · 05-10-2021, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by RAAF12

I depends on the version generation, it's BMW HU system from older to newer cars. Headline in general is CIC/NBT/EVO
Latest version has more options, better screens and slickest software. Around 2019 they sell things like Android Auto and touchscreens in their cars. Not interesting for the Andream guys here

Oh I was just referring to the pins on the back of the MMI. Ah but now I see your picture was for EVO

Mikegfx4 · 05-10-2021, 11:07 PM

What is the recommended unit to buy right now for a 2014 F15 x5 50i? I would like to buy it of Amazon but I see there are a bunch of different models.

javaperson · 05-11-2021, 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Weslsew

Is there a trick to getting the quadlock connector to fit behind the nbt unit? I’ve been wiggling and trying everything but can’t get the unit to slide all the way back in

I just did the install myself tonight, and this step took the longest (at least it felt that way!). I found the way to get the qualock into place was to move all the existing cables on the back of the unit out of the way so there is a clear/smooth way in for the quadlock, make sure the quadlock connector lock is down so that it can engage the guides, and then try shifting a little (it is tight) while pushing in. I probably tried 25times, and after 10min, got it in. GL!

Melir · 05-11-2021, 01:45 AM

I have a question to all of you who installed aftermarket camera with your MMI box, did you notice that it shows you more space than it's actually. I mean the guide lines shows there is enough space to park your car but it's not true and you can crash the car if you don't check side mirrors. It's a bit annoying as you can't trust these lines at all. Is there some kind of solution, maybe to make the guide lines wider

ibi100 · 05-11-2021, 06:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jamesportan

There is a lot going on in the thread, but I just got a new unit showing higher software versions than the first post,
is it possible to rip the software off before messing?

SDK Version: 25.0.0.7.0.0.2.0
CUST Version: v3.5.0.1.gpe.b2
MCU Version: 20.10.22.16
HW Version: BMW_NBT2

Hi I have exactly the same box as you and the same versions, I tried to update it, but no update works, it asks for a GEMINI_PACK.BIN, if you have any news to share with us ...
password : 2863 OK

scoobdawg · 05-11-2021, 08:18 AM

Finally got my unit installed and PARTIALLY working - This was the latest CIC version purchased from AIOCOAI (formerly Andream) on Ali -

SDK :25.0.00.7.0.0.2.0
Cust : CHL_V1.5.0
MCU Version: 20.12.1.18
HW Version: BMW_CICHL

Carplay apps are showing up, audio is playing etc

I want to use my OEM microphone - Currently, when I hit my steering wheel button, Siri comes up but the Mic is dead - Two questions - Did I still need to run the MIC cable from the A Pillar? If so I have to some rework to do (I have the microhopne and the MIC cable still sitting in a box)... Next - Is there any setting to enable the OEM MIC? I didn't see anything..

In the MMI Settings Menu I see a setting "Using Car's BT Phone" which is currently set to off - What is this? Should it be set on?

Lastly is it worth upgrading the software/is it even posible

Thanks for the Help.. so Close.... And really appreciate everyone's help

sbrook02 · 05-11-2021, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by scoobdawg

Finally got my unit installed and PARTIALLY working - This was the latest CIC version purchased from AIOCOAI (formerly Andream) on Ali -

SDK :25.0.00.7.0.0.2.0
Cust : CHL_V1.5.0
MCU Version: 20.12.1.18
HW Version: BMW_CICHL

Carplay apps are showing up, audio is playing etc

I want to use my OEM microphone - Currently, when I hit my steering wheel button, Siri comes up but the Mic is dead - Two questions - Did I still need to run the MIC cable from the A Pillar? If so I have to some rework to do (I have the microhopne and the MIC cable still sitting in a box)... Next - Is there any setting to enable the OEM MIC? I didn't see anything..

In the MMI Settings Menu I see a setting "Using Car's BT Phone" which is currently set to off - What is this? Should it be set on?

Lastly is it worth upgrading the software/is it even posible

Thanks for the Help.. so Close.... And really appreciate everyone's help

You need to turn "Use Car's BT phone" on if you pair your phone with OEM Bluetooth.

RAAF12 · 05-11-2021, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Mikegfx4

What is the recommended unit to buy right now for a 2014 F15 x5 50i? I would like to buy it of Amazon but I see there are a bunch of different models.

Your car has a BMW NBT headunit so you'll need something like this

https://nl.aliexpress.com/item/40003...000559718603.0

or Amazon https://www.amazon.com/Carlinkit-Wir...2QJ3JR4HSWQDFG

Don't know links will work from outside my part of the globe.

Cheapest is direct sale from a China webstore. In the EU they have their own warehouses with fast free shipping and no custom fees. Don't know if this excist outside the EU.

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jamesportan Registered 0 Rep 3 Posts Drives: BMW F82 M4 comp Join Date: Feb 2019 Location: UK iTrader: (0)	OK, I was more asking if anyone actually knew for these units specifically. In general yes you could wire up or use the flash chip in a programmer. I don't really want to downgrade and then find nobody has my current software version for me to roll back to. I googled and a few pictures look like there are possibly serial port pins from the CPU, might be possible to connect over those..
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e38740imd Second Lieutenant 65 Rep 287 Posts Drives: 2016 640i Join Date: Oct 2019 Location: Maryland iTrader: (0)	any way to get wireless AA to work? unit seems to be working as far as wired android auto goes. but will not boot up wirelessly. only when i hook the phone in via USB. in the AA menu it says my unit supports wireless aa. beside that it im starting to like it better now. i just need to uninstall the unit to see my dipswitches are working to use the factory mic/ bt for phone calls and have the rear camera come up when in reverse. big thanks to the help! i was about to junk this thing
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Weslsew Enlisted Member 3 Rep 49 Posts Drives: F25 X3 35i Join Date: Jun 2019 Location: FL iTrader: (0)	Is there a trick to getting the quadlock connector to fit behind the nbt unit? I’ve been wiggling and trying everything but can’t get the unit to slide all the way back in
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Mikegfx4 Private 37 Rep 60 Posts Drives: 2008 BMW 328i Coupe Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Wisconsin iTrader: (0)	What is the recommended unit to buy right now for a 2014 F15 x5 50i? I would like to buy it of Amazon but I see there are a bunch of different models.
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Melir New Member 0 Rep 17 Posts Drives: F30 320d Join Date: Mar 2021 Location: Bulgaria iTrader: (0)	I have a question to all of you who installed aftermarket camera with your MMI box, did you notice that it shows you more space than it's actually. I mean the guide lines shows there is enough space to park your car but it's not true and you can crash the car if you don't check side mirrors. It's a bit annoying as you can't trust these lines at all. Is there some kind of solution, maybe to make the guide lines wider Last edited by Melir; 05-11-2021 at 02:01 AM..
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scoobdawg Private 10 Rep 60 Posts Drives: f10 Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: NH iTrader: (0)	Finally got my unit installed and PARTIALLY working - This was the latest CIC version purchased from AIOCOAI (formerly Andream) on Ali - SDK :25.0.00.7.0.0.2.0 Cust : CHL_V1.5.0 MCU Version: 20.12.1.18 HW Version: BMW_CICHL Carplay apps are showing up, audio is playing etc I want to use my OEM microphone - Currently, when I hit my steering wheel button, Siri comes up but the Mic is dead - Two questions - Did I still need to run the MIC cable from the A Pillar? If so I have to some rework to do (I have the microhopne and the MIC cable still sitting in a box)... Next - Is there any setting to enable the OEM MIC? I didn't see anything.. In the MMI Settings Menu I see a setting "Using Car's BT Phone" which is currently set to off - What is this? Should it be set on? Lastly is it worth upgrading the software/is it even posible Thanks for the Help.. so Close.... And really appreciate everyone's help
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