12-28-2016, 11:29 PM | #67 |
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Excellent point. Even in perfect weather stopping distance shouldn't exceed sight distance. At least for me, that generally means staying within the limit on local and country roads - not so much on interstates. Bad luck to say this, but no accident, at fault or not at fault, in 50 years though a few close calls.
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12-29-2016, 12:11 PM | #68 | |
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Remember, this is the 'default state' at low speeds. As I said above, there are many inputs to the system that can change the transfer case lock-up, including the throttle pedal. I bet that if you are on the throttle hard, it locks up the center diff before wheel-spin occurs, for exactly the reason you mention, but most of the time you aren't really accelerating hard. I can't make a full list of what things cause the car to send power to the front wheels before wheelspin occurs, but it probably covers most if not all of the special cases you can mention, such as accelerating hard and wanting the most traction. Being in sport mode might also impact it, but I have no information to suggest/confirm that... Beyond what has been announced, those kinds of details are very hard to get. Like I said though, the technical discussion of how it works is not meant to make it sound worse/unacceptable, it's just for geeks like me who want to understand how it works. The performance is what matters on the road, and I'm very happy with the performance. |
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12-29-2016, 08:32 PM | #69 |
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I know all about "binding" and the lack of a center differential. I learned to drive in a '43 Jeep (actually Ford built). If you weren't careful you'd get your arms yanked out of their shoulder sockets... You ain't lived until you've driven a 4WD vehicle without power steering.
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You ain't lived until you've driven a WWII vintage M37 4x4, the version which doesn't have brakes. To stop you downshift to first gear, which slows the truck to maybe 3 MPH, then take it out of gear and engage the hand activated driveshaft lock, a 3 inch wide leather strap that wraps around the driveshaft.
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12-30-2016, 12:31 AM | #71 |
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I love the fact that in the winter when I press the accelerator at a stoplight, I actually go and can drive across the intersection.
It's the little things.
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12-30-2016, 11:52 AM | #72 |
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I find my RWD F10 to be a ton of fun and actually rather functional in snow with winter tires. I have yokohama 225 Ice Guards setup of my stockie rims and its quite a blast. you gotta do lots of countersteering but its manageable through all but the deepest of snow going up an incline. once you're already at speed, this thing is more stable then AWD pickup trucks who were doing the same speed as me on the highway. Xdrive helps off the line, but you dont need it for anything else.
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12-31-2016, 01:53 AM | #73 |
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Which is basically all driving in the city.
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What I like about xDrive is that I'm totally unaware of it with normal road conditions, and damn glad that it works as well as it does when the weather goes down the crapper. |
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12-31-2016, 12:13 PM | #76 |
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how slow do you think everyone with their front wheel drive boxes is going to be moving? you know RWD still has pretty good traction right? its alot better then FWD, I remember plowing through snow with my all seasons while those little cars would almost get stuck. and once the roads are clear and traffic dies down, the snow is usually almost gone off the roads anyways. Its really not that bad to deal with unless the snow is deep and you're starting on an incline.
as for rain, nothing beats RWD in wet conditions.. so much fun. |
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My RWD + Xice TI-3s are working out pretty good so far. Other than occasionally getting stuck on my street I haven't had as many issues as I expected going to a RWD car
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I probably would have been fine in RWD (I mean, I've been fine in FWD my whole life, never got stuck on the road, and only had to find an alternate route around a hill once, probably due to my inexperience with a manual at that point.) But I REALLY enjoyed this car in the snow, in ways that wouldn't have worked in RWD. If BMW had offered a proper sport suspension on the xDrive, this would be my perfect car.
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FWD in the snow is a blessing. Driving RWD in the snow can be a nightmare. I got stuck leaving my parents house last week for a few minutes and when I talked to my dad about it after, he asked me why I took the TC off. Plot twist - I didn't take TC off
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Then I guess you won't have to 'settle'. I made my choice, and am extremely happy with it. It's a lot easier to change out suspension components after the fact than to add a transfer case and front axles.
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I agree with you 100%. We had a legacy wagon, a legacy GT and an outback. Damn near unstoppable on snow tires, the X5 is good, but not as good, a foregone conclusion given its heavier. Even our old Mini countryman S all4 was not as good. I'll be able to compare sedan to sedan once I get my 340i
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X-Ice, xDrive, and M Performance LSD...
Winter Beast-mode!
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