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      10-16-2018, 01:21 PM   #23
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I just want to know how much ethanol we can run that already right there will help a lot.
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I am assuming those of us with 6 speed manuals have no need to be concerned about torque limitations ?

Any options to change throttle mappings for Comfort/Sport ? Is this possible with a custom tune ?

Any options to control rev matching ?
Good point .... I want the Sport throttle mapping for Comfort (or all settings) if possible too
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I just want to know how much ethanol we can run that already right there will help a lot.
Iím there with you.
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      10-16-2018, 04:58 PM   #26
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Great thread! This has me interested greatly!

I'm running MPPSK love the idea of 440bhp mark!

When do you expect final release and prices?
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Sorry i meant stage 3 with the exhaust modification.
Has the fuel system been tweaked around so you can run a more ethanol mix safely?
Preferably, we would recommend against using E85 for any application with our software for the time being. We are in uncharted waters when it comes to testing with this fuel due to our limited access to it, however we are working towards some solutions. We have found through our research and development that even with 91 octane we have proven concrete, safe and powerful results. We have calibrated our timing maps accordingly and have had no experience of knock on either 91 or 94 octane fuels.

We apologize if this presents any inconvenience for the time being however we would rather thoroughly test this application in full before bringing it to the public market.
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Couple questions:

Have you added any HW mods such as downpipe or intake to see how that performs with Stg2 or is that more of what Stg3 will be?

What have you seen is a safe level to manipulate the TCU? Also, can you adjust shift speeds as well when manipulating torque limits?

Do you have variations of Stg2 that can run a touch lower octane for us Westcoast people, for instance I have 92 octane here in WA.
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      10-16-2018, 05:46 PM   #29
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This is probably a stupid question and unrealistic, but is a burble tune offered separately or do you have to get the main tune for that to be an option? And also where could I get some pricing info?

Thanks!
Thank you for the question! As per the post, these options will only be available when purchasing any OTS maps (Any of the listed stages above) and they are a free upgrade at that!
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Congrats on offering another solid option!

So to eliminate torque intervention for driveability purposes, we have to get xHP flash tool? Is this additional cost to the tune?
For our stage 2 software, in order to achieve a smooth and uninterrupted powerband we would recommend one of the three options as listed in our post. One of the options listed can be fitted to your ECU software which will apply a patch that can circumvent torque intervention without updating the 550nm/400tq torque limiters in the 8HP transmission software. This is not the method in which we would like to do things, as it decalibrates the internal torque maps in the software, however is one that is offered if the customer would not like to purchase any additional flashing tools or modify any additional software.

So to answer your question, no, an xHP flash tool is not absolutely necessary. It is just one of the options we can offer. To be clear, we do strongly recommend the proper calibration of the transmission software.

Thank you for the congratulations

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For us in California/Arizona/Nevada only have access to 91 octane and e85. Would the Stage 2 tune be good to run on an ethanol mix? 3 gallons e85 with the rest 91 to get 93.
Please see the reply above with regards to mixing e85 for the time being. Thank you very much for your inquiry!
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a) how about a stage 1.5 for 91-93 gas (usually get 93 but some stations have only 92 or even 91)
b) this needs a release asap as doing everything on the iPhone is just so choice
c) Group Buy !?!
a) We are willing to work with everyone. If there is some fuel restriction limitation such as you are describing, the software can be modified to fit your needs. This would involve some level of customization which we are happy to offer.

b) We are very close at this point and looking forward to the release, we will definitely be keeping you all in the loop.

c) We do plan on some sort of discount allotted to a specific amount of people, but it would likely be in order of purchase, group buys are something we would consider as well after the flashing tool has been released.
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a) I am assuming those of us with 6 speed manuals have no need to be concerned about torque limitations ?

b) Any options to change throttle mappings for Comfort/Sport ? Is this possible with a custom tune ?

c) Any options to control rev matching ?
a) This assumption is correct, those of you fitted with 6 speed manuals need not worry about any torque limiters on the transmission side getting in the way of software.

b) This would definitely possible through a custom upgrade, it would take us a little while to develop this solution fully, but we are confident we could offer it to you.

c) At this moment, no, we have not considered this as a necessity. We will definitely consider this as a future project if the demand is there.

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I am assuming those of us with 6 speed manuals have no need to be concerned about torque limitations ?

Any options to change throttle mappings for Comfort/Sport ? Is this possible with a custom tune ?

Any options to control rev matching ?
How would you want rev matching to be controlled? I'm not sure there's anything to do.. it just works.
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Dang more in the market to be able to run the miracle E85 fuel. Will keep my eye on this thread to see how people like the flash once itís released.
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      10-19-2018, 11:32 AM   #36
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This is great news. I really like your solution and would love to try it once it is available.

Is your solution compatible with EU cars (and fuels) as well or limited to US spec vehicles? Can you disclose which OBD-WiFi adapters are supported by your software / solution?
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This is great news. I really like your solution and would love to try it once it is available.

Is your solution compatible with EU cars (and fuels) as well or limited to US spec vehicles? Can you disclose which OBD-WiFi adapters are supported by your software / solution?
Yes, our solution works on more than 230 calibration versions with B58 for all markets: EU6, EU5, USA, JPN, CHN, ECE and different models such as F20, F22, F30, F31, F33, F34 with fuel octane 91, 94 (R+M)/2 and 95, 98, 100 RON. I guess you are in Finland so 98 RON is available there.
We will disclose WiFi adapter information along with MG Flasher release date.
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Congrats on offering another solid option!

So to eliminate torque intervention for driveability purposes, we have to get xHP flash tool? Is this additional cost to the tune?
For our stage 2 software, in order to achieve a smooth and uninterrupted powerband we would recommend one of the three options as listed in our post. One of the options listed can be fitted to your ECU software which will apply a patch that can circumvent torque intervention without updating the 550nm/400tq torque limiters in the 8HP transmission software. This is not the method in which we would like to do things, as it decalibrates the internal torque maps in the software, however is one that is offered if the customer would not like to purchase any additional flashing tools or modify any additional software.

So to answer your question, no, an xHP flash tool is not absolutely necessary. It is just one of the options we can offer. To be clear, we do strongly recommend the proper calibration of the transmission software.

Thank you for the congratulations
Is it possible to have a 4th option?

Ie detune stage 2 to have 550nm of torque?
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What's the price?????
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      10-23-2018, 10:13 PM   #41
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Jarek@JRAuto, ability to remove vmax?
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Is it possible to have a 4th option?

Ie detune stage 2 to have 550nm of torque?
Yes, 4th option is basically ST1 - internal tq in the ecu is below transmission limiter
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Jarek@JRAuto, ability to remove vmax?
Vmax is applied to each stage just before programming as per user requirements - just mark Vmax option and fly


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Yes, 4th option is basically ST1 - internal tq in the ecu is below transmission limiter
I think it was more related to a tune that would not be over the limiter but still get max HP
So you would limit the boost to Stage 1 until 3.5k or so and afterwards increase the boost so that you keep the torque below the limit (but above Stage 1) and around 4.5 you are at stage 2
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