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      10-15-2019, 01:32 PM   #1
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New 2 Series Gran Coupe

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/n...onights-reveal

Had thought from the artists’ impressions and the test mules this was going to be quite a good looking car, but having seen the rear-end treatment ‘dumpy’ is the word that comes to mind and that’s me being kind...
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      10-15-2019, 02:10 PM   #2
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I really like the design, grilles are a million times better than the 1 series!

What I don't like is the FWD platform, god knows why it isn't on the RWD platform like the upcoming 2 coupe and convertible!
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Agree about the grille, it’s just the back half I can’t get on with. Reminds me too much of the 3GT 🤢
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      10-15-2019, 02:35 PM   #4
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I also think they’ve avoided RWD to prevent cannibalising 3 series sales. Jaguar’s FPace sales have been hammered by the EPace, for example, because they’re just too similar in their target markets.
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I also think they’ve avoided RWD to prevent cannibalising 3 series sales. Jaguar’s FPace sales have been hammered by the EPace, for example, because they’re just too similar in their target markets.
True, if I didn’t have a kid and a dog I’d definitely consider one of these, if it was 6 cylinder and rwd platform!
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I don't believe all of the autocar article, never do. If they've gone fwd you can bet there won't be a 3 litre M2 Gran Coupe as they're saying, best you can hope is an M235i with the 2.0. Looking like that, they can stick anything in it for all I care, I won't be going near it.
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With so many models in its line up, I think BMW has become a jack of all trades and master of none
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This could have been a great car especially given that its dimensions look spot at a time when all cars are getting too big to be truly fun. The new 3 is the same size as the E39 5 Series for example.

But no... it looks like some kind of Japanese saloon to me
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I walked past an e39 the other day it looked pretty compact, the new 3 is barely any bigger than the old 3er and doesn't feel big at all to me.

The SUV's look massive even the mid sized ones like X3/Q5 I will admit.
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Interesting - 2 Series GC around the same size as an E90.

Not an E36 as I previously put!
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      10-16-2019, 03:42 AM   #11
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Interesting - 2 Series GC around the same size as an E36.
Looks around same size as an E90 to me! :
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Looks around same size as an E90 to me! :
Doh, damn my typing! (corected... coreected... corrected)
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So... is it a hatch style boot or not?

Not keen on the looks.
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Not a pretty bum!
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Oh dear and seriously, back to Dakota leather, is that a type-o is it the same on the 1er?

BMW design direction, a lot of people saying they don't like it...will they really go elsewhere. Real real risk of it these days.

Also does the car buying world really need

2GC
4GC
8GC

I guess so!
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It really does look awful. Does anyone (apart from Mr BMW, Teaspoon, with his blue blood and who really doesn't count) like this thing?

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Looks like an uglified Mondeo.
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It's not offensive, it's just a bit meh.
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It's not offensive, it's just a bit meh.
No, from the back, it’s offensive....
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It's not offensive, it's just a bit meh.
No, from the back, it’s offensive....
I'm using the new outsize grilles as my ugly benchmark. No contest I'm afraid.
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I'm using the new outsize grilles as my ugly benchmark. No contest I'm afraid.
True. Can we have offensive (2GC) and really offensive (massive grilles)?
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It really does look awful. Does anyone (apart from Mr BMW, Teaspoon, with his blue blood and who really doesn't count) like this thing?
I don’t, the back looks like a dog’s dinner.
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