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      03-09-2013, 08:48 PM   #243
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@esquire: To the contrary, I see the big picture clearly as does BMW. They need to be something bigger than the little boutique car maker you probably fell in love with. You have no lock on objective reasoning. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. There are few GT style luxury cars on the market. BMW is producing one at the 3 series level. That's a smart move and a shame you don't get it and wring your hands why.

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i can careless about all the "why" comments. i love this! now from coupe to GT!
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i'm not 100% positive what the purpose of this car is but it sure does look great from this angle
I completely agree. This is the ONLY ANGLE that looks good. If you start to look at sides and rear quarter profile, it looks horrible.
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      03-10-2013, 01:34 AM   #246
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I can't believe there's ///M logos on the front fenders... do they think anything that they slap ///M on is just automatically better? They used to be classy and almost understated and now they just slap it on to increase their margins. Talk about diluting a once-hallowed brand. Extremely disappointing.
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      03-10-2013, 06:16 PM   #247
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      03-19-2013, 10:38 AM   #248
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They bring this crap to North America that doesn't sell, but they won't bring the 1er hatch? I don't get it either.
If you need the extra room, get a wagon. Looks better (IMO) and is more functional.
Amen. BMW sucks for making this (and the 5GT).
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      03-21-2013, 12:59 PM   #249
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M package looks over at autoblog.com

Just looking at Autoblog's quick video. I wish they didn't have the M package. Look at this profile shot. There is something about the profile that is smooth. I think the M package gives it too sharp an edge.

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      03-23-2013, 05:12 AM   #250
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Whether or not I drive an M car has no bearing on whether this car is objectively a good looking car. Being an M-car driver makes me no less capable of appreciating the aesthetics of the 3 series sedan, the 5 series sedan, the 6 series coupe, the z roadster - all of which are good looking purposeful machines. This car though, is not that. And more problematically, it fills no niche except those already filled by BMW's other niche products.

And sorry to break it to you, the 3 Series GT is not in the same class (performance, price, looks, clientele or otherwise) as the Panamera, or meant to be a competitor thereof. Not sure where you came up with that bit of fluff. The 6 series gran coupe is and has always been BMW's panamera competitor.

You seem to take comments pretty personally, quickly taking things to personal attack. Maybe a "big boys" car isn't for you after all. Not when your mentality is childish.

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I just can't agree with what you've said at all. I'm 33 now and have owned 6 BMWs of all body types including a couple of M cars, I loved them all but as I get older I've been looking for something that has the driving dynamics of a 3er, 5er's comfort and, SUV's practicality. Unfortunately there is nothing like that so I have to keep 2~3 cars (sedan, coupe/vert, and SUV) at the same time for different purposes and occasions. I'm so tired of all the maintenance, washes, and depreciation. Thanks to BMW for giving me a solution with the 3GT. It is not as sporty and eye catching as a yellow M3 that's for sure, but at least it looks good enough to please my own eyes. I sold my E92 not too long ago because it was too small, too loud, too high profile, and too purposeless. To me M cars can only be referred as a toy to any "big boys", not a car, a car is what gets you, your passengers, and your cargo transported comfortably, safely and stylishly to the destinations. Please respect other people's tastes and opinions, people like you are the reason that everyone thinks BMW owners are cocky. I don't think BMW would still be in business if you market for them, your vision is just too narrow and selfish.
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I've been looking for something that has the driving dynamics of a 3er, 5er's comfort and, SUV's practicality. Thanks to BMW for giving me a solution with the 3GT. It is not as sporty and eye catching as a yellow M3 that's for sure, but at least it looks good enough to please my own eyes.
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I like this car but I can understand there will be significant amount of people against it's styling. I'm good with keeping it exclusive as long as it doesn't take a beating on resale as a result. That's my biggest concern at this point.
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      03-25-2013, 11:10 AM   #253
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There's now a great alternative to the Panamera (for those who don't need to pretend they drive a race car).
The 3GT is absolutely 100% not meant as a Panamera competitor so I have no idea where that came from. Perhaps I'm bias as as owner but they aren't even remotely in the same class. I'd safely say that's what the 6 Grancoupe was meant for. However, I think the 3GT looks pretty good from the side. Interesting niche vehicle... looking forward to seeing it in flesh before I draw conclusions.
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      03-25-2013, 01:33 PM   #254
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The 3GT is absolutely 100% not meant as a Panamera competitor so I have no idea where that came from.
Categories are the tools of marketing people to manipulate buyers. If one is looking for a sporty-ish 5 door luxury car, one will find the Panamera, 5GT, 6 gran coupe, A7 and now 3GT. I said nothing of their vast differences and I only picked the Panamera because I had just finished building one.

Regardless, until the 3GT my list of 5 door luxury cars (in north america) was all north of $60K (outfitted). The 3GT changed that and that's where it came from.
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I don't recall if this was asked/answered before, but is there the slightest chance the US will get a 328d (aka ROW 320d) version? Maybe announcement closer to on-sale date? I realize its expensive to homologize a low volume car with a Diesel engine, but it sounds appealing to me. The upcoming F10 535d does as well, but that car pushes $75K territory with the good options added on. An F34 would give me the extra space I'm looking for, and the diesel aspect would make it just different enough from my current car.
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      05-22-2013, 09:37 AM   #256
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I don't recall if this was asked/answered before, but is there the slightest chance the US will get a 328d (aka ROW 320d) version? Maybe announcement closer to on-sale date? I realize its expensive to homologize a low volume car with a Diesel engine, but it sounds appealing to me. The upcoming F10 535d does as well, but that car pushes $75K territory with the good options added on. An F34 would give me the extra space I'm looking for, and the diesel aspect would make it just different enough from my current car.
Sorry Sam, I cannot answer your question, but I would like to highlight that the 320d sedan available in South Africa is really quite noisy, especially if you're not used to diesels. I think that the 320d available here is equivalent to the 328d that is coming to the US. When and if you test drive a 328d sedan / GT, you should pay particular attention to this aspect of the car.
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Sorry Sam, I cannot answer your question, but I would like to highlight that the 320d sedan available in South Africa is really quite noisy, especially if you're not used to diesels. I think that the 320d available here is equivalent to the 328d that is coming to the US. When and if you test drive a 328d sedan / GT, you should pay particular attention to this aspect of the car.
Good to know. It will be a few months before we have a diesel F3x here to test drive, but I sometimes forget about that aspect of the car. A good thing to keep in mind!
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      05-24-2013, 04:07 PM   #258
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Does anyone know when we can start ordering the GT in the US (for ED)?

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Does anyone know when we can start ordering the GT in the US (for ED)?

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Ordering and pricing guides are already out. Go talk to your dealer.
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Ordering and pricing guides are already out. Go talk to your dealer.
Will do. Surprising: my SA was supposed to call me when he would have any info. I guess selling a 3GT may not be priority.

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The dealer here in Savannah, GA said a memo was received this past Wednesday with the "calendar of events" for the 3 GT. No pricing yet, but dealers would be able to order in June for September delivery. Hopefully the GT will be also be available to order for ED at that time. I would like to get a September ED. Let us know what you find out. Thanks
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Update: Just stopped by the dealer (NJ). They have really no info apart from the fact that the F34 appears as line items (328 and 335) on the catalog, start production in July. No build sheets or pricing information. If anyone knows a dealer which has the info, please post name here.

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Here is the complete 3 series pricing and ordering guides, including the 3GT - http://www.f30post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=844157

The 3GT will only come in xdrive variants (328 and 335) for the US.
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Here is the complete 3 series pricing and ordering guides, including the 3GT - http://www.f30post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=844157

The 3GT will only come in xdrive variants (328 and 335) for the US.
I don't see any pricing or order guide for the F34 in the link you posted.
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