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Plus, the GC has a practical hatch in respect to the sedan. It just happened that this year I need to change car for family reasons, and my first option was an A5 Sportback. Now that BMW released the GC, I quickly ordered one. At least in my case, BMW managed to sell one car more! |
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BMW is afraid to lose sales and bleed existing customers to the Audi A5 sportback. That's all. This car is not an f30 variant. It's a response to Audi, and frankly it could not wait until the mid-cycle refresh. Besides, if they gave us this and called it an f30 LCI, frankly MOST people would be pissed. This car is not as sporty, has a hatchback, less headroom and (i'm guessing here), the chassis will not be as stiff and in turn will creak and bend. Probably why they are not making an M4 Gran Coupe. |
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BTW, the more I look at these cars side by side, the more I respect them both for what they are. At a first glance, sure they look similar (f30 and f36). But put them side by side for a minute and I think the design differences become increasingly hard to ignore. Quite frankly the f36 is a gorgeous compromise. The f30 is a dedicated BMW, as is the f32. I like that in the f30 and f32. They look very distinct to my eyes.
But again, I am in love with the f36. I just hate the fact that I won't be able to get one since BMW NA will not be bringing the 6MT option. |
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I think another big test for the f36 Gran Coupe will be how it drives. If it drives anything like the f32 it is modeled after, then this car will be a big hit, and IMO will cannibalize a lot of f30 sales. If it drives like an f34 GT, well then, ...
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Very true... hopefully the former, since it is based on the F32 The F34 is a much bigger car
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no, i'm not kidding..... I personally think the rear of the 4 resembles the rear if the GT.
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04-17-2014, 08:55 AM | #56 |
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The only thing left for BMW to make is a new 3-series coupe. Pretty soon BMW will have as many variations of 3/4 series cars as Ford does with their F-series line.
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04-17-2014, 01:48 PM | #57 |
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Too thin for what?
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Here comes the 4GC, which is equivalent to the 4 coupe mechanically and size-wise, yet somehow they have fit two rear doors on it and might even have improved the look at little over the 2-door in doing so. Also, I dig the hatch. Some do, others don't. I do. I've been driving 5 series for a while. This latest one I got last year is beautiful and impeccably engineered, but it's a little too big and not much fun. I'm looking for a change next time around, but I don't see myself in a 3 series. I just don't. So the 4GC is aimed right at me. I may represent a narrow market, but the way BMW is building cars these days, leveraging platform designs across models and reducing development costs, means that they can aim specific models at narrow markets and do so economically. What some of you are calling "dilution" I call BMW building cars that more people are going to find perfect for them. I don't see a downside. ... The 318ti, back in the E36 era...that was dilution. It was an underengineered, underpowered, crappy car that leveraged the Roundel for sales volume. The purpose of its existence was to move BMW downmarket, possibly at the expense of the brand cache, had they let it go on long enough. That is what dilution means.
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Also, Audi doesn't sell the A5 sportback in the US, so I couldn't buy one if I wanted to.
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04-17-2014, 02:33 PM | #61 |
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Those 12 albums were released over many years, not all at once.
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You may realize that and intended your post to be subtle and clever, in which case I applaud. I couldn't quite tell.
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I am beginning to get frustrated with the lack of understanding here. The model breakdown is clear if you stop and think about it. Sedan-based: more conventional, practical
Coupe-based: sleek shapes, sacrifice some practicality for some extra style
Is this really that difficult to comprehend, both in itself and as an overall philosophy BMW has chosen to adopt? We're talking even vs. odd numbers here, denoting relative magnitude... it's elementary and it makes perfect sense. Do you want a more traditional shape with more practicality, or a sleeker shape? How big do you want your car to be? Well alright, take your pick from this logical lineup. As a sidenote, it seems obvious that the 1-series will be re-born as the FWD small sedan-type car, to go up against the A3 and CLA, and slot right into the overarching strategy for BMW's lineup. I like how someone else put it - more models just means that there are less of each on the road, and as ubiquitous BMWs have become I think that's a good thing. |
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Very well put!
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Amazing response, absolutely enjoyed reading this! Well said!
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