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Can you send me your configuration for our 340i's for virtual dyno? I'd just to try it out on some of my logs.
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For interest I compared your 340i X v3 to one of my M140i MHD Stage 2 95_102 OTS E30 runs. Wouldn't be much in it between these 2 cars in a roll considering the weight difference.
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File>Options>Dyno settings File>Options>Columns and Profiles settings Make sure you have these exact column headings and only have 100% accelerator (TPS) rows in the CSV file
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Bmw 340i MHD stage2(98Ron map) & xHP stage3 100-200km/h 8.03sec Can you tell me please if log is good? Also according to log can "OzBMR" please tell me how many hp&nm i have? (RWD, R19) https://datazap.me/u/janea1207/bmw-3...og=0&data=5-24 |
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A few things look unusual if it's stock turbo:
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It is stock turbo with stock HPFP, yesterday received the V2.7 from MHD (all people said that it is faster than V3.0) and tried. it is faster than V3.0 with ~0.2sec. Thinking about my HPFP - what can be problem? I purchased already the TU pump but thinked that is no reason to install with stock turbo and OTS map. What do you think? Can be changing on TU pump with OTS map? |
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I'm still a bit shocked that you say it is the Stage 2 93 OTS map and stock turbo. That 100 - 200 time would reflect about 460 - 470 WHP for a 340i, which doesn't make sense. Can you do a couple more 4th gear runs starting from 2500 RPM and post the logs here? Make sure the road has no slope.
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Anyone on MHD with Big Boost kit/ Pure 800 and ran into this?
Gears 1-4 seem to be limited to 23-24PSI of boost, and then toward redline they tank down to 20PSI. Once I hit 5th gear it targets 25-27PSI like it's supposed to. Tuner has tried adding more WGDC and has done other things but the DME is refusing to go over this 23psi limit in any gear lower than 5th. https://datazap.me/u/richmichael97/w...&mark=86-58-43 This race against Jaime Esquivel's Big Boost Stage 4 340i (93oct @20PSI of Boost) vs my 340i (23PSI in 1-4th Gear, and 27PSI in 5th Gear+) really shows the problem, you can see he pulls hard, then soon as I hit 5th I start pulling back on him.
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The TMAP seems to be OK (combined temperature and pressure sensor in the charge pipe) TMAP sensor is part number 13-62-7-804-742 is combined pressure and IAT with a 4 bar/400 kPa/58 PSI There was some discussion here about this a while ago https://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...1&postcount=39 May need to upgrade MAP sensor? https://spareto.com/products/94886-s...ifold-pressure
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Also the one in the chargepipe from my understanding only measures pressure, then there's a seperate sensor for Charge Temps, the one in the manifold has one that reads pressure and temp. This whole thing is really weird and honestly annoying the hell out of me because we've been trying to figure it out for 2 days now.
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TMAP is actually on the intake manifold and part number 8637900 https://www.realoem.com/bmw/enUS/sho...51#13628637900 MAP on the charge pipe part number 8637896 (superseded 13627804742) https://www.realoem.com/bmw/enUS/sho...56#13628637896 In Peter's log Pure 800 on M140I using BM3 he looks to have a similar issue, although in that log the throttle was closing from 4200 RPM, but at 6718 RPM 24.7 PSI pre-throttle and 20.9 PSI at manifold. Have you discussed with Pure? https://datazap.me/u/ozbmr/m140i-pur...0?log=0&data=3 In your log as soon as you start to get divergence between MAP and TMAP you also start getting timing corrections. It makes sense to me that the DME, and you, would want to know what your boost pressure actually is at the inlet manifold.
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If you upgrade to a 3.5 bar TMAP you're tuner will also need to rescale the TMAP voltage table in the DME and also rescale all load related tables and axis.
What does Pure and MHD have to say?
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Steven at Wedge is waiting on a response from MHD, I need to contact Pure. So far anyone i've asked about it has no clue.
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Hi Kern, What happens more than 3 degrees timing pull? does it mean the engine starts to knock?
Also in BM3 logs you have knock detection but I can't find it in the MHD logs, there is knock delta but it's not exactly knock detection.
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I see a few people now installing Pure800, VTT B58 GC etc, also running Dorch Stage 2 HPFP with E50 etc and boost over 22 PSI on their BMW B58 engine cars. As the TMAP on the intake manifold is only 2.5 bar and can't read over 22.7 PSI, but the MAP sensor on the charge pipe is 3.5 bar, it seems there are problems with boost control and general tuning over the 22 PSI level. Is there a requirement to upgrade to a matching 3.5 bar TMAP sensor and if so, can the TMAP voltage tables and all load related tables in the DME be rescaled via a custom tune using MHD? Fabian's reply... We can adjust the tables for manifold TMAP sensor too but this sensor is not used on WOT. so normally not needed, or never had a problem with it on B58 Perhaps PureBoost are worth talking to for custom tuning on this platform with turbo upgrades? For me, I'd want to be able to datalog the boost at the manifold accurately.
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Just want to point out that neither the N54 or N55 had accurate reading in the manifold either. This isn't something new to the B58. The most likely cause for limited power/ boost is due to an undiscovered torque limiter. Why else would 5th gear not have a problem.
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To add onto what weehe said, Steven and I talked to Juan Castillo (Big Boost), and there is indeed a hidden limiter we have to work around. He sent Steven at Wedge the tables and he is now looking into them so we can start pushing my car. I'm sure Steven will share his findings with other MHD tuners as well as MHD so this wont be a problem in the future. EDIT: Speaking of, soon as I submitted this post I got an e-mail from Steven with a new revision. I'm on my way to my car now so I can test and get back to everyone.
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Also, the sensor names in the MHD logs appear to be incorrectly named. Wouldn't it be the TMAP that tops out at 4.69V for 22.7 PSI and the MAP that only gets up to 3.22V for 27.1 PSI?
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Doesn't look like it fixed the issue, not yet at least.
Log from now: https://datazap.me/u/richmichael97/w...56-57-58-59-60 Before: https://datazap.me/u/richmichael97/w...&mark=86-58-43
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