10-08-2019, 01:35 PM | #1 |
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1000 HP B58 with traditional intercooler assembly
It looks like Papadakis is almost complete with this build. I wish he will make a kit for our cars.
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10-08-2019, 10:42 PM | #3 |
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I just don't see 1,000 horsepower being fun or even remotely manageable in any RWD BMW chassis that weighs in the neighborhood of 3500 lbs.
But, props to this this guy. He's been in the business for years.
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10-09-2019, 06:11 AM | #4 |
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Put a proper tire on and they'll be fine. Remember Supra has similar to M4 fitment. People are running 295/305 rear tires. And you can always use boost by gear/torque reduction to improve traction in lower gears.
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10-09-2019, 06:13 AM | #5 |
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This isn't the B58 from the 3/4 Series (look at the exhaust manifold). It's a Supra B58 so I'd assume it's going back into a Supra.
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10-09-2019, 06:51 AM | #6 |
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It's all because of the history of the Supra and 2JZ otherwise he wouldn't have done it.
Would love to see this modification on the all wheel drive M340i. |
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10-09-2019, 06:56 AM | #7 |
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Stock Supra sub 400 hp already are spinning the wheels.
With any road legal tyres with 1000 hp this car will spin the wheels up to 4th gear. |
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There are videos of 700whp+ F80s on youtube doing just fine with roll racing. And again, they can limit torque in lower gears with BM3. Traction control, advanced boost control, and proper tires. This has been proven. If you guys are having that much trouble hooking then you're not taking advantage of what we have available. |
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10-09-2019, 08:43 AM | #10 | |
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Check this video and see what happens when you launch the 2 ton 625 HP M8 with RWD, jump to 2 minutes 15 seconds in the video.
Imagine what a 1.5 ton 1000 HP RWD car will do. Quote:
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10-09-2019, 09:54 AM | #11 | |
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Like I said. Tires, traction control, and a good tune. Done. |
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10-09-2019, 10:59 AM | #12 |
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Like any car with 1000bhp going to 2 wheels , slicks or not your going to get wheel spin. As said throttle mapping, TC and load other factors that you can factor in can make 1000bhp work....
This guy builds competition cars so its mostly going to spend its life at a track. But who cares............... The build was done to find the limits of the engine not what will work with road legal tyres |
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TC cuts power and throttle mapping reduce power so how can they make 1000 HP work ?
Anyway I agree the build is to find the limit of the engine and to see or prove if it can match the 2JZ. Quote:
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I actually got more traction when i upgraded the turbo on my previous car. Slower spool + controlled boost onset = more traction with the same top end, 2000rpm powerband to shift in. But I digress. |
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10-10-2019, 04:37 AM | #17 |
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Why all the fuss, I was just confirming to B58togo that 1000 HP can't be put to the ground with the RWD Supra with regular tyres on normal roads that's it.
Of course if we put a wide body and super wide drag tyres on the Supra on a well prepared drag strip it will stick. Though I doubt the standard ZF Gearbox/Differential/Drive shafts can handle 1000 HP. |
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Like I said, we must have different definitions of spinning and usability. Because I can hook 1st but others say they're already spinng with a stage 1 tune I even have 2.5* of camber in the rear and the car will get up and go with no flashing traction control light. But I also have smaller wheels with wider, quality summer tires and everything else that's at our disposal in 2019. I appreciate the tech and 9/10 you're faster with it. So if speed is your goal, you keep it on. And at that point it doesn't matter what your car does with everything off, stock all-seasons, etc. What's funny is how the progression is different in the A90 community. They don't have big turbo kits available yet, but companies already offer multiple drag packs. Literally peoples first mod is a set of welds and mickey thompsons. That's why stock tune/suspension supras are going low 12s. When people start really pushing 4 digit power in the B58, they'll switch to standalones. And those offer traction control sensors and tuning as well. It's important. |
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400 whp is like M3 stock power you shouldn't have traction issues on the track.
Launch control only activates after around 10 kms of driving. Quote:
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10-10-2019, 03:59 PM | #22 | |
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That's why I say we must have different definitions. Because I'm also running OTS stage 1 e30 with no torque reduction and putting the power down just fine. Honestly coming from fwd, my limit is not being able to hook 2nd gear. Spinning was fun but I'm currently addicted to the feel of no drama acceleration. If i start having trouble holding traction, trust me. I'd be honest and dial something back. But that's just not the case. |
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