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My F31 is in for a rear camera fault & just had a call from the dealer to be told they have noticed manipulated code in the car (Bimmercode coding) that is causing the fault in the camera (alignment issues) & that due to this my car is now blacklisted for electrical warranty claims unless I pay to have it factory reset.
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08-21-2020, 04:55 AM | #3 |
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Yeh intrested to hear how much they want for that?
Cars can take hours (and i mean like over night) to do a full flash! What all did you have coded and what was up with the camera alignment? |
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Will find out later on pick up.
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Mperformance logo on startup & tyre pressures/temps
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08-21-2020, 06:01 AM | #7 |
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WOW sorry to hear that mate, hope it gets sorted and not a kicking on the price for reset. They obviously know that coding is a big part of this community and just need a trigger to pounce on the owner. bad day at the office.
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It's when cars are in and linked to BMW main system the system has been enhanced to see any tampering at low level. Seems they are clamping down on everything.
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Same goes for the engine and drivetrain warranty if you flash a remap and then remove before dealer visit.
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So is this just coding, ie changing parameters for things like stop-start and Enhanced Bluetooth ?
Or is it tuning which is a different thing, ie remapping ? I've coded ASS to remember last setting and EBT - can't see how that would affect anything other than the coded components so the dealer seems to be being very draconian |
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I 100% get the issue with flashing new engine/transmission maps, but changing a setting that (by design) is there to be changed should not invalidate the warranty.
I assume you can pay a dealer to do some FDL coding. I accept they may not wish to code functions you didn't pay for, but something like stop/start defaults or shutting the ignition off when you open the door should be fine. |
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Will know the full extent of it all in depth when I collect it later this afternoon.
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I first posted about this a couple of months ago HERE
Same issue - almost didn't pay out for my mates car. Luckily, it wouldn't even talk to Germany when the chips were on the table, so they couldn't prove anything. I won't be coding anyone else's! |
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I agree as discussed here that this seems understandable and proportionate for non-BMW mods, such as a hike in power, but when switching on BMW-designed stuff like temperatures from the tyre sensors, this seems rather extreme. I have noticed in iDrive 7 that some of the stuff which previously had to be coded, such as rear lights always on with DRLs, mirrors fold on locking... is now available in the iDrive menu. Surely that is a sensible way forward - allow safe BMW-designed stuff to be done within the iDrive so coding isn't required. |
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Just got my car back.
Had a whole list of "black listed codes" was told the Mperformance startup screen is a early indicator of tampering but usually harmless and ignored but due to the fault and the pull down by BMW nothing could be done to help the outcome or situation I'm now in. A car that has no internal electrical systems covered in the warranty. Luckily BMW have approved a full reset (they do not always agree to this) that will clean sheet the car and I have been told this will take 1day+ but will include all of the latest software/firmware/enhancement flashes with all consumer allowed access in modules available. It's not the world of total pain I thought I would be in but I can just suppose luckily due to our families relationship with the dealer I did receive some discount on what it would be with it coming to £550 all in fully capped regardless of time to do. That's the BMW permission codes to reset & German labour to access and clean sheet with 2.5hrs labour for Dealer to go in and update all items & set the car up as required. It could be so much worse there was a customer today told that their nearly new M3 was totally blacklisted due to engine & gearbox mapping as well as a tampered coding. BMW have said no to clean sheeting & BMW warranty/finance have also withdrawn from the vehicle & customer. Lesson learnt & it will be going in next week for it to be done. Very clear warning here they are checking and nothing is untraceable, like mentioned early in the post/thread in a reply BMW have very much gone the way of VAG in terms of zero tolerance & blacklisting.
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Only thing my car has had is Bimmercode but apparently from what my service manager has been told they are logging into the factory systems any changes between logs (at service intervals they have the car or whenever it is in for recalls/warranty)
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makes sense if you think about it - they're moving to an all options fitted pay for what you want to use business model - therefore they need to make this watertight.
Obviously checking the date stamps to determine the restore of the previous versions. |
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Exactly the take of the service manager who openly said its huge and this is not a one of case by a long stretch
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Its just not worth it while in warranty anymore. I want to remap our 230 Tiguan as it goes to 300bhp+ but its only just a year old, no chance I will do it while still within the 3 years.
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