[TF3090]

So which one is better with an additional $2k in parts?

[BuefordTjustice]

I came from a B8 S4 6MT. I gotta say, the S4 interior felt more special. I was going to get another b8.5 s4 but didn't because i'm not a fan of the dual clutch trans. Very clunky in stop and go traffic. My 435 has a great motor/trans but I gotta say, it's boring compared to the S4. I have a much more disconnected driver experience in the BMW compared to the Audi.

[misterjim]

Originally Posted by BuefordTjustice

I came from a B8 S4 6MT. I gotta say, the S4 interior felt more special. I was going to get another b8.5 s4 but didn't because i'm not a fan of the dual clutch trans. Very clunky in stop and go traffic. My 435 has a great motor/trans but I gotta say, it's boring compared to the S4. I have a much more disconnected driver experience in the BMW compared to the Audi.

That's the way I felt when comparing the 335 (even in rear wheel drive form) with the S4. The S4 was more "visceral". I am hoping the 340 bridges that gap.

I also liked the interior better on the S4 but I like BMW exterior styling better (in M sport guise).

[misterjim]

Originally Posted by xlover

I had a B8 S4 with auto/dct and followed that with an n55 f30 6 speed and I always thought I got the tranny choice backwards.
Yes the s4 has a bit more power but the more linear supercharged engine fit the 6 speed manual much better than the single turbo 335 where the auto's much faster shifting and more gears do a better job keeping the turbo on the boil.

That's interesting. I am a die hard manual transmission guy but I also thought the auto was better matched to the n55 in the 335 than the manual tranny. The manual felt slower, almost a little sluggish to me, and I was trying to figure out why (yes I know the 0-60 times are faster for the auto but this was just in general). On the other hand, with the 6 speed in the S4, the car felt a bit faster and "immediate". The b58/340 may take care of this. In any case, I'd still only buy a manual in either car!

[skw]

Originally Posted by goj

The b58 has slightly more torque than the S4 and any hp difference cannot be felt.

Engine is smoother and incredibly efficient. Power kit bumps it to 355 hp and 369lb ft which would smoke a B8.5.

The b58 pulls to the redline holding peak 320 hp from 5500-6500rpm. It's one hell of an engine. The n55 was really good but the b58 in something else

355hp is on paper. 340's w/ the MPPSK are consistently putting down ~368hp at the wheels.

[goj]

Originally Posted by skw

355hp is on paper. 340's w/ the MPPSK are consistently putting down ~368hp at the wheels.

I understand. But I'm referring to stated values by bmw. Because Audis are underrated too