Squeal/whine when pulling away...

TomJ79 · 01-06-2016, 08:13 AM

Not sure if I can explain this properly but here goes...

I get an odd whine/squealing sound (Assumed it was brake squeal) when I first pull away from standstill. The noise then goes away pretty much straight after and doesn't happen again until next time I get in and it does it again, after start up and pulling away.

Thought this was the brakes but have since wondered if it's the gearbox (it's an auto) as it doesn't do it at any other time. Also it's not under braking it's when first pulling away.

Has anyone else experienced anything similar?

Rukka · 01-06-2016, 08:13 AM

Have you got M Sport Brakes?

TomJ79 · 01-06-2016, 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Rukka

Have you got M Sport Brakes?

Yep...

Rukka · 01-06-2016, 08:18 AM

and is it Auto by any chance?

EDIT: Sorry, just re-read your post....

It's probably the brakes releasing (and slight drag)

My M235i was a bugger for it (in the few months I had it)

Will get better as the roads dry out as they seem to make more noise when wet.

Rukka

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TomJ79 · 01-06-2016, 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Rukka

and is it Auto by any chance?

Yep...

Rukka · 01-06-2016, 08:21 AM

You might find it also does it just before you come to a standstill - try opening the window and listening.

Chances are it's the brakes mate and nothing to worry about.

Rukka

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NISFAN · 01-06-2016, 08:23 AM

Mine squeals sometimes too.....but then I noticed you have xDrive so it isn't the same issue

Rukka · 01-06-2016, 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by NISFAN

Mine squeals sometimes too.....but then I noticed you have xDrive so it isn't the same issue

Elaborate please????? LSD?

NISFAN · 01-06-2016, 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Rukka

Elaborate please????? LSD?

No, I think it is something to do with the rear tyres going faster than the car

But adding to the thread in a more positive way, I would imagine it is the brake pads seizing onto the discs, which seems to happen quite a bit on these cars with M Sport brakes. Some mornings I get a hard jolt as the brake discs un seize themselves from the pads. Worse in winter when they get soggy and rusty.

k44ENT · 01-06-2016, 08:45 AM

It's the handbrake, try pulling it up gently when moving at slow speed, same noise? If you apply the hand brake then release it as you move off the rear brakes sometimes squeal for a few seconds until the hand brake is fully released. The hand brake shoes work on the inside of the disc hub and acts like a mini drum brake. It is not the pads on the disc you can hear but the shoes on the inside of the disc hub.

Rukka · 01-06-2016, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by NISFAN

No, I think it is something to do with the rear tyres going faster than the car

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TomJ79 · 01-06-2016, 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by k44ENT

It's the handbrake, try pulling it up gently when moving at slow speed, same noise? If you apply the hand brake then release it as you move off the rear brakes sometimes squeal for a few seconds until the hand brake is fully released. The hand brake shoes work on the inside of the disc hub and acts like a mini drum brake. It is not the pads on the disc you can hear but the shoes on the inside of the disc hub.

Will give that a try but makes perfect sense. Every day's a school day!

GAAEcuador · 07-03-2019, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by TomJ79

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Originally Posted by k44ENT

It's the handbrake, try pulling it up gently when moving at slow speed, same noise? If you apply the hand brake then release it as you move off the rear brakes sometimes squeal for a few seconds until the hand brake is fully released. The hand brake shoes work on the inside of the disc hub and acts like a mini drum brake. It is not the pads on the disc you can hear but the shoes on the inside of the disc hub.

Will give that a try but makes perfect sense. Every day's a school day!

Can you please tell me if you fixed it finally? I have the same noise when pulling away. I have an f30 2018 and the noise came up at 14.000km and i now have 24.000km on the clock...

Somebloke · 07-04-2019, 09:44 AM

Mine does this. It's not an m-sport. I asked the dealer to take a look when it went in for
a service but they couldn't duplicate the noise. I might just gently pull up the handbrake next time I hear the squeal.

RoShambolt · 07-04-2019, 06:10 PM

Manual actually recommends gently applying some handbrake when pulling away every so often, says it's to reduce corrosion build up and asymmetrical braking.

What k44ENT is saying supports this too.

Oh and holy thread revival!! 2016

scoss · 02-07-2021, 05:05 AM

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Originally Posted by k44ENT

It's the handbrake, try pulling it up gently when moving at slow speed, same noise? If you apply the hand brake then release it as you move off the rear brakes sometimes squeal for a few seconds until the hand brake is fully released. The hand brake shoes work on the inside of the disc hub and acts like a mini drum brake. It is not the pads on the disc you can hear but the shoes on the inside of the disc hub.

Is there a fix for this? Or is this just a thing which is arises in the winter months?

speedski · 02-07-2021, 05:59 AM

Its the handbrake.

Don't put your foot on the brake, take hand brake off, put foot on brake, put in drive. Move off.

If you put it in drive with your foot on the brake and take the handbrake off it will squeal.

Fez_7 · 02-07-2021, 06:12 AM

I have the same issue after changing all discs and pads a few months ago. The thing is mine is a manual and non M Sport so I don't even press the brake pedal at all when starting up or setting off. It sounds like it comes from the NSF more than anything.

scoss · 02-07-2021, 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by speedski

Its the handbrake.

Don't put your foot on the brake, take hand brake off, put foot on brake, put in drive. Move off.

If you put it in drive with your foot on the brake and take the handbrake off it will squeal.

Ok I’ll try this. Any reason why this comes and goes? This doesn’t happy all the time.

I always, put foot in break, handbrake off, stick it in D.

I assume the issue arises when you’ve got the break applied before you’ve released the handbrake?

MY340i · 02-07-2021, 07:19 AM

This drove me insane on my 335d. Changed the brake discs and pads all round at bmw but noise was still there. Ended up trading it into webuyanycar as it was driving me crazy.

Some time later I found out it was the handbrake shoe....

HighlandPete · 02-07-2021, 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by scoss

Ok I’ll try this. Any reason why this comes and goes? This doesn’t happy all the time.

I always, put foot in break, handbrake off, stick it in D.

I assume the issue arises when you’ve got the break applied before you’ve released the handbrake?

It's typically due to a bit of corrosion within the handbrake drum/shoes. Can vary with amount of wet weather/use.

If light use of the handbrake (while in motion) doesn't reduce or stop it, you really need to take the brake assemblies apart. Clean the inner drum faces and brake shoes, grease the shoe contact points and reset the adjustments.

scoss · 02-07-2021, 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Barsj111

This drove me insane on my 335d. Changed the brake discs and pads all round at bmw but noise was still there. Ended up trading it into webuyanycar as it was driving me crazy.

Some time later I found out it was the handbrake shoe....

I assume the shoe can be replaced?

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Rukka Brigadier General 2647 Rep 3,664 Posts Drives: M4 Comp Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Cheshire (UK) iTrader: (0)	and is it Auto by any chance? EDIT: Sorry, just re-read your post.... It's probably the brakes releasing (and slight drag) My M235i was a bugger for it (in the few months I had it) Will get better as the roads dry out as they seem to make more noise when wet. Rukka . __________________ Current: M4 G82 Past: C43, X4 M40i, TTS, M4 CP, 440i, 435d, M235i, 220d, F30, E90, E87
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Rukka Brigadier General 2647 Rep 3,664 Posts Drives: M4 Comp Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Cheshire (UK) iTrader: (0)	You might find it also does it just before you come to a standstill - try opening the window and listening. Chances are it's the brakes mate and nothing to worry about. Rukka . __________________ Current: M4 G82 Past: C43, X4 M40i, TTS, M4 CP, 440i, 435d, M235i, 220d, F30, E90, E87
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NISFAN Major General 3489 Rep 9,709 Posts Drives: BMW M2 Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Bedford UK iTrader: (0)	Mine squeals sometimes too.....but then I noticed you have xDrive so it isn't the same issue
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k44ENT Lieutenant Colonel 492 Rep 1,503 Posts Drives: M2 LCI DCT Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: UK iTrader: (2)	It's the handbrake, try pulling it up gently when moving at slow speed, same noise? If you apply the hand brake then release it as you move off the rear brakes sometimes squeal for a few seconds until the hand brake is fully released. The hand brake shoes work on the inside of the disc hub and acts like a mini drum brake. It is not the pads on the disc you can hear but the shoes on the inside of the disc hub. Last edited by k44ENT; 01-06-2016 at 09:25 AM..
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Somebloke Second Lieutenant 127 Rep 276 Posts Drives: BMW Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: UK iTrader: (0)	Mine does this. It's not an m-sport. I asked the dealer to take a look when it went in for a service but they couldn't duplicate the noise. I might just gently pull up the handbrake next time I hear the squeal.
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RoShambolt Captain 351 Rep 725 Posts Drives: Looking Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: Beds iTrader: (0)	Manual actually recommends gently applying some handbrake when pulling away every so often, says it's to reduce corrosion build up and asymmetrical braking. What k44ENT is saying supports this too. Oh and holy thread revival!! 2016
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speedski Major 547 Rep 1,066 Posts Drives: Former F40/F36/E81/E85 Owner Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: United Kingdom iTrader: (0)	Its the handbrake. Don't put your foot on the brake, take hand brake off, put foot on brake, put in drive. Move off. If you put it in drive with your foot on the brake and take the handbrake off it will squeal.
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Fez_7 Second Lieutenant 67 Rep 223 Posts Drives: BMW F30 Join Date: Feb 2020 Location: West Yorkshire iTrader: (0)	I have the same issue after changing all discs and pads a few months ago. The thing is mine is a manual and non M Sport so I don't even press the brake pedal at all when starting up or setting off. It sounds like it comes from the NSF more than anything. __________________ BMW F30 320D EfficientDynamics Stage 1 remap, EGR delete, 398 alloys, tinted windows, M Sport front bumper, M Performance grilles, M Performance spoiler, gloss black mirrors, tail light tints, debadged.
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MY340i Major 721 Rep 1,443 Posts Drives: Various Join Date: Feb 2020 Location: London iTrader: (0)	This drove me insane on my 335d. Changed the brake discs and pads all round at bmw but noise was still there. Ended up trading it into webuyanycar as it was driving me crazy. Some time later I found out it was the handbrake shoe....
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