[isleaiw1]

The Honda thing might actually be as a result of the EU Japan trade deal... don’t need to build them in Europe if you can import them for free.

You see, all the f’in EUs fault

[TodmordenLad]

Looks like Japanese business is losing faith in the UK: Sony, Panasonic, Nissan, Honda
Honda has been investing in the UK for decades so today's announcement is sad indeed
Brexit is of course a factor in their decision making, as with the others, and any Brexiteers who fail to recognise this are in denial, pure and simple

[TodmordenLad]

Originally Posted by isleaiw1

The Honda thing might actually be as a result of the EU Japan trade deal... don't need to build them in Europe if you can import them for free.

You see, all the f'in EUs fault

Yep, certainly a factor but it's still a lot more expensive to ship cars from Japan to Europe than it is to ship them from the U.K.
More likely consolidation of manufacturing as a result of global downturn, with the U.K. being a far less attractive production base once out of the EU

[Tengocity]

Originally Posted by TodmordenLad

Yep, certainly a factor but it's still a lot more expensive to ship cars from Japan to Europe than it is to ship them from the U.K.
More likely consolidation of manufacturing as a result of global downturn, with the U.K. being a far less attractive production base once out of the EU

It might be cheaper to ship them, but if you can ship from Japan tariff free, but not sure whether you'll have to pay a tariff shipping from the UK then that's a lot bigger issue than a shipping fee.

[Tengocity]

Originally Posted by TodmordenLad

Looks like Japanese business is losing faith in the UK: Sony, Panasonic, Nissan, Honda
Honda has been investing in the UK for decades so today's announcement is sad indeed
Brexit is of course a factor in their decision making, as with the others, and any Brexiteers who fail to recognise this are in denial, pure and simple

Let's face it, the Japanese were here because it made business sense, not because they loved us plucky Brits.... doesn't make business sense anymore, so they're off... who can blame them?

[TodmordenLad]

Originally Posted by Tengocity

It might be cheaper to ship them, but if you can ship from Japan tariff free, but not sure whether you'll have to pay a tariff shipping from the UK then that's a lot bigger issue than a shipping fee.

Yep of course, cheaper to ship from Japan + not pay a tariff, i would have thought

[TodmordenLad]

Originally Posted by Tengocity

Let's face it, the Japanese were here because it made business sense, not because they loved us plucky Brits.... doesn't make business sense anymore, so they're off... who can blame them?

Indeed, wouldn't argue with that

[Goneinsixtyseconds]

Originally Posted by TodmordenLad

Yep, certainly a factor but it's still a lot more expensive to ship cars from Japan to Europe than it is to ship them from the U.K.
More likely consolidation of manufacturing as a result of global downturn, with the U.K. being a far less attractive production base once out of the EU

Probably not a great deal in it. The cost of shipping from Japan might be prettty good, if the ports are near production and they end up in bigger more economic transports.

Swindon isn't exactly the ideal location for shipping to Spain for example. Whatever it is, the difference will be low 3 figures, and not enough to make up for tariffs and production savings.

[TodmordenLad]

Not sure we need a day of reckoning as Nesrine Malik puts it as I'd rather we were spared the pain. An insightful article nonetheless

https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...britain-brexit

[Bryans69]

It just keeps getting better.

https://www.businessinsider.com/brex...l-chaos-2019-2

[TodmordenLad]

Yeh, I saw this. What can you say?

[ShavingChimps]

Originally Posted by Goneinsixtyseconds

Probably not a great deal in it. The cost of shipping from Japan might be prettty good, if the ports are near production and they end up in bigger more economic transports.

Swindon isn't exactly the ideal location for shipping to Spain for example. Whatever it is, the difference will be low 3 figures, and not enough to make up for tariffs and production savings.

You miss one extremely significant factor. Now that Japan have a nil tariffs trade deal with the EU, the extremely patriotic Japanese will repatriate assets home. The commercial advantage has gone for being eu based.Toyota at Derby will be next.

[Goneinsixtyseconds]

Originally Posted by ShavingChimps

You miss one extremely significant factor. Now that Japan have a nil tariffs trade deal with the EU, the extremely patriotic Japanese will repatriate assets home. The commercial advantage has gone for being eu based.Toyota at Derby will be next.

Have you read any of the thread, no one has missed that.

[Broncho]

Originally Posted by ShavingChimps

You miss one extremely significant factor. Now that Japan have a nil tariffs trade deal with the EU, the extremely patriotic Japanese will repatriate assets home. The commercial advantage has gone for being eu based.Toyota at Derby will be next.

LobB.

[R0B]

Originally Posted by Broncho

LobB.

I did think the tone was familiar.

[ShavingChimps]

Originally Posted by Goneinsixtyseconds

Have you read any of the thread, no one has missed that.

My apologies. That'll teach me to read the whole thread.

[Wills2]

Originally Posted by R0B

I did think the tone was familiar.

I sounded the Lobb alarm on another thread.

Still RS6 is a step up from his old M135i

[Soul_Glo]

Travel after Brexit. Interesting read:

https://www.which.co.uk/news/2019/02...ving-licenses/

[TodmordenLad]

Can someone please explain to me how Grayling is still in office??!!

Government pays Eurotunnel £33m over Brexit ferry case
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-47414699

[mikeoz]

Originally Posted by TodmordenLad

Can someone please explain to me how Grayling is still in office??!!

Government pays Eurotunnel £33m over Brexit ferry case
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-47414699

Thats just one the of Failings just recently. Other one is not Brexit related but his botched management of the Prison service and Privatisation of Probation resulting increased numbers returning to Prison.

33M is cheap for Grayling the probation cock up has cost half a Billion more than budgeted for..
https://www.ukauthority.com/articles...ices-failures/

[mikeoz]

I honestly think that Chris Graying is Theresa Mays version of Saddams Comical Ali....they roll him out to say everything is OK to the Press when things are going bad with Brexit etc....

[TodmordenLad]

Originally Posted by mikeoz

I honestly think that Chris Graying is Theresa Mays version of Saddams Comical Ali....they roll him out to say everything is OK to the Press when things are going bad with Brexit etc....

"The Prime Minister has every confidence in the Minister for Transport ... blah .. blah", says TM, whose nose is growing longer by the day