[Colmsport]

Haven’t dipped into the forum for a few days & surprised that there’s been no talk about the young lady who wishes to return from Syria...

My view is that she should stay where she is, tough shite & all that. She made a choice, shows no regret & then her / her family expect the tax payer to pick up the pieces when it all goes tits up.

I’m sure that the snowflakes will win here eventually & we’ll end up with yet another drain on society by housing her / benefits & the resource in keeping an eye on her in case she decides to mix with the wrong sort etc.

What does everyone else think??

[Broncho]

I think Cardiff City should book her the flight back.

[RickLS7]

There's a petition going already:

https://petition.parliament.uk/petit...E77Ll-vIyQe_DA

Unless she's got dual nationality, they cant stop her coming back - unfortunately.

[Wills2]

She shouldn't be allowed back, why would we want her walking amongst us.

She should be dealt with out there for her crimes.

[C320]

Originally Posted by Colmsport

Haven’t dipped into the forum for a few days & surprised that there’s been no talk about the young lady who wishes to return from Syria...

My view is that she should stay where she is, tough shite & all that. She made a choice, shows no regret & then her / her family expect the tax payer to pick up the pieces when it all goes tits up.

I’m sure that the snowflakes will win here eventually & we’ll end up with yet another drain on society by housing her / benefits & the resource in keeping an eye on her in case she decides to mix with the wrong sort etc.

What does everyone else think??

I’m sure most people have the same view that those who left to join ISIS shouldn’t be allowed back. However, the law is clear in that British citizenship can only be removed if it does not render the individual stateless. If she’s not a national of another country then they are unable to strip her citizenship.

So in the case where any of those that left were dual nationals they could absolutely lose their citizenship and be refused entry. There have been some cases were British citizenship has been removed from people convicted of a crime (quite rightly), this also applied to a couple of members of the Rofhdale (I think) grooming gang.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/12/23/paedophile-stripped-british-citizenship-facing-deportation-india/amp/

[Cherry2.0]

You join ISIS, you deserve a bullet to the face.

[Watsey]

Although I find it abhorrent that she willingly left the UK to join a brutal terrorist organisation and now wants to return, my understanding is also that the law is clear : the UK cannot strip her of her nationality and she is therefore entitled to come home.

I don't know what legal provisions exist, but if her return can't be blocked I'd rather see her immediately incarcerated and her child (when born) placed into care, adopted, etc, than to allow her a life of freedom.

I was surprised to hear that, apparently, >450 people have already returned to the UK over past years after leaving to join terrorist groups. Nothing, that I've heard of, seems to have happened to them.

Unfortunately or fortunately, spending on how you look at individual cases we can't just make up the rules ad-hoc. She'd need to be tried for her crimes, as the law defines them.

This topic was raised on Question Time this week. Jacob Rees Mogg, loathed by many for his toff outlook, made the strong case that this is more about child abuse given that she was radicalised and left the UK at the age of 15, immediately married in Syria, made pregnant twice (lost both foetuses), and should therefore be treated/rehabilitated accordingly.

Personally I disagree - there's a huge difference between a misdemeanour and joining a terrorist organisation. She should be severely punished IMO.

[Jeff123]

If she comes back she needs to be dealt with under UK law. As she was a minor when she departed and is about to give birth, she will probably be dealt with leniently.

[TodmordenLad]

Originally Posted by Jeff123

If she comes back she needs to be dealt with under UK law. As she was a minor when she departed and is about to give birth, she will probably be dealt with leniently.

I sincerely hope not, the f***ing c**t

[1 AKY]

Without commenting on where I stand (as I'm still gathering my thoughts on this one), how would your response/reaction differ if at prima facie, this pertained to Tracy who went to school with you and now wanted to return from Cork? She'd originally eloped during the 70's with Patrick (a serving member of the IRA) who had since died.

[davyk31]

If Tracy had gone to Derry then she never left the UK so there is no issue???

[TodmordenLad]

I appreciate that my above comment is pretty unsophisticated. In my defence, I made the mistake of listening to too many hand-wringing liberals on Any Answers on R4 today presenting Shamima Begum's case as an innocent victim in need of our help and support.
I suspect that she knows just what she is doing now, even if she didn't four years ago.
The Home Sec's reaction seems pretty unequivocal: "My message is clear, If you have supported terrorist organisations abroad I will not hesitate to prevent your return.", adding that if she did come home, she could be prosecuted.

[hilift]

Petition signed , !!!

[SW6Steve]

Someone is accountable for her actions!
Herself first, then her family!
Allowing her (or any of the other dirty fuckers!) back is an insult to every decent person in this country.
She and her offspring would stab you in the back, and laugh whilst you bled to death!
I for one don't want to pay a penny towards her or her offsprings pathetic self centred life!

[1 AKY]

Originally Posted by davyk31

If Tracy had gone to Derry then she never left the UK so there is no issue???

I stand corrected and have amended my post accordingly.

[JustChris]

She can go and scrounge a house, benefits and food for all her little darlings over in lovely Syria.

[Ajs_435d]

As above legally she can come back but she is a threat to national security and a terrorist so should be treated appropriately so. What a country we live in, how did we get to the this state

There should be no attempt at a rescue or funding to collect.

Hopefully they'll bomb that part she resides in and save us a lot of hassle and money.

[Soul_Glo]

Actually the law is more complex than you think. Her nationality can be stripped under the Terrorism Act. They wouldn't allow Snoop Dogg into the UK why should she be allowed?!

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...uropean-ruling

[R0B]

Originally Posted by JustChris

She can go and scrounge a house, benefits and food for all her little darlings over in lovely Syria.

We really are an embarrassing nation. That cunt Anjem Choudhury has has years of honest citizens paying for his house, yet he's never been accidentally run over in an unsolvable hit and run by the SAS?

[C320]

Originally Posted by Chelsea_Tractor

Actually the law is more complex than you think. Her nationality can be stripped under the Terrorism Act. They wouldn't allow Snoop Dogg into the UK why should she be allowed?!

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...uropean-ruling

It’s been stated above in this thread numerous times that her nationality can be stripped however this power can only be used if doing so won’t leave you “stateless”.

So it can only be used on dual nationals or those with a claim to another nationality (e.g. being born abroad or having parents / gran-parents born abroad). It’s far easier to use this power where someone was born abroad and was naturalised as a British citizen.

That article you linked to stated that at least 33 people had been stripped of their British nationality on terrorism-related grounds since Theresa May was home secretary in 2010. All of those had been dual nationals.

[Consett Mag]

I heard her interview on the radio and was a bit shocked at how damaged she is.

She seems to have adopted a philosophy of wanting non-believers dead. That's us and our loved ones.

How can she reside in Britain when she's clearly a terrorist threat. I'm sure she'll nurture her child, if this one survives, in exactly the same beliefs.

British maybe, but absolutely no use to our country or society. I'd choose to block her return, despite being brainwashed at 15.

[Soul_Glo]

Originally Posted by C320

It's been stated above in this thread numerous times that her nationality can be stripped however this power can only be used if doing so won't leave you "stateless".

So it can only be used on dual nationals or those with a claim to another nationality (e.g. being born abroad or having parents / gran-parents born abroad). It's far easier to use this power where someone was born abroad and was naturalised as a British citizen.

That article you linked to stated that at least 33 people had been stripped of their British nationality on terrorism-related grounds since Theresa May was home secretary in 2010. All of those had been dual nationals.

Bastardo!
There should be a clause to leave them abroad where they are i.e. syria in this case