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      08-03-2020, 04:44 PM   #1
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Would a used 2015 320i xDrive be reliable?

Hello everyone,

My Infiniti Q50 lease is ending soon and I'm considering buying a car. I'm looking for something AWD, economical on gas (30+ mpg), less than four years old, and reasonably priced (maybe $18k max).

I've been eyeing subarus, small SUVs and crossovers, and a 2015 320i xDrive. However I'm a bit worried by the cost of BMW upkeep. I've leased a BMW before, and any service was fully covered. I did replace brakes and tires and the price was on the high side but not insane. Would buying a 2015 320i xDrive be a reasonable financial decision? I'm looking for something economical but fun to drive (automatic trans). Or are there better choices?
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Just FYI my ideal car would be an AWD Tesla Model 3, but those start at $45K used.

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You might consider looking at a new 330xdrive or even leasing the m340i for high 500's/month. Fun car, nicely appointed, powerful. Warranty included, no maintenance.
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On your Q50 lease you are mostly paying for depreciation which runs hundreds of dollars per month. On the 4 year old car you will be buying the car that is also depreciating but likely at a much lower rate than the new Q50. A better financial decision is likely the 4 year old Accord but I think a worse long term decision would be a new BMW lease. As for "reasonable financial decision" you should have money set aside for repairs but impossible for someone here to take the information you gave and say you can or can't afford it. If you don't have money available for repairs you should buy a less expensive (more sensible) option.

People will likely post their positive and negative experiences but not enough information for you to know what is likely to happen.

Comparing buying slightly used to leases you won't come out ahead financially in the long term on leases. They come with almost zero uncertainties (repairs aren't your problem) but guaranteed high depreciation costs.

I will likely buy a 2-4 yr. old BMW as my next daily (at my current mileage rate could be 5 years from now) and take my chances.
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It depends upon your perspective. Expensive luxury cars have lots of stuff to go wrong; econoboxes have very little to go wrong. So...yes...buying a used BMW may involve expensive repairs. I just saw a JD Powers initial problemrating and only Lexus and Infiniti did better than BMW and they were only very slightly better. Mercedes, Audi and other luxury marks did much worse.

so...compared to a simple car, yes it can be that bad; compared to its competitors, it doesn't look so bad.
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If you are to buy used, an extended warranty would seem to be a must
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      08-03-2020, 06:27 PM   #6
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How long do you plan on keeping the car? Also, no offense to 320i owners, but the car is gutless and the F30 isn't the most fun BMW in the world, I would honestly look at some other cars as well for that price.
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      08-03-2020, 06:28 PM   #7
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Out of warranty, they can be are a lot more expensive to maintain than a Japanese car..

New BMWs cars in warranty are pretty much put gas in it and drive as all schedule maintenance is free during the warranty period unlike many Japanese makes where you still have to pay for oil changes..

If buying used out of warranty, just do your homework on the model you are interested in to see if it is reliable or not. Keep in mind, parts for a 328 don't cost any less than parts for an M3.
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+1 on this.. Do your homework. Keep an eye out on that M-Tax

$170 for a pair of 328 front rotors (OEM)
https://www.ecstuning.com/b-genuine-...34116854998kt/

$550 for a pair of M3 rotors (OEM)
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If buying used out of warranty, just do your homework on the model you are interested in to see if it is reliable or not. Keep in mind, parts for a 328 don't cost any less than parts for an M3.
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Keep in mind, parts for a 328 don't cost any less than parts for an M3.
Is that a joke? So many parts for a M3 is more expensive. And all maintenance expenses too like brakes, oil, fuel, spark plugs, etc. Take off differentials for a 328i are $200 delivered on eBay and M3 diffs are $1000. Used M3 steering racks are double the price of 328i racks. M3 hood struts are like $70 and 328i ones are $20. M3 control arms are like $200 more for a set:

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These cars don’t even use the same windshield wipers lol
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The current model X3 (G01 platform) and the prior model seem reliable. Similar year 3 series are likely similar. You are familiar with the 3 series so that is something to build upon.

Oil, brakes, engine air filter and cabin air filter can be done DIY or at an Indy shop.
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For the most part they are just like any other marque but they are performance vehicles and do cost a bit more.

The key would be to buy as low of a mileage vehicle as possible and make sure it's looked after by the PO

Remember one thing:

"You either pay upfront for a nice car or you pay later for not such a nice car and there's no way around it"
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Hello everyone,

My Infiniti Q50 lease is ending soon and I'm considering buying a car. I'm looking for something AWD, economical on gas (30+ mpg), less than four years old, and reasonably priced (maybe $18k max).

I've been eyeing subarus, small SUVs and crossovers, and 2015 320i xDrive? However I'm a bit worried by the cost of BMW upkeep. I've leased a BMW before, and any service was fully covered. I did replace brakes and tires and the price was on the high side but not insane. Would buying a 2015 320i xDrive be a reasonable financial decision? I'm looking for something economical but fun to drive (automatic trans). Or are there better choices?

Just FYI my ideal car would be an AWD Tesla Model 3, but those start at $45K used.
DO NOT buy pre lci F30 320ix!

consider lci 330 or 328d
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Reliable? Mostly.
Cheap to Maintain? Not to bad, but they will be in the high end.
Fun to drive? Yes.
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I don't get the not cheap to maintain issues.

oil and filter change, less than $50 (every 7.5k miles)
rear brakes (pads, rotors, sensor) ran me above $200. (at 48k miles)
front brakes (pads, rotors, sensor) was just under $200. (at 65k miles)

engine air and cabin air filters are cheap and easy to do yearly.
I just replaced my 3 year old wipers and it cost me $24.

spark plugs were $12 each. brake fluid was $11. these were also done at 65k miles.
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I also came from the q50, I highly don't recommend getting a 320i it's like driving a Mazda. Either get the 330i or the 340i with the 6 cylinder turbo
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Not worth it, the F30 320 is one of the worst BMWs ever made. It's not fun to drive, and the unfortunate reliability record of BMW is icing on the cake.

Since you're coming from the Q50, maybe the Lexus IS would be a good option. Reliable, cheap to maintain, and more fun to drive than the F30.
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One more thing, the quality of the used car depends on the previous owner.
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I don't get the not cheap to maintain issues.

oil and filter change, less than $50 (every 7.5k miles)
rear brakes (pads, rotors, sensor) ran me above $200. (at 48k miles)
front brakes (pads, rotors, sensor) was just under $200. (at 65k miles)

engine air and cabin air filters are cheap and easy to do yearly.
I just replaced my 3 year old wipers and it cost me $24.

spark plugs were $12 each. brake fluid was $11. these were also done at 65k miles.
He is looking for an reasonably economical car and your DIY maintenance (that most don't want to do or can't do) is only one cost of owning a used car.

The title of his post is "Are used BMW's reliable?" and none of the above has to do with reliability.
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Just FYI my ideal car would be an AWD Tesla Model 3, but those start at $45K used.
This. Work towards buying your Tesla. Find something dirt cheap to tide you over while you save up more funds. A $20K used car is still experiencing depreciation and will only further delay your ultimate goal.
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This. Work towards buying your Tesla. Find something dirt cheap to tide you over while you save up more funds. A $20K used car is still experiencing depreciation and will only further delay your ultimate goal.
Totally agreed. If it's slightly out of reach, do what you need to get there. If it's way out of reach... well same advice! I wouldn't do a BMW on the way there.
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