F30POST
F30POST
2012-2015 BMW 3-Series and 4-Series Forum
BMW Garage BMW Meets Register Today's Posts
BMW 3-Series and 4-Series Forum (F30 / F32) | F30POST > Technical Forums > N47 and N57 Turbodiesel Engine / Drivetrain / Exhaust Modifications > Do Not Buy A Bmw Diesel Automobile Without Understanding This
ARMA SPEED
Post Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      12-14-2021, 08:23 AM   #45
gryffishhawk571
New Member
United_States
2
Rep
16
Posts

Drives: BMW 328d
Join Date: Dec 2021
Location: US

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by catskillclimber View Post
Take a look at your O2 sensors. I changed both and cleared up a rough idle.
Thanks, appreciate hearing that!!--will discuss with BMW next time I'm in
Appreciate 0
      12-14-2021, 08:25 AM   #46
gryffishhawk571
New Member
United_States
2
Rep
16
Posts

Drives: BMW 328d
Join Date: Dec 2021
Location: US

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Uber Commuter View Post
Wow - blast from the past lol

No, Optilube won't harm your car - I've used it for more than 400,000 miles in both VW TDIs and my 328D.

Unless Optilube has majorly changed their line-up, summer is going to be lubricity enhancing only; but definitely won't hurt and should smooth the idle a bit. Just don't overload the car; in this case "more is not better"...
Thanks! Hoping there's also some cetane enhancement as well. Planning to slowly transition/try some of this soon. Appreciate the feedback and history.
Appreciate 0
      12-14-2021, 08:59 AM   #47
Enabled
Lieutenant Colonel
1410
Rep
1,803
Posts

Drives: 328xd Wagon, M2 Competition
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: Houston

iTrader: (0)

I've been using Hot Shot Secret EDT for about two years now. It seems good; it's often very hard to prove that these do what they say since there are so many variables in a non controlled world. But it's great that there are options.
__________________
-2014 328d Wagon, 8HP. Self-tuned, 270hp/430ft-lbs.
-2019 M2 Competition MT, Alpine White. Self-tuned 560hp
-2016 Mini Cooper S, MT. Many plans.
Others:
-E36 328is. 2000 Z3 Roady. 2003 VW Jetta TDI Manual. Estoril Z3M Coupe.
Appreciate 0
      12-14-2021, 01:31 PM   #48
andreigbs
Dr Drei
United_States
71
Rep
245
Posts

Drives: X3d
Join Date: Jan 2020
Location: WI

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
'16 X3d  [0.00]
+1 on Hot Shot. I like their stuff and use it regularly.

I also like Amsoil's all-in-one diesel treat.

Going to order OptiLube and try it out.
__________________
GLK 250 // 126xxx miles // 36 MPG // Mobil1 ESP 5w30
Appreciate 0
      12-14-2021, 01:48 PM   #49
Uber Commuter
Lieutenant
Uber Commuter's Avatar
722
Rep
474
Posts

Drives: 2014 328D xDrive
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: Maryland

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
Quote:
Originally Posted by gryffishhawk571 View Post
Thanks! Hoping there's also some cetane enhancement as well. Planning to slowly transition/try some of this soon. Appreciate the feedback and history.
There is - seems Optilube updated their Summer product so it is now lubricity + Cetane.
Appreciate 1
      12-14-2021, 09:05 PM   #50
Onizukachan
Great Teacher
Onizukachan's Avatar
1088
Rep
1,305
Posts

Drives: 06 e91 325ix
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: El Paso

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2006 E91 325ix  [10.00]
2006 Mini r53 JCW  [0.00]
2005 Mini r53  [0.00]
Another vote for optilube xd. It’s only ~3oz per tankful so what I did was buy a couple of the 8 packs of 4 oz bottles on Amazon, and once I started refilling them, buy the much bigger bottles.

Keep one in a ziplock (cause stinks like diesel) in the hatch always so I always have one to hand when it is fill up time, the rest on a shelf in the garage rest for the next monthly fill up or road trip.

Figured a little extra lubricity and cetane never hurt anything.

Texas does also have higher min cetane rating. Pretty sure all the fuel in town comes from the local refinery, so I just use a single station near my house I see lots of trucks filling up at, amd that has proper diesel nozzles… ie less risk.
__________________
‘06 e91 manual 325ix BarriqueRot
over Terra (one of 1), Nav, Sport, L7

A few OEM+ mods:
MTech front bumper, MSport wheel & handbrake, 4AD trim, full rear shades, more to come…

Last edited by Onizukachan; 12-14-2021 at 09:13 PM..
Appreciate 1
      12-15-2021, 12:14 AM   #51
FaRKle!
Brigadier General
4016
Rep
3,540
Posts

Drives: 328d Wagon, M2 Comp, i4 eD35
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Bay Area, CA

iTrader: (4)

Garage List
Quote:
Originally Posted by Onizukachan View Post
so what I did was buy a couple of the 8 packs of 4 oz bottles on Amazon, and once I started refilling them, buy the much bigger bottles.
I do the same, except I bought some twin-neck Bettix bottles. Those are measure and pour bottles, but refillable.
__________________
-328d Wagon Build Log (with helpful reference links)
-My YouTube Channel for some of the best DIYs and in depth information

Please don't PM me for suspension recommendations unless interested in paid private consultations.
Appreciate 1
      12-15-2021, 12:51 AM   #52
capt_slow
Captain
capt_slow's Avatar
United_States
556
Rep
906
Posts

Drives: 2017 F31 328d
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: SoCal

iTrader: (1)

Garage List
Quote:
Originally Posted by Uber Commuter View Post
There is - seems Optilube updated their Summer product so it is now lubricity + Cetane.
I dont think they updated any of their marketing materials with the new formula's HFRR score. I would hope it would narrow the gap to be much closer to XPD's 250 score. Those of us in warmer climates dont need the winter properties of XPD, but prefer it for the better lubricity.
__________________
2017 328d xDrive Sports Wagon: Estoril Blue, Black Sensatec, M-Sport Pkg
2020 i3 Rex: Capparis White, Giga World
Appreciate 1
      12-16-2021, 11:53 PM   #53
King Bowser
New Member
King Bowser's Avatar
2
Rep
5
Posts

Drives: 2016 328d, 2018 2SS 1LE
Join Date: Dec 2021
Location: Florida

iTrader: (0)

Interesting read, just picked up a 328d and will definitely be ordering some Opti-lube Summer for the car. Im used to e85 and 93 and only use Shell for my Mustang and Camaro. Is BP the standard for Diesel or is Shell okay too.
Appreciate 0
      12-23-2021, 11:31 AM   #54
andreigbs
Dr Drei
United_States
71
Rep
245
Posts

Drives: X3d
Join Date: Jan 2020
Location: WI

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
'16 X3d  [0.00]
Quote:
Originally Posted by King Bowser View Post
Interesting read, just picked up a 328d and will definitely be ordering some Opti-lube Summer for the car. Im used to e85 and 93 and only use Shell for my Mustang and Camaro. Is BP the standard for Diesel or is Shell okay too.
Congrats on the 328d, you'll love it.

IMO, both branded diesels are fine, as is Mobil's. Just be aware that not all Shell or BP stations offer Shell or BP branded diesel. Look at the pump itself for this confirmation.

As a general rule, stay away from fuel stations that don't seem to have a lot of diesel traffic. With the extended driving range a diesel offers, there's no need to ever be "low on fuel in the middle of nowhere" and get some $hitty fuel with water in it. I prefer to get my fuel from busy truck stops where I know they always have fresh fuel.

Oh, and I always use a fuel additive.
__________________
GLK 250 // 126xxx miles // 36 MPG // Mobil1 ESP 5w30
Appreciate 0
      02-13-2023, 01:35 PM   #55
triax37
First Lieutenant
130
Rep
315
Posts

Drives: 2017 F31, 2014 F15, 2002 M3
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Denver, CO

iTrader: (1)

Quote:
Originally Posted by floydarogers View Post
Trucks and pickup trucks and cars all use the same diesel. Even farm tractors and locomotives use the same diesel as cars. The only places that have "better" diesel in the USA are in those states following CARB rules; and that really only affects attributes that affect it's Cetane. The major problem, as mentioned, is the scar (lubricity) qualities.

Bumping an...older...thread. Most diesel fuel additives (rough estimated cost of $0.20/gallon) claim to improve lubricity. Is it accurate to conclude that the additives (Optilube, Powerstroke, etc.) would lower that lubricity rating, from 520 to...

Thanks!
Appreciate 0
      02-13-2023, 04:15 PM   #56
bmwPower99
Private First Class
19
Rep
148
Posts

Drives: bmw f25 X3 35d
Join Date: Jan 2021
Location: uk

iTrader: (0)

Been adding 300ml (per 60litres of fuel ) of low ash 2 stroke mineral oil to my 35d for 5 years niw. Car idles,sounds and performs better. IMO This should be a must in the states where the diesel is rubbish and is responsible for HPFP failures, the 2 stroke lubricates everything and stops this issue. The other big benefit is that the diesel burns more completely with much less black particles which should in turn reduce carbon buildup. This video shows how good it is compared to some of the more expensive products
Appreciate 0
      02-14-2023, 09:55 AM   #57
Eddamoo
Captain
391
Rep
810
Posts

Drives: BMW 430dX
Join Date: Apr 2018
Location: Sheffield, England

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by bmwPower99 View Post
Been adding 300ml (per 60litres of fuel ) of low ash 2 stroke mineral oil to my 35d for 5 years niw. Car idles,sounds and performs better. IMO This should be a must in the states where the diesel is rubbish and is responsible for HPFP failures, the 2 stroke lubricates everything and stops this issue. The other big benefit is that the diesel burns more completely with much less black particles which should in turn reduce carbon buildup. This video shows how good it is compared to some of the more expensive products
Im sorry but that video proves absolutely nothing apart from the authors lack of understanding of combustion.

The fuel that is smoking the most is also burning the fastest. Incomplete combustion through lack of oxygen produces black smoke, so its only logical that a more volatile fuel will smoke more - it needs more oxygen to burn cleanly.

A cetane booster is designed to burn fast as it helps the diesel ignite - it reduces ignition lag.

The main risk of using heavier oils in diesels is injector fouling. I once read that they can clog injectors pretty badly so have always stayed away.
Appreciate 0
      02-14-2023, 03:46 PM   #58
bmwPower99
Private First Class
19
Rep
148
Posts

Drives: bmw f25 X3 35d
Join Date: Jan 2021
Location: uk

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Eddamoo View Post
Im sorry but that video proves absolutely nothing apart from the authors lack of understanding of combustion.

The fuel that is smoking the most is also burning the fastest. Incomplete combustion through lack of oxygen produces black smoke, so its only logical that a more volatile fuel will smoke more - it needs more oxygen to burn cleanly.

A cetane booster is designed to burn fast as it helps the diesel ignite - it reduces ignition lag.

The main risk of using heavier oils in diesels is injector fouling. I once read that they can clog injectors pretty badly so have always stayed away.
A study found that 2so with zinc can cause issues with injectors. A low ash mineral 2so will not have zinc. The reduction of sulphur in diesel has greatly reduced lubricity of Diesel the 2so helps with that.
Appreciate 0
Post Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:03 PM.




f30post
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST