[JaredG_F30]

Has anyone run the Cool Carbon S/T Plus pads for street and occasional track day use? They are on sale on Turner Motorsports website.

http://www.coolcarbonperformance.com...ionsBPlus.html

https://www.turnermotorsport.com/m-8...82018_25368_RM

Flash Sale - Up to 20% OFF Cool Carbon Brake Pads
Sale Ends 11.14.18 at 11:59 PM (EST)

Cool Carbon S/T Plus Compound has the GG rating and higher friction level than the original S/T pads. Developed to fill the gap between entry-level performance and competition pads, these brake pads offer better stopping power and torque without sacrificing street drivability.

The S/T Plus Compound features a new formulation with Twaron aramid content in the composite, providing greater thermal stability and better durability than comparable pads. This compound was developed in a dedicated manufacturing facility using a proprietary process of unique curing and triple scorching for a shorter bedding time.
With a better bite and greater linear stability, these longer-lived pads offer lower noise and brake dust over other high-performance alternatives and are designed to perform even with street tires.

With stability in temperatures exceeding 600C, Cool Carbon S/T Plus Compound pads are perfect for canyon carving, spirited driving, or light to medium track use! Use these front pads with original S/T rear pads for the optimal balance.

Street Performance/Track Tuned (S/T) pads from Cool Carbon feature a substantially higher friction level over the OE pads. Better stopping power and torque with stability in cold or hot temperatures exceeding 450C is easy thanks to the special “hollow” ceramic structure of the pads, which exponentially increases the ability to dispel heat.

Minimal noise under normal driving conditions come from the constrained layer noise shims featured with these pads, and the better feel under your brake pedal means more feedback and control during standard or spirited driving, giving you the sure-footed confidence required to enjoy your performance car. With long life, excellent fade resistance, and a low dust level, Cool Carbon S/T pads are fantastic for your European performance car.

[1QuikWS6]

I previously used Akebono Ceramic pads on my E92 for low dusting properties - they were excellent

Went to buy them for my F32 with 5k miles on the OEM pads/rotors (Brembo frt/Bosch rear calipers) & they do not make the full set for my application, so I went with the CoolCarbons - installed new rotors at same time as I wanted crossdrilled/slotted

IMO they suck

No initial bite at all, had to apply much more force to get the car stop & braking distance increased - none of these were issues with my OEM pads

Then, on top of that they started making a noise upon light application on one side only and a loud groaning noise when applying brakes in reverse. There was never a noise with the OEM pads.

Checked the hardware/pad lubrication, it was good but cleaned & re-lubed anyway - no change in noise

Finally got disgusted & changed out my entire braking system to M4 blue Brembos all round with yet another set of new crossdrilled/slotted rotors (as the rotor size changed to 370mm/345mm) & went with the Porterfield R4-S pads that I had heard so many good things about


Braking with the Porterfield pads (Kevlar Ceramic) is more in line with the OEM pad feel as far as initial bite (friction level up to .41), braking distance impressive with minimal amount of pedal effort, & most importantly - NO NOISE + they have lower dusting than the OEM pads


The Porterfield pads are way more $$ than CoolCarbons - but it was $$ well spent. I wouldn't' put the CC pads on a bicycle...

[JaredG_F30]

Phew...dodged a bullet there. Thanks for the review!!

[Eschmacher]

Same here, I am not pleased with my cool carbon pads... Requires way more pedal pressure for some reason, and they dust as bad as stock.

[1QuikWS6]

Originally Posted by JaredG_F30

Phew...dodged a bullet there. Thanks for the review!!

Yup, that was my impression - I'm sure they'll be others chime in that state they love em'

All a matter of opinion

[Musashi]

Originally Posted by 1QuikWS6

I previously used Akebono Ceramic pads on my E92 for low dusting properties - they were excellent

Went to buy them for my F32 with 5k miles on the OEM pads/rotors (Brembo frt/Bosch rear calipers) & they do not make the full set for my application, so I went with the CoolCarbons - installed new rotors at same time as I wanted crossdrilled/slotted

IMO they suck

No initial bite at all, had to apply much more force to get the car stop & braking distance increased - none of these were issues with my OEM pads

Then, on top of that they started making a noise upon light application on one side only and a loud groaning noise when applying brakes in reverse. There was never a noise with the OEM pads.

Checked the hardware/pad lubrication, it was good but cleaned & re-lubed anyway - no change in noise

Finally got disgusted & changed out my entire braking system to M4 blue Brembos all round with yet another set of new crossdrilled/slotted rotors (as the rotor size changed to 370mm/345mm) & went with the Porterfield R4-S pads that I had heard so many good things about


Braking with the Porterfield pads (Kevlar Ceramic) is more in line with the OEM pad feel as far as initial bite (friction level up to .41), braking distance impressive with minimal amount of pedal effort, & most importantly - NO NOISE + they have lower dusting than the OEM pads


The Porterfield pads are way more $$ than CoolCarbons - but it was $$ well spent. I wouldn't' put the CC pads on a bicycle...

super nice observations. where did you get the Porterfield pads and pd you know if fitting M Performance callipers? have been testing for months now a custom designed 3d strand woven carbon ceramic rotor set and after superlative results with pagid rs i now need to check the ceramic ceramic.

[Eschmacher]

Another cool carbon user here, pretty disappointed in them as well.

[cfm56d7b]

For daily driving, the initial bite is quite important and Cool Carbon brake pads provide less initial bite than OEM brake pads due to the compound being used.

In addition, Cool Carbon brake pads require a specific bedding process.

http://www.coolcarbonperformance.com/bedding.html

For example, if ABS is activated during bedding "this may result in a non-uniform transfer of friction material to the rotor surface and a reduction in braking smoothness. The rotor surface may require attention if this occurs".

The above is quite common with Cool Carbon brake pads.

My perspective on ideal brake pads for daily driving: great initial bite with no noise and dust being the inadvertent result of a softer compound.

[1QuikWS6]

Originally Posted by Musashi

super nice observations. where did you get the Porterfield pads and pd you know if fitting M Performance callipers? have been testing for months now a custom designed 3d strand woven carbon ceramic rotor set and after superlative results with pagid rs i now need to check the ceramic ceramic.

https://www.porterfield-brakes.com/P...field%20Brakes

Yes, they make them for M Perf Calipers. I have the 4-piston Brembo fronts/2 piston Brembo Rears with 370/345 rotors

The Porterfield are NOT ceramic pads though...

[Z K]

Not a fan of Cool Carbon. I ran them on my M3. On track, they overheated quickly and melted into chunks that coated the rotors and wheels. On the street, it is as others have said, less bite than stock and some noise.

It's just not a good pad for street or track use... the only good thing I can say is that it does handle heat a little better than stock pads but not nearly enough to get you through a track day.

[Watsey]

FWIW, you might want to consider Pagid pads.

I'm running Pagid RS4-2 in the fronts (Stoptech Trophy BBK; 380mm dia; 6 piston calipers) and Pagid Yellow RSL1 in the rears (stock OEM; single piston floating calipers; Stoptech slotted discs) and they are proving to be superb for road use and also on track. I spent a day on track at Spa (Belgium) recently, which has some big braking zones, and they didn't fade at all.

There is some squeal at low speeds and with light braking, and they generate at least as much dust as OEM, but these are not big issues for me. They bite well from cold, the braking performance is excellent, and they seem very disc-friendly. Quite expensive though.