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      09-12-2014, 02:53 PM   #111
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All numbers given for dinan tronics are based on the difference in measured stock to what our tune did on our test vehicle. We provide a graph showing exactly what we measured for both stock and with tune on each product page. The hp and torque rating given earlier in the thread is a real number not derived by including the under rated factory rating but the delta we measured from stock to tune.

Not sure why we got away from these graphs the last generation of cars but I am glad that we are back to providing this data like we did in the distant past.
Well, let's be honest here...the charts posted aren't the actual "graph showing exactly what we measured for both stock and with tune." You guys dyno the car on a DynaPack, add an arbitrary percentage you feel appropriate to make up for drivetrain loss to estimate crank HP, plug the numbers into Excel and have it spit out a chart. Actual dyno charts would be nice, but of course that doesn't speak to your demographic.

According to a Dinan rep, the M235i with the D-Tronics made 315 RWHP on Dinan's dyno, up from their 295 RWHP it did stock. A 20 RWHP gain is exactly what we've seen on the dyno as well from the 2-Series forum. That's not to say that the crank HP figures reported are wrong, but it's easy to paint a different picture depending on how you report results.
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      09-12-2014, 03:19 PM   #112
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Do they have this... But for x28i series? Would love to look more into this for my 328i
Answered earlier in the thread. After m3/m4 the x28 (4 cylinder) will be the next applications out. They are targeted as an October release but that is just the target date. A lot can happen good or bad in that amount of time to push the release forward or backward.
If/when this becomes available I would be very interested in it should similar gains be achieved! Wondering how this relates to the BMW warranty and if it voids it or not. I like not paying for oil changes.

Most importantly though... Is there a Dinan anywhere in Houston, TX?
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      09-12-2014, 04:39 PM   #113
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360hp & 392tq @ cranck or wheels?
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Do they have this... But for x28i series? Would love to look more into this for my 328i
Answered earlier in the thread. After m3/m4 the x28 (4 cylinder) will be the next applications out. They are targeted as an October release but that is just the target date. A lot can happen good or bad in that amount of time to push the release forward or backward.
If/when this becomes available I would be very interested in it should similar gains be achieved! Wondering how this relates to the BMW warranty and if it voids it or not. I like not paying for oil changes.

Most importantly though... Is there a Dinan anywhere in Houston, TX?
Momentum BMW is a dealer. Dinan provides you with a warranty that matches a stock one for any items that are related to your upgrades. The rest of your warranty is still covered by BMW. It's makes it a lot easier if your BMW dealer is also the Dinan rep. You will not loose your free oil changes. My Dinan S1 M5 is getting it's free oil change as I type.
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360hp & 392tq @ cranck or wheels?
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      09-12-2014, 10:09 PM   #116
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Still nothing for the X3 35i???
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You had me until you said you have to go to a Dinan dealership to get installed. It's a shame you can't purchase the tune and self install, then the user have a Dinan account where they could plug in the module and load and activate the software to the VIN. I'm sure Dinan does this so someone can't transfer to another car. I had Dinan on my 08 335 and was a pain to drive 5 hours to get it re flashed.
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You had me until you said you have to go to a Dinan dealership to get installed. It's a shame you can't purchase the tune and self install, then the user have a Dinan account where they could plug in the module and load and activate the software to the VIN. I'm sure Dinan does this so someone can't transfer to another car. I had Dinan on my 08 335 and was a pain to drive 5 hours to get it re flashed.
You can self install.
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You had me until you said you have to go to a Dinan dealership to get installed. It's a shame you can't purchase the tune and self install, then the user have a Dinan account where they could plug in the module and load and activate the software to the VIN. I'm sure Dinan does this so someone can't transfer to another car. I had Dinan on my 08 335 and was a pain to drive 5 hours to get it re flashed.
You can self install.
Not according to their info page:

"Plug-and-Play installation in two hours or less at any of the 180+ Dinan® Dealers. While firmware is loaded directly on the ECU the model specific software will need to be downloaded into the ECU by an authorized Dinan dealer after installation. Log on to www.dinancars.com to find your nearest dealer or contact Dinan to make an appointment."
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. Or you could install it yourself if you are feeling up to it. We supply detailed instructions on how to install the unit/harness so as long as you are comfortable with doing that, that is also a solution. Installation mostly requires simple hand tools but you will also need to have the ability to clear codes during one phase of installation in order for the unit to run correctly. Please feel free to call one of our sales reps for any further information if this is something you wish to pursue.
Self-install.
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      09-13-2014, 12:47 AM   #121
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Do they have this... But for x28i series? Would love to look more into this for my 328i
Answered earlier in the thread. After m3/m4 the x28 (4 cylinder) will be the next applications out. They are targeted as an October release but that is just the target date. A lot can happen good or bad in that amount of time to push the release forward or backward.
If/when this becomes available I would be very interested in it should similar gains be achieved! Wondering how this relates to the BMW warranty and if it voids it or not. I like not paying for oil changes.

Most importantly though... Is there a Dinan anywhere in Houston, TX?
See spinny's response above for the warranty aspect.

Houston dealers include bmw of Houston north, momentum bmw, and momentum bmw west. I am pretty sure there is an independent non-dealership as well but I can't think of a name off hand. You can easily get a listing on our website though.
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You had me until you said you have to go to a Dinan dealership to get installed. It's a shame you can't purchase the tune and self install, then the user have a Dinan account where they could plug in the module and load and activate the software to the VIN. I'm sure Dinan does this so someone can't transfer to another car. I had Dinan on my 08 335 and was a pain to drive 5 hours to get it re flashed.
See above for previous response. You can self install. We would prefer you go through a dealer just in case something goes wrong but we realize that's not always a realistic option.
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      09-13-2014, 12:54 AM   #123
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Still nothing for the X3 35i???
Already been answered previously. Get enough people requesting the thing and make it evident it's a viable product and it will become one.

I did share this sudden outpouring of requests for that vehicle and it appears that it is now on the radar and being looked at. No idea when a solution may come out but it appears the response caught an ear.
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      09-13-2014, 02:04 AM   #124
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I just ordered stage 1 for my F30. Probably have it installed next week when the piece gets in.

Agreed it is pricey, here is some rationale unless you're out of warranty. Car is 8 months old. No other tuner offers that and to me that's a huge point because IF something goes wrong it damn going to cost me more than the difference between a JBL and a Dinan. Additionally its completely tuned for BMW and doesn't over reach the power. If Dinan wasn't going to offer the warranty I'd never tune my car. Piece of mind that if &**# hits the fan, I won't be out of pocket. You pay that just for extended warranty from BMW post factory. This isn't like flashing your phone. I replace that like I do my underwear.
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      09-13-2014, 05:17 AM   #125
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Speaking of warranty. At least here in Canada, the dealer makes you sign a document where you give up the option to buy extended warranty past 4y/50k mls. from BMW.

This particular issue doesn't give a lot of confidence past the regular warranty period.
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We are working on it. Slowly but surely. We have had a 328i that we have been working on and off again for awhile. Just so happens we keep loaning it out as a loaner vehicle while we work on development on the bigger cars (8 and 6 cylinder). Luckily we are nearing the end on quite a bit of development on the aforementioned vehicles so the N20 should become more of a priority. The end goal, and we are well on pace to accomplish it, is to have a tune for nearly all the BMW product line (minus diesel) before years end.
Anything like that for a 2011 e92 335xi?
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hey dinan! thanks for having a presence in the forums

i have MPPK and MPE on an otherwise stock 2014 F30 335i. i'm happy to drop it off for testing (i'm over in the east bay, union city) if you need one. pending development of an MPPK-friendly tune, i'll be salivating at the idea
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IF you have a sort of Stage 2 for MPPK folks (if you're able to stack).....when you mention that intake and exhaust might be needed....they wouldn't have to be Dinan products, would they? I have a Borla full catback and an AFE Magnum intake on order....I hope those would do the job. I sure hope you guys figure a way to stack as that will certainly open up Dinantronics sales to more people.
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You need to make sure that your 2015 model has the oil cooler, please refer to the below post. I guess BMW start using something like an oil/water heat exchanger on the oil filter housing, instead of oil cooler on newly made 2014+ X3 35i.

The above 2 pics are older(11-13?) X3 35i, the bottom one is the 2014 model, you can clearly see the difference.

At least my 2012 has the separate oil cooler behind the passenger side intake.




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I hadn't been in the market for one, but I would now purchase a Dinan tune for my 2015 X3 xDrive35i- if you'd make one (and I don't think I'm alone).
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We are working on it. Slowly but surely. We have had a 328i that we have been working on and off again for awhile. Just so happens we keep loaning it out as a loaner vehicle while we work on development on the bigger cars (8 and 6 cylinder). Luckily we are nearing the end on quite a bit of development on the aforementioned vehicles so the N20 should become more of a priority. The end goal, and we are well on pace to accomplish it, is to have a tune for nearly all the BMW product line (minus diesel) before years end.
Anything like that for a 2011 e92 335xi?
I believe all development on all e9x vehicles has ceased. There may be some 'racing' type items in the pipeline, in the same vein as larger turbos or stroker motors but the typical upgrades for that generation I beLieve are all completed.
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hey dinan! thanks for having a presence in the forums

i have MPPK and MPE on an otherwise stock 2014 F30 335i. i'm happy to drop it off for testing (i'm over in the east bay, union city) if you need one. pending development of an MPPK-friendly tune, i'll be salivating at the idea
We own our own 335i with MPPK but thank you for the offer. 😊
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IF you have a sort of Stage 2 for MPPK folks (if you're able to stack).....when you mention that intake and exhaust might be needed....they wouldn't have to be Dinan products, would they? I have a Borla full catback and an AFE Magnum intake on order....I hope those would do the job. I sure hope you guys figure a way to stack as that will certainly open up Dinantronics sales to more people.
Stage 2 and beyond always recommend or require additional hardware. While we obviously recommend our own stuff this is mainly because we have tested it that way. Another manufacturer's part may not provide the same result or perhaps yield some unintended byproduct. Given, this may not be very likely but we just don't know since if was not tested.

Bottom line is you certainly can have other branded performance mods to go with the higher stages but we just can't guarantee the results will be the same as what may have been claimed.
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